That is not an APU. That is a CPU + a dGPU + VRAM on a mezzanine with power management.
Vega mobile would be a dGPU, not an APU.
Ryzen mobile is an APU with real Vega (without VRAM, so it does not have HBCC).
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Vega mobile would be a dGPU, not an APU.
Ryzen mobile is an APU with real Vega (without VRAM, so it does not have HBCC).
I think these TDP limitations are why we're likely to see the Vega M part in the Macbook Pros.
I want to trash my tbMBP 15'' 2016. I happy on my purchase something like 20 percents.
I wish Apple to improve in next gen:
-make integral graphic compared with Iris Pro from 2012-2015 gen mbprs in terms of performance/power consumption level(I struggle UI lags)
-battery life
-return possibility to choose mbp 15'' with functional keys row(I hate touchbar)
-32 gb LPDDR4
-MagSafe
-changes in keyboard
-Apple logo lights
-repair f***** wifi drivers on bootcamp
Knowing the path Apple've chosen I understand that it would never happen.
If there was any possibility for me to use Win instead of macOS, I would never return to this crap.
P.S. Previously happy mb air 13'' 2013 user.
I wish Apple to improve in next gen:
-make integral graphic compared with Iris Pro from 2012-2015 gen mbprs in terms of performance/power consumption level(I struggle UI lags)
-battery life
-return possibility to choose mbp 15'' with functional keys row(I hate touchbar)
-32 gb LPDDR4
-MagSafe
-changes in keyboard
-Apple logo lights
-repair f***** wifi drivers on bootcamp
Knowing the path Apple've chosen I understand that it would never happen.
If there was any possibility for me to use Win instead of macOS, I would never return to this crap.
P.S. Previously happy mb air 13'' 2013 user.
You probably will get one or two of those.
You'll get battery life. You won't get function keys on 15". LPDDR4 is an Intel problem. Magsafe (something I also love) is probably dead. Apple logo lights are gone.
Reality is, though, you'll stick around if you value macOS, the best part of any Mac
You'll get battery life. You won't get function keys on 15". LPDDR4 is an Intel problem. Magsafe (something I also love) is probably dead. Apple logo lights are gone.
Reality is, though, you'll stick around if you value macOS, the best part of any Mac
If you are very very lucky, the only two of those you'll get this year will be changes to the kb and wifi drivers fixed in bootcamp.
...and the bootcamp one I wouldn't even be so sure of.
...and the bootcamp one I wouldn't even be so sure of.
I think battery life improvement is a real possibility.
I really hope so. I'm still bitter that they thought losing 25% of the battery was a good idea.
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I’d like to see the pros equal the air on 12h of realistic usage... perhaps eventually even beyond that but probably not until we see icelake or apple’s own chips in them
You're probably right, especially if Apple tries to redesign the case to be thinner, negating any Kaby Lake R improvements.
Surprised this wasn't brought up yet, but AMD announced new OEM 500X series GPUs. https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-l...ies-GPUs-for-desktop-and-mobile.296902.0.html
These are basic rebadges so if Apple uses these it would mean a 0% increase in GPU performance since 2017. Hopefully they are holding out for better offerings before the next update but I'm not sure anything will materialize from AMD before the fall of this year.
These are basic rebadges so if Apple uses these it would mean a 0% increase in GPU performance since 2017. Hopefully they are holding out for better offerings before the next update but I'm not sure anything will materialize from AMD before the fall of this year.
I mentioned it another thread. There are also non-RX parts with only 64-bit memory bus (VRAM bandwidth also depends on memory chip speed).
The specs also show an increase in boost clock, and some don't show a base. This might just mean that the process is improved so that AMD is more comfortable in reaching certain targets and apply regardless of the X currently, not that these parts are better binned. The X helps to market new systems, while it could be a problem for card makers.
I think a laptop that was already on sale with the X has a bumped clock compared to another from last year without it.
If the 2018s don’t get the improvements we’re looking for, would it still be completely insane to get a 2015 15”?
I do like (not love) my 2015 13” so far, but of course I only do Illustrator and Wordpress/Squarespace on it. Miss my iMac 27” 2015 but not enough to go out and replace it. Portability still big for me as a solo biz owner (gets boring staying at home).
Still waiting for the 2018 release, just wondering what is the most rational decision. I know I’ve asked it before to different opinions,but I realised I never considered that the 2018 MBP might still be crappy..
I do like (not love) my 2015 13” so far, but of course I only do Illustrator and Wordpress/Squarespace on it. Miss my iMac 27” 2015 but not enough to go out and replace it. Portability still big for me as a solo biz owner (gets boring staying at home).
Still waiting for the 2018 release, just wondering what is the most rational decision. I know I’ve asked it before to different opinions,but I realised I never considered that the 2018 MBP might still be crappy..
I am going to buy a 2015 13" if the 2018s don't improve. I use a 2015 15" for work. What do you dislike about the 13"?
The screen is a little small for me but I’m transitioning from a 27” so that’s on me. Also would like more RAM on it, that’s about it. Because I use Illustrator and some task management programs but I didn’t max out the specs back then Cus I didn’t use it primarily for designing.
But I do like the 2015s. Maybe the weight too, lighter!
Not insane, but possibly suboptimal. The CPU and GPU increases in the 2016 and 2017 models where rather forgettable (in the 5-10% range I believe), but if everything that we currently believe about what the 2018 models are about to get is true, then we're looking at a 40% or possibly even higher CPU performance increase compared to the 2017 models (according to pretty much all the leaked benchmarks), and even more so when comparing them to the 2015 models. The 2015 models are still fine right now but this is a big leap when we talk about future proofing. And that's without even taking all the other improvements of the 2016 and 2017 models into consideration (much better speakers, improved screen that can get brighter and has a larger color space, faster SSDs, T1/(possibly) T2 chips for more security, Touch ID, much thinner, lighter and therefore more portable which is another factor you mentioned is important to you, and so on).
If it's a reasonable decision would also largely come down to what you're paying for it. If you're getting a great deal on the 2015 one and are paying, for example, less than half of the price of what the respective 2018 models will cost, that would sound like a solid deal. But if we're only talking about a couple hundred $/€ price difference for a device that you would probably use for many years to come, then I'd rather swallow that additional cost now than potentially having to upgrade a few years earlier which might easily compensate the savings you'd make with the 2015 model right now.
It was, two or three pages ago. I sent back a 2017 model in February because I thought since mobile Vega is announced, Apple will likely use those in the next update, and the Radeon Pro 500 series was already a rebrand of the 400. If the 500X series will be used, I won't buy this year's model either. I know that Coffee Lake-H promises a big performance jump, but I don't want to pay more than 3000 euro for a device that uses a two year old GPU.
Thank you. Great reply.
Of course I’m only considering if the MBP 2018s don’t end up being a considerable improvement.
Still waiting!!!
Maybe consider using an external display? Should work great, you get the real estate, and the portability when you need it.
Mobile Vega was not announced.
Mobile Ryzen with Vega is shipping.
A mobile Intel MCM with an AMD dGPU marketed as Vega is shipping.
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They basically just said they are working on it. Duh.
That’s the plan, to get the MBP2018 and a 4K display. But do you mean the 2015 or 2018?
I’m asking because I’m worried the 2018 won’t live up to the expectations haha. Hate the waiting.
Concerning 4k displays I can only recommend ones between 21" and 24"... unless you go TV size and run it NON-Retina.
Due to the nature of macOS's scaling other sizes will not be ideal!!!
(see https://bjango.com/articles/macexternaldisplays/ )
I bought this to run with my late 2013 rMBP and it looks really good (once I realised I was scaling wrong and changed it to work with the Retina output). I'm tempted to upgrade to the Ultrafine when I get the 2018 rMBP.
Oops wrong link.
http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27UD68P
[doublepost=1523538252][/doublepost]Actually, just reading the above link suggests that I should have gone smaller than the 27" monitor then. Oops.
Also, further digging suggests it's better to connect via DP than HDMI, is that right? I only have 2 TB ports and an HDMI port on my machine. Should I get a new cable for this? Any recommendation or advice?
Oops wrong link.
http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27UD68P
[doublepost=1523538252][/doublepost]Actually, just reading the above link suggests that I should have gone smaller than the 27" monitor then. Oops.
Also, further digging suggests it's better to connect via DP than HDMI, is that right? I only have 2 TB ports and an HDMI port on my machine. Should I get a new cable for this? Any recommendation or advice?
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The only perf differences between last year's mobile GPUs and this years "X" versions will be from the fact that they ship with newer drivers that have fixes/optimisations that came out between last year and this year. Anandtech covers it here.
Even on AMD's site (scroll down see) they are literally listing the specs as identical.
Disappointing as the mobile 500 series were themselves rebrands of the 400 series (but at least got some minor clock increases).
Even on AMD's site (scroll down see) they are literally listing the specs as identical.
Disappointing as the mobile 500 series were themselves rebrands of the 400 series (but at least got some minor clock increases).