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Waiting for the 2018 MBP

argentum47 said:
That they didn't even mention TB during WWDC and no signs of TB coming to iMacs (including iMac Pro), I think, is a good sign :rolleyes:
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That is a really good point I had not considered. And yes I agree that is good news. I for one don't believe their marketing guff about selling loads of TB laptops.

asoksevil said:
Realistically speaking, how much is the performance increase of Coffee Lake compare to Kaby Lake? Like Kaby Lake was over Skylake? My 2010 MBA is already on its limits... I'm not sure if I could wait another year.
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There is talk of 30% on some benchmarks. Also more cores. CoffeeLake should deliver quad core 13" laptops and hex core 15" hopefully. So it should be a step-change.
 
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The Mercurian said:
That is a really good point I had not considered. And yes I agree that is good news. I for one don't believe their marketing guff about selling loads of TB laptops.
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What they are going to do with the TB? Add a function keys back? No way. This would indicate a clear mistake in the design choise and also they would pretty much admit that they would need to be a touch-screen MBP. (Which ain't happening any time soon)

All e-ink keyboard or oled keys? Maybe. But for this we are probably looking 2019-2020.
 
HerbertDerb said:
What they are going to do with the TB? Add a function keys back? No way. This would indicate a clear mistake in the design choise and also they would pretty much admit that they would need to be a touch-screen MBP. (Which ain't happening any time soon)

All e-ink keyboard or oled keys? Maybe. But for this we are probably looking 2019-2020.
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I don't know honestly. But normally with new feature they say " New wonder-feature XXX has been a marvellous success helping our customers to create A, B, C....blah blah corporate marketo-speak".

That they didn't says alot given the big deal they introduced it as.
 
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2018 MacBook Pro will be THE One.

- 10-bit HDR 120hz display, iPad Pro has it and the OLED IPhone 8 will have it and the Macs and Mac Pros has it. Guess who gets it next.
- DDR4 it's a must have moving 4K files and programs. 32GB please
- Coffee Lake CPU 4-Core 8 Threads 30% better than Kaby look it up.
- improved Touch Bar.
- New battery design
- Fix the Giant Touch Pad
 
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calling this thread 2018 doesn't make sense since there may be an Oct release. There is a specific rumor around Q4 -Specifically October release from a reputable source for a more power user oriented 32gb machine. The old name "waiting for Cannonlake/ Coffeelake is better

OR...just rename it "The waiting for what's next thread...." :)
 
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HerbertDerb said:
What they are going to do with the TB? Add a function keys back? No way. This would indicate a clear mistake in the design choise and also they would pretty much admit that they would need to be a touch-screen MBP. (Which ain't happening any time soon)
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Why not? They already apologized for the MacPro fiasco...

Would be enough if they add a 15" nonTB, and add touchID to all laptops, regardless of the presence of TB.

BTW IMHO they are right not to add touchscreen, it is just not ergonomic...
 
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ZapNZs said:
We should have a sticky for the 2019 and 2020 MacBook Pros as well :D
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Add a few years to that as well. Way things are going with MBP, we might never see a real 'pro' laptop from Apple :(
 
gadgetfreaky said:
calling this thread 2018 doesn't make sense since there may be an Oct release. There is a specific rumor around Q4 -Specifically October release from a reputable source for a more power user oriented 32gb machine. The old name "waiting for Cannonlake/ Coffeelake is better

OR...just rename it "The waiting for what's next thread...." :)
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Apple removed the mid early late branding from the 2016 very purposefully. And the 2017 is the same. They could do something silly like car manufacturers saying "2017.2" but that's pretty messy. I'd love to be surprised but I think we are officially in the era of the MBP "s" supercycle. One update per year across all product lines.
 
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ugru said:
Terraced battery. They had tech problems last year, i.e. 8/10 months ago, on a technology that they are already using with no problems on the MB....I do not believe it.

They just don't care to increase battery capacity because they will always settle for mid level hardware and next year LPDDR4 will be available
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It's possible they added terraced batteries to the 2017 versions and neglected to mention it because it would be an admission that they screwed up with the 2016 models.
 
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benface said:
- 32 GB of DDR4 RAM
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I don't think that Coffee Lake supports LPDDR4 RAM, you're still still looking at LPDD3 and 16GB at that. If you want 32GB on the laptop you're possibly looking at Cannon Lake, which may be 2019, or with luck late 2018? Maybe Apple will skip Coffee Lake altogether... But what you may see in Coffee Lake is 6 cores.
 
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The Coffee Lake speed up is ONLY on the 13" (and only if Apple chooses to use the chip - dual cores will remain available). It relies on exchanging a dual core chip for a low power, lower clocked quad. If the software uses all four cores, the quad will be significantly faster for the same power draw. A lot of Mac software runs pretty well on quad cores, so the quad is likely to be a serious improvement if Apple uses it (although it will very likely HURT for games due to the low clock speed).

There MAY also be a six-core that fits in the 15" power envelope, but it could very well be a more expensive chip than Apple typically uses, AND a LOT of Mac software scales poorly beyond 4 cores. Many Photoshop operations are actually faster on the fastest 4 core iMac than the most expensive 12 core Mac Pro, because they use the extra cores little enough that the iMac's faster cores are more important.

32 GB is key at this point - there is no expensive Windows laptop that is stuck at 16 GB...
 
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HerbertDerb said:
What they are going to do with the TB? Add a function keys back? No way. This would indicate a clear mistake in the design choise and also they would pretty much admit that they would need to be a touch-screen MBP. (Which ain't happening any time soon)
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Plenty. They could add force touch and haptic feedback. This would remove issues with accidental key activations and make it feel closer to real keys. If they added those, it would actually remove my last reservations about the touch bar.
 
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The Mercurian said:
There is talk of 30% on some benchmarks. Also more cores. CoffeeLake should deliver quad core 13" laptops and hex core 15" hopefully. So it should be a step-change.
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They will keep the 2core versions for nTB and entry level TB 13 inchers.
The 4core 8 threads proc will come as an extra. Another 300-400 USD to add to the price, and only on the higher level 13" TB.
And will most likely be clocked lower that his 2core siblings.
 
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muratura said:
They will keep the 2core versions for nTB and entry level TB 13 inchers.
The 4core 8 threads proc will come as an extra. Another 300-400 USD to add to the price, and only on the higher level 13" TB.
And will most likely be clocked lower that his 2core siblings.
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Well...maybe. If their competitors push the higher core options at good prices they would have no choice but to follow suit. Yeah the lower clocking thing could be an issue for me - some of us still like our GHz
 
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The Mercurian said:
- some of us still like our GHz
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:)
Depends on what apps you use and how optimized are for multiple threads. Overall the no of cores should beat the GHz in performance (no source, just my feel atm).

If AAPL decides to put 4cores in the 13" it could also cannibalize some of its 15" market. Unless they jump those to 6cores...
I have many colleagues that went with the 15" just for the added power for compiling and DB work, but some of them complain that it's harder to carry around and has a small battery life. A 4core 13" would loosen their wallets and have them switch over from the 15s easily.
 
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muratura said:
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Depends on what apps you use and how optimized are for multiple threads. Overall the no of cores should beat the GHz in performance (no source, just my feel atm).

If AAPL decides to put 4cores in the 13" it could also cannibalize some of its 15" market. Unless they jump those to 6cores...
I have many colleagues that went with the 15" just for the added power for compiling and DB work, but some of them complain that it's harder to carry around and has a small battery life. A 4core 13" would loosen their wallets and have them switch over from the 15s easily.
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Or they will just move to 6 core 15inch to get even more gains in compile times. I feel like even modern quad-core 15inch laptops are not enough for over bloated multi project solutions.
 
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