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Waiting for the 2017 MBP (Kaby Lake / Cannonlake / Coffee Lake??)
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No way is that going to happen as early in March; the earliest we'll see an update is WWDC or possible next October. Significant updates to a new design don't happen in a few months (exception: iPad3).
If they do this, me and a lot of other people will be seriously pissed. They had us waiting a good amount of time for the Skylake redesign and then they're just going to crank out another update, not many months later? It'd be a serious "**** you" from Apple to its customers who just shelled out a lot of money after waiting a long time. Sounding a lot like the people saying that we were going to get a Broadwell/Skylake update back in fall/winter 2015, after the already mid-year refresh, only to wait a whole other year.
It would also be like they released some franken-product just to give themselves some more time to release the real product.
Unless there are some serious issues, I think it will be about a year before we see the next updates.
There wont be a new GPU for next year by AMD. Polaris 11 is pretty much all we're going to get until 2018. Without a GPU bump, Apple will probably quietly update the CPU to Kaby Lake and tweak the designs but not actually hold a press conference for this. There's no reason why they wouldn't update as soon as Kaby Lake is available. With such a little change, they could do it ASAP, as early as march.
I expect to be disappointed regardless. I expect I'll buy a Skylake machine, and if I do they'll roll out Kaby quickly. Conversely if I wait, it'll be another 18 months. Also, with the pound 'fluctuating' (read crashing) and Brexegeddon looming I can imagine any potential price drop being swallowed by exchange rate conversions.
I'm not clued up on the graphics stuff, but do the new dGPUs help with the 4k HEVC stuff?
I'm not clued up on the graphics stuff, but do the new dGPUs help with the 4k HEVC stuff?
it will be at least another year until we see a KabyLake Macbook Pro, look how long it took to get Skylake.
It will be a good model, Kabylake CPU, possiblty 32gb ram, improved 2 gen touch bar.
The skylake will be fine for me at this point in time... just waiting for the delivery man, hurry up the 17th-22th
It will be a good model, Kabylake CPU, possiblty 32gb ram, improved 2 gen touch bar.
The skylake will be fine for me at this point in time... just waiting for the delivery man, hurry up the 17th-22th
Really sad to see the Skylake Thread being locked. So trying to say farewell here to my fellow waiters. The ride has been great but i bought the 2016 today. Guess we will meet in 3-5 years again 
Consider yourself lucky, the shipping times have now increased to 3-4 weeks!
P.S. Congrats and enjoy it man! I wish I were in your place, but my late 2013 Macbook Pro is still rocking, I can't justify another >2000$ purchase yet.
A processor bump won't come with a price drop.
Like with the Mac Pro overhaul? And small price cuts? Dude, the 2015 models are still the same price. And the overpriced MB is still the same price.
Like with the Mac Pro overhaul? And small price cuts? Dude, the 2015 models are still the same price. And the overpriced MB is still the same price.
Exception: Retina MacBook Pro. Exception: Unibody MBP.
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It's not like Apple hasn't done that exact thing multiple times before.
Hey what about external Ram. Thunderbolt 3 having a nice bandwidth we could have a other level of ram. A lot slower then normal ram but much faster then the SSD. A lot of stuff should be able to be cached in a slower ram without us noticing. Would that be possible ?
Folks, the next "New rMBP" is probably going to be around CoffeeLake and the next gen Polaris stuff. These won't be ready before mid 2018. By new, I don't mean a measly Kaby Lake update... which will provide you with... nothing substantial, if you're in the 99% of users. But everyone here seems to believe they're so special they need 64 GB of RAM (but for most of you, it's just a want that would be probably a very expensive upgrade anyway).
I've had a great MBP Early 2011 (which even got the GPU failure) and now is a perfect time to buy this great new machine, until the next one around Late 2018 (if lucky) or Early 2019. It's going to be perfect for my use (I'm a developer and I use VMs and all the good stuff). When I need raw power, I can spin as many cloud instances to give me all the computation power and memory I want). I don't need that in a laptop for 99% of the time.
So yes, thanks Apple for going thinner and lighter. The only (minor) issue is the price point, but I don't see what else I could buy that's going to be as good in every way. And don't tell me "Dell, Asus, MSI, Razer, ..." or worse, the new SB.
However, if you've got a Mid 2012 or more recent rMBP, then I fully understand your anger.
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macOS would use swapping which is order of magnitude slower than RAM but thanks to the new SSDs you've got 3.1 GB/s transfer rate which is pretty decent for some swap (I still need to see that happening though).
I've had a great MBP Early 2011 (which even got the GPU failure) and now is a perfect time to buy this great new machine, until the next one around Late 2018 (if lucky) or Early 2019. It's going to be perfect for my use (I'm a developer and I use VMs and all the good stuff). When I need raw power, I can spin as many cloud instances to give me all the computation power and memory I want). I don't need that in a laptop for 99% of the time.
So yes, thanks Apple for going thinner and lighter. The only (minor) issue is the price point, but I don't see what else I could buy that's going to be as good in every way. And don't tell me "Dell, Asus, MSI, Razer, ..." or worse, the new SB.
However, if you've got a Mid 2012 or more recent rMBP, then I fully understand your anger
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macOS would use swapping which is order of magnitude slower than RAM but thanks to the new SSDs you've got 3.1 GB/s transfer rate which is pretty decent for some swap (I still need to see that happening though).
I was worried about the HEVC hardware decoding capabilities that Kaby Lake would bring that Skylake lacks, but I ended up ordering a 15" MacBook Pro with the Radeon 460, and all three variants of the GPU in the 15" models have the capability to do hardware decoding. In essence, if you're getting the 15" model, waiting around for Kaby Lake is kinda "eh". If you're after the 13" model? Yeah, I'd wait.
Just my take anyway.
Just my take anyway.
Adding the other sizes that were not available at launch doesn't count. Neither does the minor tweak to processor speed in March 09.
What? The March 2013 update to the Retina MBP is the best analogue here, because it followed an extremely expensive redesign in October 2012. It dropped the price by $200 and added new processors.
Yeah, no offense to everyone in this thread, but I hope they don't update for at least another 500 days...
The rMBP came out in June 12 (announced at WWDC). So an update in March 13 was after about 9 months. March is now only 5 months away, so I think the earliest update would be at WWDC 2017. And then we have Apple's recent trend towards less frequent update across the board.
It might. They've certainly slowed down their updates recently. But it might be due to the redesign and things could return to a more normal schedule next year.
Well I guess I'll be joining this thread now... from waiting for sky lake for about a year, getting annoyed and getting an xps in June, to having had enough of windows in September, getting most of the spending back and getting a mid-2015 rMBP, waiting for sky lake, ordering the touchbar 13", cancelling and ordering non touchbar 13", to cancelling and loving my mid-2015.
I need to make better life choices.
These threads have started feeling like AA meetings.
I need to make better life choices.
These threads have started feeling like AA meetings.
Exactly. I would expect to see more regular updates with the MBP now that a redesign is out. That was the reason for such a long delay.
Jeez. Spending all that time working on something that ******. Wish they could've used that time to come up with something that would actually increase productivity.
rMBP provided updates about every 7-9 months I believe...until the last year.
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