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Apple...laws,but never mind.Two day until the iPhone event.Since the iphone will come in mat black and piano black,who thinks the macbooks will come in a mat black in Oct?

I would be very interested in seeing a matt black macbook as I am liking my iPadpro in all black [with the cover & keyboard]. And yes the iPad pro speakers are fantastic !
As an aside, for the first time in a long while I really am not that bothered about the new phones - my focus is on the macs, as the 6S is doing fine.
 
since the acquisition of beats, they working for all their products to enhance the speakers...they started with the Macbook, ipad pros,be sure they will continue with the new macbook pros 13 and 15, and continue with the imac and even iphone should get something better
 
Different times. :D Seriously though, the school system and industry is so integrated into computers that not having a personal laptop as a student would be a huge inconvenience. I'm still working on my Civil degree. Here's my fluids professor:
http://www.cpp.edu/~engineering/ME/faculty/zhao.shtml

She's pretty much fresh out of school, although my Geotech professor, Donald Coduto, literally "wrote the book" on Geotechnical engineering. :p
What do you do for math? hard taking notes on a computer for certain classes. I would of failed all my calculus classes with trying to keep up taking notes on a computer.
 
What do you do for math? hard taking notes on a computer for certain classes. I would of failed all my calculus classes with trying to keep up taking notes on a computer.

Use a Microsoft Surface Pro 4 or 3 and Microsoft Onenote to take notes with formulas and drawings. If you need a larger Screen the SurfaceBook or the Lenvo X1 Yoga is adequate. You can try the Apple ipad pro but for this purpose are much better solutions out there.
 
You're trolling, right?
no, when i was student i always lost,damaged my papers and notebooks in max 1 year or the ink moves away because of the humidity...but what notes i have in my ipad are there forever.Now for my firm i always use autocad for projects
 
pen and paper will be obsolete in 1 year...the paper can be washed out or ripped off...but what you are doing on the ipad is stuck until you need into the cloud

no, when i was student i always lost,damaged my papers and notebooks in max 1 year or the ink moves away because of the humidity...but what notes i have in my ipad are there forever.Now for my firm i always use autocad for projects

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thank you, finally some fun again after months of boredom.


(btw the way you write and your nick remind me of someone... I could be wrong though)
 
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pen and paper will be obsolete in 1 year...the paper can be washed out or ripped off...but what you are doing on the ipad is stuck until you need into the cloud

no, when i was student i always lost,damaged my papers and notebooks in max 1 year or the ink moves away because of the humidity...but what notes i have in my ipad are there forever.Now for my firm i always use autocad for projects

Well then I advise you to look outside of your personal self for once instead of making broad statements based purely on your own experiences.

You can say: Pen and papers are obsolete [for me, because of my inability to handle them correctly].

It's probably a troll any way, and I'll resort to Poe's law in this case.
 
Agreed. Progress for the sake of progress (or change for the sake of change, if you will) is to be discouraged. My biggest problem with the lack of new MBP isn't lack of "innovation" either. I don't even want it to be any thinner; I thought it was fine the way it was. If they can make it thinner without sacrificing power or cooling, go for it, but it's not a need for me.

At this point the main thing I want to see (aside from faster processor) is a wide-gamut display (now that the iMac, iPad, and iPhone 7 have it, I think the MBP deserves it!) and option for more ram. Otherwise, I don't need them to "innovate" much more. I know that's people's biggest complaint about Apple (no innovation!) but it's not mine. I just want a current computer that justifies the high price; I don't care how "different" it is.

Its a tough call to spend 2500euro on even the Macbook Pro when the processor is 3 generations old, even if it does benchmark almost exactly the same in reality as the current versions (its just not quite as power efficient).
I think Apple have almost perfected the Macbook Pro with the Retina version. The ONLY upgrade I think it needs is a more up to date processor and graphics card, and one usb3.1 type C (like every other laptop). Otherwise leave it exactly as it is.
I don't need nor want a 4k screen (or 5k as I expect they will release) as 2560 resolution is perfect, especially for Windows where I can use certain Win only apps in 1:1 resolution.
If there is no new Macbook Pro by October event or one I like the look of I might just be the last of the current generation which I think may be regarded as something of a classic (like the 17inch Macbook Pro, which still changes hands 5 years later for almost full retail - assuming AMD chips haven't burnt them out). :)
 
There's a difference in saying pen and paper is going to be obsolete and that you think other forms of saving information is better. And how do you back the fact up that "very few still uses old pen and paper" and that here almost everybody uses laptop for notes or the ipad pro? You obviously can't.

I'm not trying to insult you. I'm only drawing conclusions from what you're typing here. However, they point to that you are infact, a troll (or a moron), and that's not really insulting, it may be true :). Further i'm not trying to make any broad assumptions from these personal experiences like some others tend to do *cough*.

If you can't understand why your first statement is so blatantly wrong/stupid i'm not willing to answer to any more of your posts, sorry.
 
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Oh greeaaat.. Here we go again with this guy. Can you just go away again please? This thread was so much nicer to read after you were kicked from it last time.

I blame all of you that went on and on about wanting him back for his return.

All aboard the BS train everyone! How long until he starts regailing us with tales of his companies special access to "prototypes" and other made up leaks for which he provides no proof?

As far as pencil and paper being obsolete: total nonsense. I literally just took some notes last night with pencil and paper. Those notes will continue to exist as long as they are not physically destroyed, and aren't hidden behind a password that no one else would know if I were to die, or inherently tied to the stability of some corporations cloud service, or require access to expensive technology or electricity in order to read.

He was a troll, is a Troll, and will continue to be a Troll.
 
Aren't the ones that are released already the power saving or low powered Kaby Lake chips?

If I was buying a MBP, I want the HQ or higher performance chips, not the ones suitable for the MacBook or mabook air.
[doublepost=1473086410][/doublepost]just add to my comment above. If you already haven't know from previous post, I bought a 15 inch dell xps w/ the 6th gen 6700HQ I7 and I had absolutely no problems and it is super fast. Heck, even the touchpad is pretty good.

What important to state that the battery life with Skylake exceeded my expectations. I can play games for a while and still have ample of battery life left to do other stuff. What's really cool is that it doesn't get hot at all and the graphics looks pretty good when using the intel graphics chip on battery. Pleasantly surprised the fan's don't come on (or very quiet) when I play games on battery. The only time it gets warm and the fans come on is when I got it plugged in and it uses the Nvidia 960m graphics to play games.

Back to the subject of Apple.....If they do go ahead and go with the lower powered Kaby Lake chips for their new MacBook pro, then they are telling their power users that they don't matter any more...which is a big mistake IMO.

Only the power users buy the MacBook Pros, they want the most powerful chip (and computer) with this machine since they are paying top dollar for the MBP. Tim should just come out and say that they will not release the new MBP's until the high performance kaby lake chips come out next year. Not stuff a low power kaby lake chip in there and release it. The gimmicky led strip on the keyboard is not worth the potential backlash they will get if they release a another MacBook pro with the high performance kaby lake chip in less than a year.

MacBook pro users want their laptop to last for years & years, not just one year. What scares me is that Tim will start treating the MacBook pro's as 1 year only machines. Not everyone has 1500, 2k, or even 3K (Canada) to spend on a MBP every year.

Even though I'm out of the apple laptop world, I still respect all of you that uses apple laptops and you guys deserve a high power MacBook pro for the money you will plunk down for one.
 
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Oh greeaaat.. Here we go again with this guy. Can you just go away again please? This thread was so much nicer to read after you were kicked from it last time.

I am not sure this is the same guy; His grammar is much better. Of course, he could have purposely been using bad grammar last time, in which case his troll job was even more dedicated than I though.
 
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Only the power users buy the MacBook Pros, they want the most powerful chip (and computer) with this machine since they are paying top dollar for the MBP. Tim should just come out and say that they will not release the new MBP's until the high performance kaby lake chips come out next year. Not stuff a low power kaby lake chip in there and release it. The gimmicky led strip on the keyboard is not worth the potential backlash they will get if they release a another MacBook pro with the high performance kaby lake chip in less than a year.

I wouldn't say that only power users buy the MBP. Almost everyone I know owns a MBP if they don't own a PC and they don't fall in the power user category. However, the 15" seems to be pretty power-user oriented. In this case, perhaps last year's update cycle is a sign of things to come, where the 15" MBP lags a generation behind so it can have the high-performance processor, while the 13" MBP gets the mid-performance current generation. In this case, maybe Apple is gearing for a 15" Skylake and a 13" Kaby Lake. There's more space in the 15" to fit in any extra chips for feature parity that might be native to Kaby Lake.
 
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Different times. :D Seriously though, the school system and industry is so integrated into computers that not having a personal laptop as a student would be a huge inconvenience. I'm still working on my Civil degree. Here's my fluids professor:
http://www.cpp.edu/~engineering/ME/faculty/zhao.shtml

She's pretty much fresh out of school, although my Geotech professor, Donald Coduto, literally "wrote the book" on Geotechnical engineering. :p
Cal Poly's a great school, I've worked with several alums over the years on projects our firms collaborated with and have nothing but praise for the work they've done.

About being fresh out of college, it's just me but I steer clear of people that don't have field experience. Including many, many P.E.s I've worked with in my office - I earned a nickname of Mr. Fix-it at my firms until I went out on my own. Ugh. Flashbacks just now when typing this... :confused:

My geotech prof was Dr. Matthew Kuhn, also at UP and he's still there AFAIK 25 years later. An odd, but pretty brilliant guy. We used Mac SEs with 2 floppies for our lab work on the Mac side, HP Vectras for CAD work and environmental modeling - they're boat anchors now. Geotech "fix" projects were my bread and butter for years until a decade ago, and I miss the work but not the legal hassles if you're literally not standing over the dirt work contractors...

Enjoy school, and make sure you tour offices when you start looking for your professional destinations - if you can hear a pencil drop, run far, far away! :eek:

What do you do for math? hard taking notes on a computer for certain classes. I would of failed all my calculus classes with trying to keep up taking notes on a computer.
Chiming in here with a time warp wish - I wish we had iPhones back in my day as HD screen shots of blackboards filled with formulas and proofs in diffeq or thermo or fluids or..., yup, more time to make beer and play basketball. I'm putting an iPhone in my time machine... :p
 
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