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Photographers/may be movie makers I have to agree, with the cut pro software albeit Dell XPS 15 with Sky Lake with USB C and a 4 Trillion resolution is their preferred destination for the last one year or so.

For the rest, (minus the 9 year old coder girl) they can be easily more productive with any Windows 10 Laptop. These muppets(including Obama ad Trump) are just showing off, they do not need a MBP.

For them a common MacBook or MacBook Air should be more than suffice, one reason they might go for MBP is the hard disk space, For Majority its tad difficult to survive with a 256 or 512 GB machine...some of them might go for MBP but one Apple upgrades the HD space on other Mac Variants, they all should move away from MBP. For these numpties sleekness matters more than substance.

For Management and Finance Professionals, MacBook air should be enough.
For school girls and teens MacBook should be fine.


MBP are not meant for gaming, they are not going suck additional power and burn out the batteries like Alienware, ROG, MSI etc..So gaming gimps are outta the equation.

For computer scientists and serious programmers like me who extensively script and code in open source MBP is must. I even do that on Windows with equal ease, but always have the feel good factor when working on a high powered Unix Based system.

As for University students it might be of some help but they need more of an all round machine than a high powered professional beast. For instance they do not download high end work specific paid software packages, they can live with a red hat or Ubuntu along with Windows 10 in a dual boot for documentations, occasional gaming and presentations.

If Tim really wants to beef up the MBP he should focus more on OS Sierra, Battery Power, USBC, resolution and processing power, disk space, caching speed, single-multicore split and RAM. (may be one with a 32GB RAM with DDR4) than talking about full blown. horse wank stuff like OLED Panel, Touch ID etc.

He can reserve all these features for Air or the Mac Book school girls and sheeps would lap it up in a jiffy.

MBP consumers are different from majority of iPhone Consumers. We're not fools, its not easy to market snake oil easily.
Technically you can't say MBP consumers aren't "fools" because you don't realistically have a measurement of who buys the rMBP. Most likely, the candidate won't be engineers. CSCIentists maybe, but many are also college students, content consumers, blah blah who buy it less for the power but more for its known reliability and premium brand image.
 
What do you guys think Apples asking price for the 13" machine could be?

That's a good question. It's tough to look at the $1299 price now; Amazon is selling both models for $100 cheaper off the bat. I know other places have been doing deals. I think we'll see some sort of price increase to cover all of the new tech. Hopefully they can give us a $1399 and $2099 start.

But who knows?

I just can't wait to see what changes the MBA gets and if the MB gets a price cut.
 
With Sierra releasing in 4 days, just what exactly is Apple planning to do, if they were looking to release new mac books?
 
Don't care what you use it for, how much it costs, what chip it has in it, what color it is, how thin it is, how much it weighs; I need one NOW please. My 2009 15" is barely hanging on literally with its cracked delaminating hinge.:(
 
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With Sierra releasing in 4 days, just what exactly is Apple planning to do, if they were looking to release new mac books?

Release Sierra and remind people that Macs are still a thing and that they care about them enough to rebrand the OS. Then we patiently wait for the iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPods to enjoy their time in the spotlight. With Sierra out there we will get some reviews and videos and coverage which will get people in the Mac mood.

Now that products are out, the whole "one product overshadows another" is reasonable. If you look at it in terms of the website, when October hits: I can see the AirPods losing their main carousel spot on the Apple front page and taking the Swift Playground spot. Then the new MBP / other Mac products can take up some prime carousel space.
 
Well shoot, I better return mine then or give it away to a charity that will rehome it to a suitable scientist or technician.

Thank you for your clarification on this, Apple must have made a mistake when they sold it to me by not doing a thorough background check.

I am a scientific technician with a programming background. Send it to me!
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Knew this would happen eventually

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/16/12939310/iphone-7-a10-fusion-processor-apple-intel-future

I will state at again Tim Cooke will elimate MacOS and bring iOS to the macs

No, he won't.
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God I hate those "this is what I think is the proper use of this device, so everyone using it differently are wrong" people. Also, hipsters. Also people who hate other people all the time... God, haters... I hate haters...

Stop hating on the haters! They're people too!
 
Technically you can't say MBP consumers aren't "fools" because you don't realistically have a measurement of who buys the rMBP. Most likely, the candidate won't be engineers. CSCIentists maybe, but many are also college students, content consumers, blah blah who buy it less for the power but more for its known reliability and premium brand image.

I'm an engineering student and to be honest, minus the awful default trackpad settings, MBPs are the best Windows laptop out there, and I've even used the Surface book. I also love the flexibility that dual boot provides, because I can make powerful Keynotes and don't have to pay extra for quality movie editing software, while still being able to effectively run my engineering apps that need Windows.
 
I'm an engineering student and to be honest, minus the awful default trackpad settings, MBPs are the best Windows laptop out there, and I've even used the Surface book. I also love the flexibility that dual boot provides, because I can make powerful Keynotes and don't have to pay extra for quality movie editing software, while still being able to effectively run my engineering apps that need Windows.
Great to hear, as a fellow engineer who is making the switch! :cool:
 
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So... For something which is supposed to be released in 3 to 4 weeks from today, this is awfully quiet. Goddmit, didn't think it would be later than that but clearly, it will.

They're all in the iPhone/Watch threads. I ordered both, but find myself not as excited as years past. I've ordered every iPhone since the original and this is the most lackluster upgrade to date. Gives me hope that they were/are focusing on our new MacBookPros!
 
Looking forward to replacing my aging ( but still performing-well ) early-2011 MBP.

But in the meantime, I just figured out the reason my iMac has been having problems is because it's part of the 3tb Fusion recall program, and I never received an email from Apple to let me know. You'd think they could have emailed.
 
Knew this would happen eventually

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/16/12939310/iphone-7-a10-fusion-processor-apple-intel-future

I will state at again Tim Cooke will elimate MacOS and bring iOS to the macs

Nonsense. They wouldn't rebrand it to macOS if it didn't have a future. And iOS is all touch; 3D Touch is a big staple of iOS 10.

So... For something which is supposed to be released in 3 to 4 weeks from today, this is awfully quiet. Goddmit, didn't think it would be later than that but clearly, it will.

The event may not take place until the fourth week of October (as seen in 2012 and 2013). In 2014 we were lucky with the third week and last year's press release in lieu of an event came the second week. So who knows?

Right now it's about the iPhone (unfortunately). Reviews, videos, futures, all driving iPhone interest and sales. Next week with Sierra will be the beginning of the end as everyone slowly shifts focus to Macs.
 
Knew this would happen eventually

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/16/12939310/iphone-7-a10-fusion-processor-apple-intel-future

I will state at again Tim Cooke will eliminate MacOS and bring iOS to the macs
How would anyone write iOS apps if there was no MacOS? Xcode is not going to run on iOS anytime soon...

What I found funny about that article, was the conclusion that the A10 required iOS... macOS could be ported to A10... in fact considering OS X had been running on Intel processors during the PowerPC era, I bet in one of Apple's labs, macOS is already running on a AX processor.

Who knows, if A10-Fusion is really faster than a Mac Pro, maybe the new Mac's already have it... would explain the long delay between releases across the whole line...
 
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Apple believes that the OLED bar and an underclocked AMD GPU will save Mac sales ...
I will wait for the specs and then leave. I can deal with a dualboot Linux/Windows Dell with no issues.
Xcode runs fine on my 2008 MacPro.
 
I'm kind of a noob on gaming but will the new MBP most likely be able to play assassin's Creed Revelations using Windows?(on a decent framerate and resolution)

Which new MBP? Assasin's creed games are very demanding and use resources very inefficiently. But Iris 550 in the 13" MBP plays Assassins creed 3 and 4 on low settings just fine. And the current and future dGPU plays assassins creed 3 and 4 at high resolution and high settings smooth as butter. And Revelations is older and less intensive than 3 and 4.

Knew this would happen eventually

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/16/12939310/iphone-7-a10-fusion-processor-apple-intel-future

I will state at again Tim Cooke will elimate MacOS and bring iOS to the macs

No.

But Eventually Tim Cook / Apple will try to make Mac OS run on ARM, probably apple made chips. but keep the name Mac OS.

However, this is a long ways off. We will have x86 Macs for quite some time still
 
So, I am now done waiting for Skylake MBP. If Apple does not introduce a 13" Kabylake MPB in October -- I will be moving onto the XPS 13 Developers version.

Same here. Done waiting and the XPS 13 looks and feels great, I've used one for a short period of time.
 
It makes me sick how much Apple is obsessed with iOS devices....
Stop neglecting the Mac line. I will never replace my Mac with an iPad....ever.

How pissed do you think the Mac division of Apple is right now? They must be absolutely bursting to release new hardware, and sick of constantly being told "Not yet, it's not the right time for the wider company".

If the Mac-making part of Apple were allowed autonomy over their releases I think we'd see a very different landscape for Mac users.
 
Photographers/may be movie makers I have to agree, with the cut pro software albeit Dell XPS 15 with Sky Lake with USB C and a 4 Trillion resolution is their preferred destination for the last one year or so.

For the rest, (minus the 9 year old coder girl) they can be easily more productive with any Windows 10 Laptop. These muppets(including Obama ad Trump) are just showing off, they do not need a MBP.

For them a common MacBook or MacBook Air should be more than suffice, one reason they might go for MBP is the hard disk space, For Majority its tad difficult to survive with a 256 or 512 GB machine...some of them might go for MBP but once Apple upgrades the HD space on other Mac Variants, they all should move away from MBP. For these numpties sleekness matters more than substance.

For Management and Finance Professionals, MacBook air should be enough.
For school girls and teens MacBook should be fine.


MBP are not meant for gaming, they are not going suck additional power and burn out the batteries like Alienware, ROG, MSI etc..So gaming gimps are outta the equation.

For computer scientists and serious programmers like me who extensively script and code in open source MBP is must. I even do that on Windows with equal ease, but always have the feel good factor when working on a high powered Unix Based system.

As for University students it might be of some help but they need more of an all round machine than a high powered professional beast. For instance they do not download high end work specific paid software packages, they can live with a red hat or Ubuntu along with Windows 10 in a dual boot for documentations, occasional gaming and presentations.

If Tim really wants to beef up the MBP he should focus more on OS Sierra, Battery Power, USBC, resolution and processing power, disk space, caching speed, single-multicore split and RAM. (may be one with a 32GB RAM with DDR4) than talking about full blown. horse wank stuff like OLED Panel, Touch ID etc.

He can reserve all these features for Air or the Mac Book school girls and sheeps would lap it up in a jiffy.

MBP consumers are different from majority of iPhone Consumers. We're not fools, its not easy to market snake oil easily.

You're confusing your perception of what others need or what they should purchase with the actual market of the Macbook Pro. To give you an idea of what's happening, look at the original iPhone. If you look back at the presentations, they focused entirely on enterprise and pushed the phone as this new business tool. Now, nearly ten years later, the updates focus on photography and social interaction because that's how the iPhone evolved. This pretty much happened with the entire Macbook line. Just because we understand that the Macbook Pro is generally more powerful than the Air or the regular Macbook doesn't mean anyone else will. Instead, people look price and popularity; in general, all 13" Apple laptops cost about the same, give or take a few hundred dollars. That leaves popularity to dominate and given that the MBP has had a consistent design for a long time, it's the most popular. In other words, when Apple gets consumer and sales data, they see most people buying MBP's and most of those people not being professionals. Your only saving grace is the 15".
 
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