since you will have a touchscreen on the bottom as well...we can go back to handwrite with apple pencil on it and since Apple already have the best handwritten text recon...
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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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Eh not quite the same. The Air doesn‘t have a Retina screen which is a big no-go in 2018 for many people, and it is spec-wise nowhere near the 2015 MBPs from what I remember. It doesn‘t have as many ports as the 2015 MBPs either which is what many people who dislike the 2016+ MBPs are liking the old models for. I don‘t think it ever got the new Force Touch trackpad either which is another big dealbreaker.
For people who just want a Mac that‘s as cheap as possible and don‘t care about outdated specs and technologies, it‘s an okay device, considering it sells really cheap nowadays with many retailers. But it‘s not anywhere near a „MacBook SE“ that snortpig was describing.
I guess you could argue Apple already provides this device, as they kept the 2015 model around. Though it offers zero value for money at the moment. Considering it's almost three years old, and massively overpriced (in the UK at least). If they updated the internals or reduced the price, it could become a good buy for a lot of people.
and go back to 20 words per minute with it
And keyboard shortcuts are gonna be fun too. Imagine drawing "cmd c" and "cmd v" all the time on that touch surface.
Touch screen keyboard? Well, nothing would surprise me anymore. But I doubt they will go on that route, but if they do, that is a good enough reason for me to drop MBP completely
On the other hand, if they put an OLED touchscreen inside every single key cap, there could be some genuinely useful applications for that.
And I can't even begin to imagine how expensive
I conceptualized that idea some time ago. Here’s some use cases I thought of (borrowed from another post of mine):
If you are learning DVORAK, you can look at the keyboard and it would help. Or if you are learning Japanese and you’d like to learn how to use the Japanese keyboard, you would look at the keyboard to “learn” it while you are not proficient in it.
For alternative layouts and other languages, it’s a convenience. Also it simplifies the supply chain by just providing one keyboard layout. It improves resale value as well (you probably wouldn’t be able to sell a Chinese keyboard MBP to a non-Chinese user.)
The glyph design would be more minimal as well. For instance, the number keys no longer have to display the modified (e.g. when using Shift) key, but they would dynamically change on a key press to display the alternative keys.
Also, you can remap your keys (for instance, you could use Caps-Lock as ESC and that change would be represented in the keyboard. You could basically invent your own keyboard layout and it’s much better IMO to have the key labels match your layout.
You could use it for some other “gimmicks” as well. Games could display some simple icons for your cooldowns and they could change color and intensity depending on whether you have sufficient resources (health, mana, etc.) to cast a specific skill, for instance.
If a game doesn’t use all of the keys (many of them don’t) those keys can be blacked out; so you will immediately know what keys to use by just looking at the keyboard.
Or when you are learning to use a hotkey-intensive program like Sibelius or Blender, for instance, those programs could display icons on demand (maybe using a modifier key) for assistance (instead of you printing a cheatsheet.)
Some OS-level information could be displayed on the keys, too. Perhaps if you’re using copy & paste, the paste button (no longer really the “V” key with a Cmd modifier can display whether your clipboard is empty.
Overall, these changes are mostly for the convenience of the users when they are learning how to use the keyboard and some programs. Experienced users don’t really need to look at their keyboards; but this change allows the keyboard layout to change contextually so for other functionality that was not allowed in the prior keyboards can be shown so that they can adapt faster.
MacBook with touch-screen keyboard?
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...ay-macbook-or-second-generation-ipad-pro.html
Apple would really need to create an awesome feedback solution to completely detract from buttons. The current 2017 MBP keyboard constantly causes me mistakes due to the layout, and the lack of travel. The keyboard is my least favorite thing about this computer, and a screen only keyboard would cause me to look down while typing.
However, if this means convergence between the defunct iPad Pro identity, and the MacBook Pro, I'm all for it.
They would probably say, 'third gen butterfly keyboard.' I recall them saying gen 2 keyboard in the 2017 announcement.
Wasn't second gen in the 2016 version? And 2017 got 'just' a allegedly silent update?
I think the Macbook SE would be a good way for apple to save face, so to speak. They don't have to admit that the touchbar et al wasn't a smash hit, while still keeping the business of everyone who doesn't want to jump on the TB/USB-C/butterfly bandwagon.
I wonder why they kept the 15" but not the 13".
MacBook Pro 2018 Wishlist:
- 32gb optional ram
- Touchbar optional
- New keyboard design
- Spac grey accessories available for ‘Pro’ user
- March 2018
I’d preorder it right now...
- 32gb optional ram
- Touchbar optional
- New keyboard design
- Spac grey accessories available for ‘Pro’ user
- March 2018
I’d preorder it right now...
March 2018 I can like, but I think the touch bar is good over a year in. I don't utilise every inch of its functionality, but I am not a bystander. I understand the frustration that it hasn't achieved any adaptation outside of the MacBook Pro line, still I can't go against it. 16GB memory is still fine for a laptop. The dGPU in MacBook Pros have never challenged desktop GPUs and the goal has been portability with sufficient power rather than raw power with fans and bulky form factors.
The keyboard design needs to be better than the current offering. I've had four different keyboards replaced on three different MacBook and MacBook Pros after they begin shipping their computers with butterfly switches in 2015. All in all, this has been the most troublesome computers in the history of my experience with Mac. I remember a few DOAs with the white MacBook when they switched to Intel in 2006, but ten years later they seem to have changed too fast and focused on many things at the same time instead of adopting new technologies at an evolutionary pace. Revolutions aren't required when you already have a good product at hand.
I still like Apple, but I am getting impatient with how much clutter they have dragged into their products in the last three years. I liked the iPhone X, but it is somewhat bug-ridden, and sometimes feels a bit beta, the same you may say regarding the new MacBook Pros. Mine has been to the Apple Care a couple of times. Replaced blown speakers, motherboard, keyboard and battery. Apple still seems to have the best idea, but the execution has been somewhat flawed in the last half of this decade.
The keyboard design needs to be better than the current offering. I've had four different keyboards replaced on three different MacBook and MacBook Pros after they begin shipping their computers with butterfly switches in 2015. All in all, this has been the most troublesome computers in the history of my experience with Mac. I remember a few DOAs with the white MacBook when they switched to Intel in 2006, but ten years later they seem to have changed too fast and focused on many things at the same time instead of adopting new technologies at an evolutionary pace. Revolutions aren't required when you already have a good product at hand.
I still like Apple, but I am getting impatient with how much clutter they have dragged into their products in the last three years. I liked the iPhone X, but it is somewhat bug-ridden, and sometimes feels a bit beta, the same you may say regarding the new MacBook Pros. Mine has been to the Apple Care a couple of times. Replaced blown speakers, motherboard, keyboard and battery. Apple still seems to have the best idea, but the execution has been somewhat flawed in the last half of this decade.
So is there definitely going to be an iPad event in march? Anyone know when it is?
That is correct. The 2017 keyboard (on the new MB at least) is a noticeable improvement. Still some way to go though.
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I doubt it, I find the larger size is easier to use; I don't know why some people don't like it.
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Exactly this! Me too.
Me too want to know
[doublepost=1519870485][/doublepost]http://laptopmedia.com/highlights/here-are-all-the-upcoming-intel-coffee-lake-h-cpus-for-laptops/
Hope you guys saw this..just sharing...
Agreed, but I'd wishfully add 6-core/12-thread CPU and 1060 equivalent dgpu. If it requires going back to the 2012-2015 form factor for thermals/battery considerations I'd probably be ok with that too.
They've been working on ideas regarding haptic feedback on virtual touch control surfaces for several years now. Touch Bar, the reduced key travel, and enlarged Trackpad seem to be the first steps towards realizing these goals. So i think anyone still pining for function keys and big squishy keyboards and smaller trackpads to come back are barking up the wrong tree:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...rface-supporting-a-virtual-keyboard-more.html
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...mart-bezels-live-reconfigurable-macbooks.html
and other 2011 stuff:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...-flat-keyless-keyboard-for-desktops-more.html
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...ds-using-an-advanced-air-feedback-system.html
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...earch-into-motion-keyboards-for-macbooks.html
Leaks of a new quad core chip with iris graphics and most likely 28w TDP. Wonder when we'll finally see this in 13" macbooks...
https://wccftech.com/intel-10nm-ice-lake-cannonlake-14nm-coffee-lake-cpus-spotted/
i7-8559U looks like the most likely candidate for 13" MBPs
Really torn if I'll go 13" or 15" this next time around, though.
https://wccftech.com/intel-10nm-ice-lake-cannonlake-14nm-coffee-lake-cpus-spotted/
i7-8559U looks like the most likely candidate for 13" MBPs
Really torn if I'll go 13" or 15" this next time around, though.
I would be totally sold on a 13" if Apple made a retina display to plug it in to. That's the only factor making it a hard decision.