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Sgt93 said:
I’m ready to upgrade. My Mid 09 MacBook Pro is finally ready to retire. It has been a great machine. 😀
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how the f did you manage to last that long 😱?!?!?!

My mid 2012 was super slow in 2016!

You must be a tech god to have magicked your computer into living so long. Or you never updated macOS. Updating macOS I still maintain is what slowed my computer and no amount of clean installs fixed it.
 
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The Reasonable One said:
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how the f did you manage to last that long 😱?!?!?!

My mid 2012 was super slow in 2016!

You must be a tech god to have magicked your computer into living so long. Or you never updated macOS. Updating macOS I still maintain is what slowed my computer and no amount of clean installs fixed it.
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I'm on a mid 2010, only a year after that persons. When you put an SSD into these old unibody macs and double the ram they will last a very long time for basic computing and even medium weight tasks. I photoshop on mine. Little to no lag in daily use and it boots up quickly. Did you have an SSD and 8+ gigs of ram in your 2012?

My 2010 is also ready to retire, but not because it stopped working, I'm just looking to do new things on it that it can't handle. I will really miss it and I think many of us around here are aware that there will never again be macs of the quality that we saw during those years. It is highly unlikely that my next MBP will serve me nearly 9 years as well as this one has.
 
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MrGunnyPT said:
Gonna wait out till July to pick up te new models, want to see some tear downs and feedback from the forums before putting my neck out.
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Smart thing to do, not to mention any early adopter bugs n early batches.
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The Reasonable One said:
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how the f did you manage to last that long 😱?!?!?!

My mid 2012 was super slow in 2016!

You must be a tech god to have magicked your computer into living so long. Or you never updated macOS. Updating macOS I still maintain is what slowed my computer and no amount of clean installs fixed it.
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I have an almost 18 year old PowerBook G4 I bought off Ebay running Mac OS 10.1.5 and Mac OS 9.2.2.

If you care it, you can get a good life span out of it.
 
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ozreth said:
I'm on a mid 2010, only a year after that persons. When you put an SSD into these old unibody macs and double the ram they will last a very long time for basic computing and even medium weight tasks. I photoshop on mine. Little to no lag in daily use and it boots up quickly. Did you have an SSD and 8+ gigs of ram in your 2012?
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Yah my 2012 is a Retina MacBook Pro with an ssd and 16 GB RAM
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Mr. Dee said:
Smart thing to do, not to mention any early adopter bugs n early batches.
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I have an almost 18 year old PowerBook G4 I bought off Ebay running Mac OS 10.1.5 and Mac OS 9.2.2.

If you care it, you can get a good life span out of it.
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That's the weird thing. I've never dropped it or anything. Never installed bloatware or adware or anything like that. I've clean installed and it hasn't fixed anything. This is just ridiulous. I must have just been unlucky as I've had 2 graphics based failures in this machine. The second time (february) it wasn't worth fixing. The first time I complained enough and Apple fixed it free of charge out of warranty. I've only gotten a max of 3 years before something went wrong on it. Also the slowness became worse on macOS High Sierra. I wish I stayed on Sierra. At least it didn't break on that version.
 
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The Reasonable One said:
Yah my 2012 is a Retina MacBook Pro with an ssd and 16 GB RAM
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That's the weird thing. I've never dropped it or anything. Never installed bloatware or adware or anything like that. I've clean installed and it hasn't fixed anything. This is just ridiulous. I must have just been unlucky as I've had 2 graphics based failures in this machine. The second time (february) it wasn't worth fixing. The first time I complained enough and Apple fixed it free of charge out of warranty. I've only gotten a max of 3 years before something went wrong on it. Also the slowness became worse on macOS High Sierra. I wish I stayed on Sierra. At least it didn't break on that version.
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2009 and 2011 appear to be the worst years for the MacBook Pro, some hardware issue or another affected those models. Its ironic too, considering the unibody models were first introduced in 2008 and you hardly ever heard any complaints about them.
 
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Mr. Dee said:
2009 and 2011 appear to be the worst years for the MacBook Pro, some hardware issue or another affected those models. Its ironic too, considering the unibody models were first introduced in 2008 and you hardly ever heard any complaints about them.
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Yah. Even my 09 I had to clean install an older os on because Apple let it upgrade much further than it should have been possible to.

2009 has no hardware failures but my 2012 has a host of them. Still i consider Apple top notch in terms of if you complain enough and prove it’s their fault you’ll get your computer effectively replaced. So I guess that’s nice.
 
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Hey, Vega Mobile seems to be ready in time for next week! The Acer Helios 500 is now stating it's shipping with a Vega 56, and since the desktop card is a 150W beast, it's very unlikely that they're using that one (especially considering they're already using a desktop CPU).

When asking Acer about that model, Notebookcheck.com got the reply that we will receive more information at Computex next week. This could be great!

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series-features/predatorhelios500
 
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Poki said:
Hey, Vega Mobile seems to be ready in time for next week! The Acer Helios 500 is now stating it's shipping with a Vega 56, and since the desktop card is a 150W beast, it's very unlikely that they're using that one (especially considering they're already using a desktop CPU).

When asking Acer about that model, Notebookcheck.com got the reply that we will receive more information at Computex next week. This could be great!

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series-features/predatorhelios500
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Poki you are a god for giving us hope. Thank you for your service (-)7
 
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Not long now. I’ll check Wednesday morning for what the specs are. I don’t think we’ll be getting any leaks this year.
 
Poki said:
Hey, Vega Mobile seems to be ready in time for next week! The Acer Helios 500 is now stating it's shipping with a Vega 56, and since the desktop card is a 150W beast, it's very unlikely that they're using that one (especially considering they're already using a desktop CPU).

When asking Acer about that model, Notebookcheck.com got the reply that we will receive more information at Computex next week. This could be great!

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series-features/predatorhelios500
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Apple is probably the biggest partner to AMD, and it would make sense to give Apple the right to release first Vega Mobile GPU.
 
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The AMD Radeon Vega Mobile is a dedicated graphics card for laptops. It most likely uses the same chip as the Kaby-Lake-G graphics part. Rumors currently speak of 28 CUs (= 1792 shaders) instead of the 24 CUs in the Kaby-Lake-G top model. The clock speed should be also around 1 GHz. As graphics memory, the GPU most likely also uses 4 GB HMB2.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-Vega-Mobile-GPU.278686.0.html

The power consumption should be similar to the Kaby-Lake-G chips (altough this may be more efficient due to power sharing and distribution). The Kaby-Lake-G is rated at 100 Watt including a 35-45 Watt processor.
 
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doitdada said:
The AMD Radeon Vega Mobile is a dedicated graphics card for laptops. It most likely uses the same chip as the Kaby-Lake-G graphics part. Rumors currently speak of 28 CUs (= 1792 shaders) instead of the 24 CUs in the Kaby-Lake-G top model. The clock speed should be also around 1 GHz. As graphics memory, the GPU most likely also uses 4 GB HMB2.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-Vega-Mobile-GPU.278686.0.html

The power consumption should be similar to the Kaby-Lake-G chips (altough this may be more efficient due to power sharing and distribution). The Kaby-Lake-G is rated at 100 Watt including a 35-45 Watt processor.
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The chips in the Kaby Lake G parts aren't "true" Vega, i.e. they do not support all decoding features the Vega architecture should be capable of. I expect the actual Vega chips to be even more efficient. Having said that, Kaby G "GL" chips have a 65W TDP, which means 45W for the CPU and just 20W for the GPU. So I guess they could probably push the "GH" GPUs into the 35W TDP budget.
 
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The Reasonable One said:
how the f did you manage to last that long 😱?!?!?!

My mid 2012 was super slow in 2016!

You must be a tech god to have magicked your computer into living so long. Or you never updated macOS. Updating macOS I still maintain is what slowed my computer and no amount of clean installs fixed it.
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Well. I have a functioning 09 MacBook Pro as well. Just put an SSD and 8 GB of ram in it. I even run High Sierra without much trouble. It is a bit slow now so I will replace it with the 18’ MacBook Pro.
 
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The Reasonable One said:
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how the f did you manage to last that long 😱?!?!?!

My mid 2012 was super slow in 2016!

You must be a tech god to have magicked your computer into living so long. Or you never updated macOS. Updating macOS I still maintain is what slowed my computer and no amount of clean installs fixed it.
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I laughed pretty hard reading your response; I appreciate the laugh.

Adding a SSD and maxing memory has helped. I even run Adobe CS on it and it works pretty well. The battery doesn’t hold a charge for very long and it is starting to run hot, but as a whole, it has been a great system. I’m retired (for now at least) so I’m not killing it with daily work, but for the most part the longevity has been due to a lot of help coming from this forum.

It will be nice to get some current OS on it though lol.
 
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Just out of curiosity, if they were to upgrade the MBP this year, what processor would they most likely implement in the new machines? I haven't been keeping up on Intel's roadmap, and lost all track tbh.
 
meteoreos said:
Just out of curiosity, if they were to upgrade the MBP this year, what processor would they most likely implement in the new machines? I haven't been keeping up on Intel's roadmap, and lost all track tbh.
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Intel Coffeelake, 8th generation. The anticipation is, 13 inch models will see 4 cores for the first time, while 15 inch will see 6 cores.
 
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I think a lot of people are forgetting that WWDC is mainly software focused, last year was a big exception when they updated a lot of stuff including the Mac’s but that doesn’t mean they will do the same again this year.

Personally I would love an update to the 12" MacBook but I’m not holding my breath, I really need to update from my current 2011 MacBook Pro.

There is a part of me that wishes Apple would do something different like Microsoft have been doing with the Surface range.
 
I'm on the market for a new MBP.

My only concern is the keyboard... I'm wondering, will they be able to tweak it, as a response to the recent complaints?

And how likely is a spec bump, with no rumours...? Could it be october??

P.S. I'm on a spec-bumped 2009 13' macbook pro (ssd, 8gb ram). Will new Apple computers ever last this long??
 
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