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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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whatever you say.. i still consider your assumption as hearsay no matter how confident your are.
If there's an updated keyboard this year, it'd hard to imagine that they could have been able to get that done in the short amount of time since the class action lawsuit hit. With the production volume they have to hit even with their lowest selling products, things just don't turn around that fast. Realigning their supply chain and ensuring manufacturing yields don't happen overnight. They surely knew that the keyboard needed improvement or you wouldn't have seen them keep tweaking it from the MacBook to the 2016 MBP to the 2017 MBP. Even knowing that they needed to do better for the next year's model, they weren't able to fix it.
They're not going to suddenly snap their fingers and decide they'll start trying. They've been trying. They just failed.
plenty available in Australia
Does it have to be worldwide shortage to be a sign of new models coming up?
Same here in Hong Kong, my mate who is working at Apple store said there are limited supply of the 15". He was suspecting an update soon.
If so, it may not be a very interesting update, being so close to WWDC one would have expected Apple to have mentioned something, given Intel's hex core COU's are biggest thing it's done in the consumer sector in years...
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The difference is that other companies are quite happy to launch new laptops/upgrades at any time and who cares if they make a mistake. Apple are in the news for anything that they do that could be taken negatively. Other companies do far worse and attract 1% of the coverage apple do. Imagine if apple release a new macbook with overheating issues or poor battery due to thermal throttling or inefficient RAM utilisation.
Thats a whole years worth of mac sales affected, a massive recall and a huge amount of negative publicity. They stick coffee lake in a new laptop and get a small performance increase and a new chip is on the horizon and people will complain that they should have waited.
Basically apple will get a lot of complaints no matter what they do unless they somehow deliver a miracle that blows all other laptops out of the water for half the price.
Just described exactly how Apple is today. As for other marques they are equally criticised in their own realms and user forums, likely just as concerned with any issues, more so especially given the cut throat nature of the PC industry. The difference being, Apple has near limitless resources, by far the longest timelines between major updates, no competition (OS X), has full control over the hardware & software, yet Apple remains seemingly incapable of producing a MBP that is not problematic in one way or another....
Design changes can annoy, being subjective for many, however objective failures are a completely different matter, Apple's MBP has been plagued with dGPU failure, throttling, image retention, delaminating displays, now batteries & keyboards on notebooks costing up to and over $3K.
Apple is behind the curve with Coffee Lake as it needs to resolve the current keyboard issue and figure out how to power & cool far more performant CPU's delivering over 40% increase in computational performance in the MBP's diminutive chassis, without power or thermal throttling or is this just yet another corner Apple has neatly painted itself into at our cost...
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And yet they still manage to screw up fundamental components of a laptop such as the keyboard. Two years of Mac sales with the defective keyboards and a huge amount of negative publicity.
Frankly, I'm surprised a multi-billion-dollar company would need so many months to perfect a product, happily charge more for it than competing products (and $400 more than prior versions of the same product), and still end up with issues like the butterfly keyboards. It's clear that Apple's management isn't giving the MacBook Pro the resources it needs to succeed and stay competitive.
That is the price they have to pay for over pricing of computers with outdatcomponents. We are willing to pay top money but we also expect top quality products and services.
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Even Hauwei can make a thin and excellent keyboard.
If it was basically a spec bump and a fix to the butterfly keyboard, I can see why they wouldn't want to parade the machine around. However, that's still a very welcome update. Saving the bigger remodel for the machine that comes with LPDDR4 is fine by me.
i keep popping in here to read something positive. ugh
my 2010 is on life support. im not shelling out top dollar on a current MBP offering. and im not satisfied with the prices im seeing on refurbished 2015 models either. guess im just up a creek eh?
my 2010 is on life support. im not shelling out top dollar on a current MBP offering. and im not satisfied with the prices im seeing on refurbished 2015 models either. guess im just up a creek eh?
At this point you'll be lucky to get a spec bump, just a silent update to the KB.
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I would buy the top model right away if they just put something like the Huawei Matebook X PRO keyboard in the current MBP 2017.
Sadly it would also be over 40% less performant relative to it's competition, seriously negating any longterm usage & value. I own one of the first Gen Huawei MateBook X's, the keyboard is simply magnitudes better in comparison to any of Apple's recent poor offerings...
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Besides reliability issue with the current keyboard of the MBP, I also have problem is its feel and sound (sounded like tap dancing when I was typing).
Based on your experience, how is Huawei's quality and after sales services? Is it good to go for the MateBook X PRO? My concerns are: 1. They told me that if I swap the SSD to 1TB one, the warranty is voided. 2. They said that they would repair the machine 1 year later if they still have the parts.
Whenever the stock comes, it goes to back order right away.
Totally depends on your needs; MateBook X Pro is an Ultrabook, therefore one should not expect extensive performance, similar to a 13" MBP. My own MBX came with a 2 year national warranty, equally such T&C's vary geographically.
Huawei quality and after sales services has been perfect, as I've not needed to question either. Give the likes of Huawei a few years and they will be showing Apple a "clean set of heels" given the current product and relative youth in the industry...
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While I really wasn’t a fan of most hardware updates being lumped into WWDC last year, I do wish they had deigned to throw us something at WWDC this year... we’ve been a long time now with what were imperfect and not especially impressive or good value machines when they launched!
My primary hope was they would knock, even $100 or so off the prices in recognition the machines are now over a year old and a generation of chipset behind (in the absence of a meaningful hardware/ spec upgrade) and also update the exchange rate prices in countries where that is applicable - I guess that sort of gesture has gone out of fashion at Apple now