I agree with wanting thinner bezels. It would be really cool if they could switch to 14 and 16" screens in the current form factors. In fact, most of the things I'd wish for are not spec related at all. Silent keyboard. Smaller trackpad. Clean up the internals. Remove the touch bar. And maybe allow for a dGPU in the 14". For me, they could drop the web cam as well.
A 16" 4K screen would be very nice though...
Idk, 4K would mean a native @2x resolution of 1920x1200, which looks tiny on the 15.4” screen - I don’t see .6” making too much of a difference to that? Think that resolution would shine on a revived 17.3” though!
Hey, when it comes to screen size, I'll take every millimetre I can get. I'm just trying to limit my disappointment when Apple DON'T release a newly designed 17" dream machine, and instead decide that 15" is too big for the fashionable lady/man-purse, and go to 12"-14" MBPs.
Well then prepare to be devastated. There's zero chance that MBP 2018 will have a Turing GPU, and it doesn't really make sense to expect that. What you might expect is Vega Mobile, while still not a guarantee it makes a lot more sense to expect.Hey, when it comes to screen size, I'll take every millimetre I can get. I'm just trying to limit my disappointment when Apple DON'T release a newly designed 17" dream machine, and instead decide that 15" is too big for the fashionable lady/man-purse, and go to 12"-14" MBPs.
I'm reverse-jynx-ing it so it doesn't happen
Anyways, if MBPs are updated later in the year, like oct-nov, I'd be devastated if they didn't have a Turing GPU (I don't think Navi will be ready until next year, same with Cannon Lake). If not, why the hell would it take so long?
Well of course I'm going to be devastated. At this point, the chances of Apple releasing a MBP with decent specifications using new tech is zero. Vega Mobile would give decent performance, but no CUDA would continue to be devastating. And, considering the likely TDP of mobile Vega (based on the TDPs of the Intel+Vega Kaby Lake G, which are only quad core) I wouldn't be all the surprised if we don't even get that.
Apple doesn’t make gamer/workstation class laptops. There’s about a 20-25W power budget for the GPU in the 15” MBP.
Vega mobile would be equally new to a Turing if that's your benchmark. If you're of the view that Turing equals decent, and anything non-Turing is garbage, then I have no idea why you're looking at Apple at all. And you're not managing your own expectations very rationally. Plus, you'd have to say that 100% of laptops are garbage, because there aren't any others with Turing either.
Link?
any links? would love to see that..
if you cant post any proof at this moment..i consider that a 'Possibility' like many other dream specs...
Sure, the CPUs will likely be the latest. But why the delay? And during the delay, how many other non-CPU technologies will be updated? GPUs are but one obvious example. Otherwise, the longer the delay, the less time before the next major tech release comes, resulting in Windows laptops again surpassing Macs.
Quad i7 + Vega M GH, 100W
Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were looking for gaming level performance. But even 1050-class next gen is what, at least 60W. Even a 50W Vega part would need to be underclocked/throttled unless the CPU usage were low.
Not strictly true, MBPs can use more than 85W of power as they have an internal battery. My 17" 2011 MBP would happily use more than the wall charger could provide, and slowly drain the battery instead. It's not a problem if the difference is small, as it would take all day of uninterrupted high power use to drain the battery, at which point everything throttles down a negligible amount. Of course, the alternative is to simply provide a higher power mains adapter.
It's nothing to do with budget. Apple had a conflict with Nvidia, and switched to AMD GPUs. I believe the latest MBP to have CUDA capability was the mid-2014 models. With current models, I do believe an Nvidia eGPU would work for CUDA. It's either that, find an OpenCL version of your software, or use a Windows laptop. Or a hackintosh laptop if you're so inclined. Not saying you have to like Apple's decision, but it also doesn't make sense to wait for Nvidia cards in upcoming models, because it won't happen.
I don't know why there is a delay. I agree that it would have been nice to have the refresh out sooner, and I think just about everyone expected that. But at the end of the day, they will be a handful of months later than the earliest 8th gen laptops. And that's fairly consistent with what they've done in the past.
I see what you're doing here, but there's a problem with your method. First is that the TDP is for the combined CPU+GPU, not the GPU by itself. And then, you might be aware that the TDP listed by Intel does not really correspond that well to actual power draw. Plus, power draw is of course going to vary depending on how manufacturers decide to clock the chips.
The G-series have an H-series CPU, but because of the dynamic power allocation and power sharing savings it wouldn’t be correct to say the 65W part only has a 20W GPU. It all depends on the specific workload, how well the chip will perform wrt CPU vs GPU relative performance.
