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Waiting for the 2017 MBP (Kaby Lake / Cannonlake / Coffee Lake??)
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Link to the battery debacle guys being fired. There isn't any because that is an alternate fact statement. And wishful thinking that the new Kaby Lake will be $500 cheaper. It will be the other way around, so $1,000 more for you.
I have a source within the company who told me a few things:
1. a number of engineers got fired over the extra space you can see around the battery. It should have had a contoured battery like the MacBook has, around 99WHr.
2. He/she understands that better batteries, cpus, and more memory are coming
3. lower prices will come with time
Don't have anything more concrete to go on/give, I'm afraid.
Is that you, S*****?
Anyway, your predictions make sense according to past rumors, but not lowering the price.
That doesn't make sense.
I mean, it's Apple...
Anyway, your predictions make sense according to past rumors, but not lowering the price.
That doesn't make sense.
I mean, it's Apple...
People do realize, of course, that Apple doesn't make these chips. And people do realize that Apple is dependent on Intel to make a chip with a function iGPU of some stature. And people do realize that Apple is not likely to make her MBP fatter so that a better dGPU can be fitted. So Apple is dependent on on Intel making a CPU with an integrated GPU that is thin enough, and energy efficient enough to put inside a case that they have already made too thin and has too small a battery for 95% of the available options? Right?
There should be prototypes of MBPs with terraced batteries by now
Maybe around three different types.
A price cut is almost for certain: Apple's usual modus operandi is to hike prices on its laptop redesigns and then drop the prices with the following spec bump(s). It did this in February 2013 with the Ivy Bridge spec bumps of the retina MBPs that had been released in June 2012. The 13" rMBP/128GB fell $200 from $1699 to $1499, and the 13" rMBP/256GB dropped $300 from $1999 to $1699. For the second spec bump in October 2013, the 13" rMBPs all fell $200 more in price, while the 15" rMBPs dropped $200.
It's worth noting Ming-Chi Kuo fully expects a price drop: https://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/31/macbooks-2017-price-cuts-32gb-ram/
Now a $500 price drop? That's where I think the original poster was getting into wishful thinking. As much as we'd love it, $200-300 price cuts are what seems reasonable to expect based on past history.
YEAH.... Apple is clearly our mother(I wondered if anyone would pick up on that). She is birthing all our stuff. Its not a father, they only give the germ of an idea. I think we need to give the father image the Xerox.
Oh yes, $500 was completely wishful on my part. Was just saying that'd probably my threshold for picking up a MBP, since I mostly use my computer for writing articles and the occasional game of overwatch. Nothing that I can really justify "needing" a mac for.
Nah this ones English is too good.
Though I do kinda miss Serban.
Then why don't you give us some inside scoops, Mark?
(we all miss him...)
Then why don't you give us some inside scoops, Mark?
(we all miss him...)
Mark who? Who Mark? Shhh.....
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I think Apple tried the terraced batteries in the Jony tooooooo thin Ives Skylake cases and they ran into multiple problems -lack of air flow, overheating and battery swelling under the track pad...as (blessed be his name) S***** pointed out (the overheating), almost a year ago ...
@ 2015 price and that's the most infuriating thing.Maybe your first question was confusing.
In short, Apple is currently selling the old 2015 model with 2015 specs, and the 2016 model with 2016 specs.
Quite a self-evident truth
i've my money ready since 2 years (not joking, i was waiting for the "official" egpu support) and even if the new MacBook Pro 2016 is a good piece of hardware still doesn't fit my needs as an updated classic retina would do.
Please apple give us a retina macbook pro SE: old chassis new hardware + tb3 instead of tb2 that's all.
Just for the record, what are your needs? By this, I mean what would that new one have to be able to do that your current model does not?
The GPU is my current biggest problem since a lot of the sw that I use would go way better with a discrete GPU supporting cuda, that's why I don't want to pay big money in something that will not change so radically my user experience. I also own a good windows laptop with top of the line intel CPU and high end nvidia GPU, but I can't stand all those purple leds and the fake aluminum chassis, win10 is not that bad but the best thing about that laptop is that at half the price of the mbp is really improving my productivity by doing more in less time and I'm not taliking about "wow I opened illustrator in 0.5 secs!!!!1!1!"
But honestly I wouldn't bring that laptop with me not even under torture, it seams like it was designed as part of a luna park.
Moreover I very like the "usb-c makes eve coffe" thing but I would be obliged in buy a lot of new peripherals or dongles, going on, the new mbp keyboard is annoying, and the trackpad is stupidly too big that's why for me an updated "old" retina would be much better, even at the same entry price
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I do not know why people assume that this is why they left empty space around the 2016 MBP battery pack.
- 2015 and 2016 MB have terraced Li-ion battery witout empty space, no problem whatsoever (AFAIK);
- iPhones and iPads have not empty space, minor swelling problem.
Overheating and swelling was not the cause of that asinine decision, unless they used an entirely new battery technology that backfired.
So you want Apple to make a sexy thin laptop that is as powerful as your clunky PC? You do know that Apple is totally dependent on Intel's cpu's and Graphic and manufacturers of gpu's to make them small enough and power efficient enough to fit in Apple's sexy thin laptops, right? You want an Arnold Schwarzenegger who looks like Pamela Anderson?
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Sometimes when you make something, you just can't know if it will work synergistically with everything else in the space you designed it for---until you actually put it in the space. Modeling and specs only go so far when you are dealing in complexity theory.
Still, it does not explain why, reverting to old tech (li-ion) battery, they had to leave empty space around...
Production timeline and cost of finding the old tech in the most optimum shape for the new chassis, I would imagine. Apparently the new tech that failed testing happened quite late, so the switch was probably done very late too, not leaving much time. Probably why the batteries are so tiny.
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