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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Well i hope that the MB specs will bump up accordingly for then : )When the MB goes down in price the MBA is dead.
Skylake-M that's going into the MB next year (my prediction) is powerful enough to handle the tasks that MBA users do
even games or low tasks in terms of 3D rendering?Skylake-M that's going into the MB next year (my prediction) is powerful enough to handle the tasks that MBA users do
I think air still has its advantage, it's thinner and lighter than the rMBP and more powerful than the rMB.
I'd like to see it got a major change in the next time rather than kills it.
I'd like to see it got a major change in the next time rather than kills it.
For the next rMBP15, one thing that I'm worried about its they comes too late, like in the mid-2016 or Q2, where Skylake it's about to comes to an end and Kaby Lake it's around the corner.
That would not be a good idea
That would not be a good idea
If they get close enough to each other they will just delay Kaby Lake
Kaby Lake mobile chips with GT3 or GT4 aren't scheduled to be available until 2017, so even if Skylake Iris Pro isn't ready until Q2 2016, there's still going to be a sizable gap between them.
Even for other laptops?
I've heard Intel are going to release Kaby Lake next year September.
Apple uses higher end integrated GPUs (GT3 or GT4) in its laptops; those are the ones that aren't going to be released until 2017. A Windows PC laptop that uses a lower end iGPU (often with an additional discrete GPU) can be released earlier, as is happening right now with the plethora of Skylake PC laptops with GT2 that are already on sale.
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http://wccftech.com/intels-10nm-can...ies-q3-2016-kaby-lakes-desktop-chips-1h-2017/
That's what I'm worried about, if Kaby lake for Windows released at Q3 2016, it's definitely going to be faster than the Skylake, regardless the iGPU.
Faster? It depends on what tasks you're talking about. My guess is that for the vast majority of Apple's customers, a Skylake with GT4e will be a far better real world performance choice than a comparable Kaby Lake with GT2.
In any case, if you're just looking to get the absolute fastest, most powerful laptop on the market, Apple has never been the right choice.
Not necessarily looking for the fastest laptop as the technology grows rapidly. I'm just thinking a release on Q2 (mid-2016)won't keep the advantage for too long. Since I don't play too many games, I only saw GPU as the 2nd or 3rd concern.
Maybe it's not a huge issues since Mac has a different operating system.
Speaking about the fastest...
I really think once they all got the same processor, it's same story for processing power..
Unless it's gaming laptops, where huge differences in GPU.
I really think once they all got the same processor, it's same story for processing power..
Unless it's gaming laptops, where huge differences in GPU.
By that logic, why have the iPad Air?
If you look at the iPad line, the performance increases with the screen size. More importantly, it's not just a case of a faster processor, it's a different processor in each screen size. I don't think a 14-inch model with a Core m3 is going to be desirable. I think it will use the Core i5 but use the better performing ULV Core i5 (and optional ULV Core i7). It will also have better graphics, too. Conversely, it could be a pro with 14-inch screen and the beefier Core i5. Butttt...the majority of people buying the 14-inch screen size would much rather the svelte portability of the Air over the chunkier Pro. I would hazard that a lot of 13-inch MacBook Pro buyers are getting it because they want the retina screen.
Most people in the thread are waiting for a redesign I believe. With the architectural changes, it makes sense for the redesign to come with Skylake (We hope). Kaby Lake will probably perform slightly better, but in all honesty will probably not make a huge difference in real world use. We're also talking about a product that will be close to a full year away from the Skylake release, and that's assuming there are no delays.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/23/9784604/dell-ssl-security-problem-xps-inspiron-edellroot
Y'all remember when people were talking about how great the Dell XPS was?
Y'all remember when people were talking about how great the Dell XPS was?
It looks like this may end up the longest Apple has ever taken to update the rMBP. If the rumor about Spring release is true, that's over 360 days. The longest so far was 280 for the October 2013 revision.
Regardless of whether or not we as consumers want the MBA to continue, I think the writing on the wall points to the fact that Apple doesn't want it to.
Evidence:
1. Apple has opted not to give the MBA a retina screen even after 4 years on the markets of the rMBP.
2. Apple came out with what would have been an obvious successor to the MBA portability mantle, and one with a retina screen at that; instead of calling it an MBA, it called it a MB.
Even the most ardent MBA fan would acknowledge these facts aren't good prognostic indicators for its future. When the MBA was first introduced, its defining characteristic was its lineup-leading portability. As its price dropped, it became its portability and its low cost. With the MB out, its main distinguishing feature in 2015 is now just price. The MB is more portable and the MBP is more powerful.
I expect Apple means to eventually simplify its lineup to a 12" MB with Core M, 13/14" MBP with dual core U, and 15/16" MBP with quad core HQ. The MBA may be given marginal spec bumps or put into update limbo until the MB price drops to $1099 or so (which could be as soon as 2016); once that happens, I think it gets discontinued. And you're right, most people prefer the more svelte MBA form factor to the 13" MBP's slightly larger chassis, but if there's only one thing for sure we know about the next rMBP redesign, it's going to be lighter and thinner. At that point, any difference between a 13" MBA and 13" rMBP may be virtually nonexistent and largely semantics.
Regardless the software, I've teardowned two Dell laptops before, and it was awful experiences. Both were complicated and have a heater problem(automatically shut down after a period of time, dust won't comes out)
I've never seen something that inside was so unique like MacBooks, especially the new MacBook.
I'd like to see these in the next release.
-thinner and lighter (obviously)
-odds to evens (12" 14" 16". Actually 16" will fits better in my current 17" computer bag, I'd like to see that)
-USB-C (and MagSafe can still be there)
-A gold one
I don't really worried about PPI, since current one were sharp enough to me.
also maybe they will think about how to make the glowing Apple light on the back looks matched the golden case.
-thinner and lighter (obviously)
-odds to evens (12" 14" 16". Actually 16" will fits better in my current 17" computer bag, I'd like to see that)
-USB-C (and MagSafe can still be there)
-A gold one
I don't really worried about PPI, since current one were sharp enough to me.
also maybe they will think about how to make the glowing Apple light on the back looks matched the golden case.
This would make no sense, they've always had two sizes of portable, powerful laptop...and rightfully so. MBA is going to die, at least as it is now. Remember how insanely expensive the "MBA" was when it came out? It was the same thing the MacBook is now. Soon enough, the MacBook will be the go-to cheap model, and the Pro will be the bigger, more powerful version. And that's it. I still think there will eventually be 12" and 14" MacBook along with 14" and 16" MacBook Pro.
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