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That’s the plan, to get the MBP2018 and a 4K display. But do you mean the 2015 or 2018?

I’m asking because I’m worried the 2018 won’t live up to the expectations haha. Hate the waiting.

I was talking about using it with your current MBP as it works quite well as you said. If it does what it needs to do, then why upgrade now? ;)

I also am waiting for the 2018 updates. If nothing impresses me, I'll go for the 13" MacBook Air, 8GB, 256GB version. The ports and the keyboard are important for me, and since I have a 24" display, the screen is not an issue.
 
The only perf differences between last year's mobile GPUs and this years "X" versions will be from the fact that they ship with newer drivers that have fixes/optimisations that came out between last year and this year. Anandtech covers it here.

Even on AMD's site (scroll down see) they are literally listing the specs as identical.

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Disappointing as the mobile 500 series were themselves rebrands of the 400 series (but at least got some minor clock increases).
There is one boost clock difference. This might just be a specification adjustment and not reflect any improvement.

400 to 500 was a refresh. 500 to 500X looks like a rebrand.
 
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I guess this means it's pretty much guaranteed now that the new MacBook Pros won't have Vega.

The silver lining though is that new MacBook Pros will likely be coming sooner rather than later, albeit with essentially 2016 era Polaris GPUs.

So, I'd say we should look for a MacBook Pro update May or June (WWDC).
 
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I guess this means it's pretty much guaranteed now that the new MacBook Pros won't have Vega.

The silver lining though is that new MacBook Pros will likely be coming sooner rather than later, albeit with essentially 2016 era Polaris GPUs.

So, I'd say we should look for a MacBook Pro update May or June (WWDC).

Hopefully with a new keyboard.
 
I guess this means it's pretty much guaranteed now that the new MacBook Pros won't have Vega.

The silver lining though is that new MacBook Pros will likely be coming sooner rather than later, albeit with essentially 2016 era Polaris GPUs.

So, I'd say we should look for a MacBook Pro update May or June (WWDC).
There is still some hope for Vega mobile this year.

These 500X parts are just Spring cleaning.

And the 500 series has old non-RX 520 and 530 parts, while the 500X series has non-RX 540X parts.
 
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I was talking about using it with your current MBP as it works quite well as you said. If it does what it needs to do, then why upgrade now? ;)

I also am waiting for the 2018 updates. If nothing impresses me, I'll go for the 13" MacBook Air, 8GB, 256GB version. The ports and the keyboard are important for me, and since I have a 24" display, the screen is not an issue.

Ah. Because I’m sharing one MBP between me and my husband, since I sold my 27” iMac. So I need an extra mbp anyway, just that I sold it at a weird time so I have to wait to see the 2018s. Then I thought what if the 2018s didn’t meet expectations, would the 2015 15” be better. Haha!

I need 16GB ram, and would prolly get a 21” 4K either way...

But MBP2018 hurry up already!!
 
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There is one boost clock difference. This might just be a specification adjustment and not reflect any improvement.

400 to 500 was a refresh. 500 to 500X looks like a rebrand.
I'm guessing And doesn't sell many of these other than to Apple? Perhaps the strategy here is they have a different solution for Apple this year and so this isn't very meaningful.
 
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I'm guessing And doesn't sell many of these other than to Apple? Perhaps the strategy here is they have a different solution for Apple this year and so this isn't very meaningful.
Apple could still use some version of Kaby Lake G, maybe not really Vega, but still fast (and Apple does not care about DX 12_1, at least from the Windows point of view).
 
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There is still some hope for Vega mobile this year.

These 500X parts are just Spring cleaning.

And the 500 series has old non-RX 520 and 530 parts, while the 500X series has non-RX 540X parts.
It doesn't seem very likely at all, unless Apple decides to wait until Q4 2018 or something like that for Vega mobile.

Given that the quad and hex-core mobile chips are here and that 500X series chips are here too, and it's almost a year since the last MacBook Pro release, it makes sense for Apple to release sooner rather than later. Apple would sell a boatload of machines just based on the fact they have more CPU cores.

The MacBook non-Pro will likely get nothing at all in the very near term though, although there is the hypothetical new 13" version.
 
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Ah. Because I’m sharing one MBP between me and my husband, since I sold my 27” iMac. So I need an extra mbp anyway, just that I sold it at a weird time so I have to wait to see the 2018s. Then I thought what if the 2018s didn’t meet expectations, would the 2015 15” be better. Haha!

I need 16GB ram, and would prolly get a 21” 4K either way...

But MBP2018 hurry up already!!

Ah so if you need a new one anyway, my advice would be to get a 2018 MBP if they change the keyboard. If you dont have a problem with the ports, then thats the device for you. If they dont change the keyboard(I stress this because the current ones have a HUGE issue), and you need the ports, and would prefer to save a few bucks, the 2015 one would be great. Its still an amazing machine.
 
I'm guessing And doesn't sell many of these other than to Apple?
Well, if they don't sell a lot of mobile dGPUs (besides Kaby), AMD would not need a lot of HBM2, and then that's maybe why they were talking about Vega mobile and not cheaper desktop. Plus, mining farms would not buy laptops.
 
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Apple could still use some version of Kaby Lake G, maybe not really Vega, but still fast (and Apple does not care about DX 12_1, at least from the Windows point of view).

They don't even care about OpenGL ever since Metal made it's debut
 
This is going to be the deciding factor for me but I am not very optimistic after the rumours from earlier in the year that there will be no redesign for 2018.

That's exactly all Apple will deliver spec bump and look to improve the reliability of the keyboard. There wont be any significant change outside the CPU, Apple will just do as little as it can get away with...

Q-6
 
That's exactly all Apple will deliver spec bump and look to improve the reliability of the keyboard. There wont be any significant change outside the CPU, Apple will just do as little as it can get away with...

Q-6

Agreed..
Everyone is busy building the MacPro and rushing to make a cheaper HomePod people actually might want and find value in....along with the usual hoard busy making a new, slightly different, iPhone color for the Fall from LaCoste ..... err, I mean "Apple".
 
This is going to be the deciding factor for me but I am not very optimistic after the rumours from earlier in the year that there will be no redesign for 2018.
It wouldn't require a redesign though to completely fix the keyboard. In fact I'd rather have them fix the current one before trying to engineer a new one that's possibly even thinner and might come with its own set of issues.
 
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Without an improvement to GPU performance I'll be sitting this update out.

Continuing to work on old hardware means Ice Lake can't come soon enough.
 
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I'd rather they just put the magic keyboard in there
As someone who really likes the feel of the Magic Keyboard I agree, but that would require a redesign to at least some extend since they would have to make the entire chassis bigger (and it seems rather unlikely in general that they add back some height to it after going through all the effort to make it so thin). So it's pretty much out of the question for now.
 
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As someone who really likes the feel of the Magic Keyboard I agree, but that would require a redesign to at least some extend since they would have to make the entire chassis bigger (and it seems rather unlikely in general that they add back some height to it after going through all the effort to make it so thin). So it's pretty much out of the question for now.

We don't really know how much of any of that is true…
Modern Apple is getting really really hard to predict…

About the only thing I can count all the time it's some weird new variation on the color black
 
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Without an improvement to GPU performance I'll be sitting this update out.

Continuing to work on old hardware means Ice Lake can't come soon enough.
What do you do with your computer? For most people the CPU is more important, but for some other people, the GPU is just as important if not more.
 
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Without an improvement to GPU performance I'll be sitting this update out.

Continuing to work on old hardware means Ice Lake can't come soon enough.
Isn't Cannon Lake supposed to come first though? Or is there a particular reason why you want to skip Cannon Lake (which also seems like a rather big update) and upgrade to the iteration after it instead?
 
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Isn't Cannon Lake supposed to come first though? Or is there a particular reason why you want to skip Cannon Lake (which also seems like a rather big update) and upgrade to the iteration after it instead?

Cannonlake might not get 45W (H-Series) processors released. These would be the appropriate candidates for the 15-inch MacBook Pro. If they do produce the right processors with improved GPUs included I'd jump in but it looks like Ice Lake might be the next product released in time for the 2019 update.

If 45W Cannonlake CPUs ship before the end of this year it would burn anyone buying this release as better AMD GPUs will likely be included as well as native support of LPDDR4, and for 32 GB total. This might play out like in 2011 with the "early" and "late" releases. The Coffee Lake MBP looks like the one to skip.
 
Cannonlake might not get 45W (H-Series) processors released. These would be the appropriate candidates for the 15-inch MacBook Pro. If they do produce the right processors with improved GPUs included I'd jump in but it looks like Ice Lake might be the next product released in time for the 2019 update.

If 45W Cannonlake CPUs ship before the end of this year it would burn anyone buying this release as better AMD GPUs will likely be included as well as native support of LPDDR4, and for 32 GB total. This might play out like in 2011 with the "early" and "late" releases. The Coffee Lake MBP looks like the one to skip.

What about for 13”?
 
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