Based on what? With the recent news I’d say we’re days/weeks away not months.
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Based on what? With the recent news I’d say we’re days/weeks away not months.
Let's deduce it...
I recall Apple not selling brand new hardware in their back to school offers - so I don't think they'd release anything until that promotion is over. You can google the dates they've used in the past - it looks like they'll kick off the promotion in a week or so and have that extend into September - (2017-07-12 to 2017-09-25 / 2016-06-02 to 2016-09-05 / 2015-07-23 to 2015-09-15).
That means they could have a hardware event in September. I'd say they'd need an event if they were making anything more than spec bump hardware changes - and we're seeing hints at hardware changes (better keyboards? face id ipad?).
Given the current "every laptop we ship with a keyboard has a warranty issue" is a bit of a concern for Apple, I'd think they would try to make that event in as early September as they can. So I'll set the over under at the closest Tuesday to mid-month - that's September 18th.
I recall Apple not selling brand new hardware in their back to school offers - so I don't think they'd release anything until that promotion is over. You can google the dates they've used in the past - it looks like they'll kick off the promotion in a week or so and have that extend into September - (2017-07-12 to 2017-09-25 / 2016-06-02 to 2016-09-05 / 2015-07-23 to 2015-09-15).
That means they could have a hardware event in September. I'd say they'd need an event if they were making anything more than spec bump hardware changes - and we're seeing hints at hardware changes (better keyboards? face id ipad?).
Given the current "every laptop we ship with a keyboard has a warranty issue" is a bit of a concern for Apple, I'd think they would try to make that event in as early September as they can. So I'll set the over under at the closest Tuesday to mid-month - that's September 18th.
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Let's deduce it...
I recall Apple not selling brand new hardware in their back to school offers - so I don't think they'd release anything until that promotion is over. You can google the dates they've used in the past - it looks like they'll kick of the promotion in a week or so and have that extend into September - (2017-07-12 to 2017-09-25 / 2016-06-02 to 2016-09-05 / 2015-07-23 to 2015-09-15).
That means they could have a hardware event in September. I'd say they'd need an event if they were making anything more than spec bump hardware changes - and we're seeing hints at hardware changes (better keyboards? face id ipad?).
Given the current "every laptop we ship with a keyboard has a warranty issue" is a bit of a concern for Apple, I'd think they would try to make that event in as early September as they can. So I'll set the over under at the closest Tuesday to mid-month - that's September 18th.
What?! Not much of all that made sense. There will be an “iPad” event in October anyway so no way they’ll make an event just for Mac spec bumps. Silent update or “one more thing” is my prediction.
The product leaks on Eurasia usually announced by Apple in two weeks only except the last new iPhone (maybe se) model. The 2017 mac leaked in May 31 while announced at June 7.Let's deduce it...
I recall Apple not selling brand new hardware in their back to school offers - so I don't think they'd release anything until that promotion is over. You can google the dates they've used in the past - it looks like they'll kick of the promotion in a week or so and have that extend into September - (2017-07-12 to 2017-09-25 / 2016-06-02 to 2016-09-05 / 2015-07-23 to 2015-09-15).
That means they could have a hardware event in September. I'd say they'd need an event if they were making anything more than spec bump hardware changes - and we're seeing hints at hardware changes (better keyboards? face id ipad?).
Given the current "every laptop we ship with a keyboard has a warranty issue" is a bit of a concern for Apple, I'd think they would try to make that event in as early September as they can. So I'll set the over under at the closest Tuesday to mid-month - that's September 18th.
Think of a core as a server at a restaurant. The more you have, the better service you get, because one server doesn't have to run around to every table, there are other servers that can do that.
Also, if your table has a party of 12 people, you will be better served by 2 servers than 1.
That is not to say that the server only ever serves your table, they go around and serve a few more that they can in the given time and energy they have.
So why have dual cores at all, why would you not just choose more servers?
- Because cost, each server costs.
- Scheduling, The more the number of servers, the smarter your restaurant scheduling needs to be to be able to make use of all of them, otherwise, the confusion and chaos caused by too many servers ('Me? I thought you were taking the orders for table #5!')
- The programs, that is, you and your party at the restaurant should be able to take advantage of the multiple servers scenario. If you only ever want to be served by your one favorite server, or while taking orders, you want to order food for the whole table for sharing (instead of everyone ordering their own dinner) etc, then having multiple servers isn't going to help you that much.
Can add more stuff, but in summary:
- Quad cores == cost in terms of battery, heat, price, only useful if your favorite programs make use of it (we're getting there in terms of applications using multithreading).
For your purposes, yes, go for a quad core (or if a hex core is launched in the near future).
Can’t see MacBooks realeasing within 2 weeks of an iPhone launch if it’s a separate event, and I can’t see macs and iPhones and iPads all together in September, so either they will release, probably this month or early next, or in October in the iPads formerly traditional time slot. As MacOS Mojave launches September, I’d have thought if these MacBooks were launching in October that Apple would want them to have their latest OS, so would have locked in a version of Mojave for the start of manufacture, as they do with iOS for iPhones. That reasoning leaves us with a sooner rather than later launchLet's deduce it...
I recall Apple not selling brand new hardware in their back to school offers - so I don't think they'd release anything until that promotion is over. You can google the dates they've used in the past - it looks like they'll kick of the promotion in a week or so and have that extend into September - (2017-07-12 to 2017-09-25 / 2016-06-02 to 2016-09-05 / 2015-07-23 to 2015-09-15).
That means they could have a hardware event in September. I'd say they'd need an event if they were making anything more than spec bump hardware changes - and we're seeing hints at hardware changes (better keyboards? face id ipad?).
Given the current "every laptop we ship with a keyboard has a warranty issue" is a bit of a concern for Apple, I'd think they would try to make that event in as early September as they can. So I'll set the over under at the closest Tuesday to mid-month - that's September 18th.
That is simply incorrect. Sometimes they have released Macs right in the middle of the back-to-school promotion, meaning that they had to change the promotion mid-stream to include the new models.
By the way, last year the new models were released just a few weeks before the promotion, so essentially brand new Macs.
Thank you! I wanted to future proof next laptop anyway even if it might be overkill for what I use it for. Might just bump up to the 16 GB RAM also. Chrome is a hungry browser.
Because of the lack of leaks. We have two news items and have jumped on top of them because we want the new products.
There is no shortage of current stock or delay on BTO configurations.
I would like the new MBPs to come out this month, but I really can’t see it...
I have a problem with that.
But before I detail my problem, I want to say that I do believe that new laptops from Apple are a matter of weeks, and although I don't have any idea how they will be called, I'm sure they will use the 8th gen of Intel.
But the registration with the EEC is not simple;
The numbers are new, and have never used by Apple before.
Now, the problem is that these numbers refer to the chassis and not to the model.
When the same design is used, the number is the same.
This is why "A1398" (just for example) was used for 21 different models, of different 4 years, all of them with the same chassis.
On the other hand, the 2017 MBP 13 had 2 different numbers, because there were 2 different designs (TB and nTB).
So what is the problem?
When there is a new design, it can't be kept as a secret, because there are too many companies involved, and there are many rumors, even months before, and KGI tells us everything, etc.
And this is not the case.
So what I think?
2 possibilities:
1. Apple is going to release many new products very soon, including laptops (not sure MBP).
Even if there are new MBPs, the numbers above don't refer to them, but to other product that are going to be released too.
2. Because of the problems with the keyboard, Apple did very minor changes in the chassis, just to resolve the problem, but the design look the same and it's hard to see the change. Maybe a so minor change is possible to keep in secret.
Sounds like a spec bump in unchanged chassis to me.....maybe spec bumps for the 2015 model also?
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Why would there be shortage currently? I know that stuff is inevitable but with all the problems and bad rep the TB models have gotten, I’m not surprised there are no shortages in stores and warehouses lol. Still plenty of time to see shortages if were taking later July/August but ya never hurts to be comfortably pessimistic
I could certainly see this possibility turn out true. For example, one might technically call the iPhone 6S's chassis design "new" compared to the 6 because it was 0.2mm thicker, when in practice, this was such a small difference that it was not noticeable by the average consumer and looked pretty much identical. Now if a new number is only given for a new chassis, then it's very possible that Apple just made some minor changes to the MBP chassis (possibly unnoticeable unless you know what you're looking for) to accommodate for a refreshed and fixed keyboard.
Ah we have one for reading tea leaves
No shortage of current stock is meaningless. It could just mean demand has slumped below expectation (which would not be surprised given they have as much admitted a keyboard problem by offering free repairs). Lots of things affecting supply and demand affect what is available and we don't have the necessary info to interpret it. And any stock left over will likely be sold as refurbished in a few months, or used for warranty replacements
Read what I wrote literally the post before this
I sense a dark storm coming as apple remove the headphone port on the new chassis.
I sense a dark storm coming as apple remove the headphone port on the new chassis.
I mean the big question that people forget because of keyboard-gate - what about the TouchBar ??
Read again what I wrote above.
There are 2 possibilities ("1" and "2").
If the second is the right one, then there will be probably 3 models, like the current ones:
13 TB
13 nTB
15 TB.
You can also see that there are going to be 3 models with MacOS with consecutive numbers
(like the current 13TB/nTB/15TB).
This was also the conclusion of MacRumors.
But the keyboard will be fixed.
And this explains why there are new model numbers.
And this is also the reason for the delay
(I believe that Apple planned to release it in WWDC or before, but the lawsuit forced them to fix the keyboard which forced them to change the chassis a little).
Oh yeah I saw your post all right. But it is also possible that there are no changes to current form factor other than cpu bump, and the 3 new numbers are versions without the TB.
I wish you were right.
But no chance.
And there are zillion reasons for that.
For example, Apple's ego.
Or all of the announcements in WWDC regarding TB.
Anyway, in WWDC 2017 there were 3 new model numbers of MBP, so what some of us (and also MacRumors) think is that the same 3 models are upgraded.
And my $0.02 is that the keyboards of these 3 models were fixed, which caused the numbers to change, and all of the other changes are only spec bump.
We can still be happy (if it's true!) because there is still a 13 model without a TB.
Hmmm dunno. Touchbar not exactly a roaring success. I suspect it will be changed at least. Maybe made smaller, reorientated and stuck to side of trackpad as a scrubbing bar for example, since the people who do like seem to like this function.
I'm currently on 15", so 13" would be a change (though I'm considering it even if I decide to change from Apple since 13" so much easier to use on a plane)
As unlikely as it felt even just a year or two ago (or even now for that matter) it’s starting to seem inevitable. Unfortunately it breaks one my main work requirements for Macs, which is local x86 Linux VMs, but I’m not overly concerned about it. I can shift much of that to ESX boxes and any hard requirement for local VMs I can use company provided x86 machines as the host. I doubt it would see me switch my own personal OS.
September event will be for iphones and apple watch and the October will be for the macs and ipads