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Good sign, just got an email from Best Buy for the new student coupons, interestingly missing is any form of discounts on Mac hardware. These coupons are valid from 9/4 to 10/8, typically after their big back to school discounts they still have a $50 off new Macs coupon. I think Best Buy is getting ready.
Just saw this, good news for once! Hype train!
 
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Is it true that the kaby lake quad core chips won't be released until January ? I know apple uses different chips for their MacBook line , but I waited for the idea to get a kaby lake Dell XPS 15 and looks like I waited for nothing :/
 
Is it true that the kaby lake quad core chips won't be released until January ? I know apple uses different chips for their MacBook line , but I waited for the idea to get a kaby lake Dell XPS 15 and looks like I waited for nothing :/
If you aren't waiting for a major redesign in the rMBP, just buy a laptop when you need one. The current XPS15 and rMBP 15 are plenty powerful that you won't feel like you're getting an out of date computer.
 
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Huh?!? I can type WAY faster than I can write. In fact, when I need to take copious notes, I specifically grab my laptop rather than pen and paper. So by my experience, I couldn't imagine anyone who would think a laptop without a real tactile keyboard would be faster, but I guess you're different ... or never learned to type effectively?

You can definitely type text faster than you can write it, but have you ever tried to take engineering/physics/math notes on a laptop? Even a LaTeX wizard probably wouldn't be able to keep up with a lecture!
 
Honestly a thinner, lighter machine is top of my wish list for the new Macbook Pro, assuming that they can keep the battery life and performance consistent with what they are now. I have to buy the 15 inch because some of the software I use requires a quad core machine and if they can make it more portable I would be happy with that.
 
If you aren't waiting for a major redesign in the rMBP, just buy a laptop when you need one. The current XPS15 and rMBP 15 are plenty powerful that you won't feel like you're getting an out of date computer.
I know , it's just I thought to myself , just wait a couple of months , because last year Dell announced the Skylake XPS models at ifa and I thought that would be the case this year again :(

And I gave up on the MacBook pro by now , maybe down the road I'll get an iMac ... When it gets refreshed maybe in 2018 :/
 
You can definitely type text faster than you can write it, but have you ever tried to take engineering/physics/math notes on a laptop? Even a LaTeX wizard probably wouldn't be able to keep up with a lecture!

One of my classmates used to take all his notes on a laptop, then write the equations out on paper and leave markers. It worked pretty well until he hit some of the horrendous notation required in general relativity when he couldn't get latex to play ball anymore.

He also didn't notice we changed his auto correct of electron to erection and hadron to hardon. Erection detectors at the large hardon collider... that still makes me laugh now.
 
Honestly a thinner, lighter machine is top of my wish list for the new Macbook Pro, assuming that they can keep the battery life and performance consistent with what they are now. I have to buy the 15 inch because some of the software I use requires a quad core machine and if they can make it more portable I would be happy with that.

I can understand why some people might want this, but if it actually happens, my next laptop will probably be a Thinkpad. I need a professional desktop replacement, and the current MacBook Pro is already too thin for me in the sense that it can't accommodate an Ethernet port, and it throttles heavily under load. It also doesn't have enough USB ports. I don't know what Apple's definition of "Pro" is these days, but it's definitely not the same as mine. After using Macs for about 25 years, a Thinkpad P50 is probably in my future.
 
I know , it's just I thought to myself , just wait a couple of months , because last year Dell announced the Skylake XPS models at ifa and I thought that would be the case this year again :(

And I gave up on the MacBook pro by now , maybe down the road I'll get an iMac ... When it gets refreshed maybe in 2018 :/
Heh, I know the feeling. Last September, I told my girlfriend I'm waiting for the new MBP update when she got her 2015 13" rMBP and she makes fun of me now. I would switch to Dell or Microsoft if they could get their trackpads to Apple standards.
 
Heh, I know the feeling. Last September, I told my girlfriend I'm waiting for the new MBP update when she got her 2015 13" rMBP and she makes fun of me now. I would switch to Dell or Microsoft if they could get their trackpads to Apple standards.
I'm going to wait one last time , until the first week of October maybe for a XPS 15 refresh with the Skylake models that were released this year on the one year anniversary of the original Skylake refresh haha :( yes it sounds pathetic , but I don't want to buy a one year old machine at the original price :(
 
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That thing is progressive thinking.
That is a cool little beastie. My only "I'll pass, for now" was when the video got to "Intel Atom..." - what with Intel cancelling the Atom including the X5 in that unit, I'd wait for the version with a Celeron and no installed Lenovo spyware...
 
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So Kaby Lakes are already in (we can say presented) laptops. Razer Stealth with i7-7500U
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Apple with their perfect CPU choice again will be the last among others...

As has been thoroughly discussed already, the U series are all super low power processors that you would not find in a MBP. So, cool story.
 
I can understand why some people might want this, but if it actually happens, my next laptop will probably be a Thinkpad. I need a professional desktop replacement, and the current MacBook Pro is already too thin for me in the sense that it can't accommodate an Ethernet port, and it throttles heavily under load. It also doesn't have enough USB ports. I don't know what Apple's definition of "Pro" is these days, but it's definitely not the same as mine. After using Macs for about 25 years, a Thinkpad P50 is probably in my future.
Honestly, it is going to happen, though. There's almost no chance that the new Macbook Pro would be thicker than the one now. Truth is it's most likely going to be slightly thinner than the one now. With that being said, I do know that Macs really used to be aimed with the traditional meaning of the word "Professional" in mind, but the new "Pro" is just a moniker to mean said machine(rMBP for example) is simply a more powerful version of the version without the Pro moniker(Macbook). It's kind of obvious Pro =/ Professional users, rather Pro just means more powerful compared to the non-Pro model. That's all. Kind of like how Surface Pro means just a "more powerful Surface", rather than an workstation aimed at people who need 32gb ram, and more than a 15W processor, for example.

The thing is Apple doesn't really even try to market to the Professional market anymore. They market to "creative professionals", which literally just means people who delve into art, music, maybe a little bit of photoshop but ultimately people who create content in the form of entertainment, art, music. It's unfair to say Apple doesn't care about Professional users anymore, when Apple literally shows you it's a changed company than it was 1-2 decades ago. That's obvious they're not really aimed at industrial, science, etc professionals anymore, but said professionals still linger because..?

There's actual companies who DO focus on traditional Professional users, and they aren't hiding it. The Dell "Precision Mobile Workstation" line, ThinkPad line, etc etc. So why not jump ship, instead of saying how Apple isn't something it was a few decades back? Macs are bought by "non techie" people who use it for college and in coffee shops nowadays. Heck here in Manhattan I can say almost every college student that is female owns a Macbook or Macbook Pro. A lot are friends of mine, and they have no literacy in anything technical. They get it because of the easy to use UI, social media, facetime, and imessage. And guess what, a majority of them major in English, Music, Education. However almost all guys in engineering, csci classes (Not being sexist, these classes literally are like 90%+ male) here use windows workstations. It's just an interesting observance, that's all. Almost all of my real techie nerd friends who are enthusiasts about performance have been Windows nerds. It's even funny because the Mac vs PC ads some years back have the stereotypical tech geeky nerd as the PC guy, and the cool hip fashionable guy as the Mac guy.
 
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Is it true that the kaby lake quad core chips won't be released until January ? I know apple uses different chips for their MacBook line , but I waited for the idea to get a kaby lake Dell XPS 15 and looks like I waited for nothing :/

Look at it this way, Intel announced the quad core Skylake chips with Iris Pro 580 back in January. So far the only shipping product with those chips is their own Skull Canyon NUC which has barely been out a month.

Other quad cores have been out longer, but pretty sure they all took a while to actually appear post-"launch" (announcement).

So far they've only announced the low power U (and M?) Kaby Lakes. You may be waiting a while.
 
The word "pro" has pretty much lost all meaning because everyone calls themselves a professional. It's like the term emo in music. It doesn't mean anything because everyone has a different standard.

So yea, pro in the Apple lexicon means higher powered, more features, and a higher price. That's it. You don't have to be a specific type of person to use any Apple machine. Get what you like and can afford.
 
I'm all for 'innovation' that actually improves the user experiemce or solves a problem. This does neither IMO. Making changes to things that already work great, to something less useful - isn't the kind of 'innovation' we should be cheering for.

A non tactile keyboard is decidedly less effective than a tactile one.

Robeddie`s post is in fact a very very important post, because this viewpoint and attitude preserve the great values that have taken years to develop regarding in this case how a keyboard can be developed to be one of the best keyboards...
 
You can definitely type text faster than you can write it, but have you ever tried to take engineering/physics/math notes on a laptop? Even a LaTeX wizard probably wouldn't be able to keep up with a lecture!

Pfft. You'd get destroyed on the potential flow lines lecture in Fluid Mechanics alone, if you even get that far.
 
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