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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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That issue isn’t actually that uncommon - MacBook pros have had it (perhaps they still do) I think it was the ones with the GTX 750M that I have heard suffered from this issue when pushed. You’ve got a 47W cpu, 35W gpu - that’s already 82 Watts even before the power draw of the screen and other components like fans and ram is factored in. If you’re sitting in a bright room with the display quite bright while playing a demanding game or something it’s not difficult to see you going over an 85W power draw. And of course any high powered laptop will drain its battery in tens of minutes rather than hours when pushed hard when not plugged in.
How is that taking 100GB? I’ve never seen that and wouldn’t that be Adobe’s faultJust be warned that 64 GB RAM is not nearly enough for Adobe's sloppy coding.
(Screenshot taken on an iMac 5k a few minutes ago)
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The 6 Core will probaly be only on the highest end model of the 15 inch
Does she have a sister?
[/QUOTE]Sadly not
I did help her out with the taxes, so she decided to thank me using the money she saved up that way (which still is crazy though).
After some diligent research I’ve drawn together my updated conclusion of what Apple is going to bring to the 2018 Macbook Pro’s. The Intel+AMD Vega Chip is all but confirmed for it. Here’s a excerpt from Intel’s press release “Look for more to come in the first quarter of 2018, including systems from major OEMs based on this exciting new technology”
~This timeframe gaurentess Apple’s ability to get this chip and with the iMac Pro getting Vega graphics with HBM it makes total since that Apple would integrate this into the next MacBook Pro, especially with their pivot toward AR, and Virtual Reality (see WWDC 2017). Not only that but the advantage of this would be the size of the overall components would allow Apple to further shrink the size of the logic board while increasing the size of the battery all while increasing effeciency of parts. That would bring improved battery to the new MacBook Pros. All of this while allowing the MacBook Pro to keep its slim profile or even possibly become slightly thinner...knowing Apple This also fits the recent “rumor” or in my mind development, that Apple partnered with its manufacturer Career to integrate faster circuit boards based off LCB FPCB tech currently used in the iPhones into the Macs and Apple Watch. He was quoted “It order to address future hardware form factor design requirements (e.g. saving more internal space) and to keep abreast of potential data transmission spec upgrades (e.g. USB 3.2), we believe Apple is now working with Career, its FPCB supplier for MacBook, in exploring LCP FPCB designs for future MacBook models”.
These developments certainly make an extremely compelling case for the next version of the 15inch MacBook Pro, but with the improved effeciency and smaller boards we could very well see a option to get the 13inch with one of these Intel/Vega chips. Only time will tell but I have a really good feeling about the 2018 MacBook Pro’s.
Here’s my list of predictions for those who don’t like reading.
~This timeframe gaurentess Apple’s ability to get this chip and with the iMac Pro getting Vega graphics with HBM it makes total since that Apple would integrate this into the next MacBook Pro, especially with their pivot toward AR, and Virtual Reality (see WWDC 2017). Not only that but the advantage of this would be the size of the overall components would allow Apple to further shrink the size of the logic board while increasing the size of the battery all while increasing effeciency of parts. That would bring improved battery to the new MacBook Pros. All of this while allowing the MacBook Pro to keep its slim profile or even possibly become slightly thinner...knowing Apple
This also fits the recent “rumor” or in my mind development, that Apple partnered with its manufacturer Career to integrate faster circuit boards based off LCB FPCB tech currently used in the iPhones into the Macs and Apple Watch. He was quoted “It order to address future hardware form factor design requirements (e.g. saving more internal space) and to keep abreast of potential data transmission spec upgrades (e.g. USB 3.2), we believe Apple is now working with Career, its FPCB supplier for MacBook, in exploring LCP FPCB designs for future MacBook models”. These developments certainly make an extremely compelling case for the next version of the 15inch MacBook Pro, but with the improved effeciency and smaller boards we could very well see a option to get the 13inch with one of these Intel/Vega chips. Only time will tell but I have a really good feeling about the 2018 MacBook Pro’s.
Here’s my list of predictions for those who don’t like reading.
- Intel i5 4 Core + Iris 750 GPU(13”) and i7/i9 6 Core + AMD Vega GPU 4 to 6GB HBM2(15”)
- Improved Display/HDR Spec/TruTone...
- Larger Battery across the lineup
- Improved FaceTime HD camera
- 3rd Genration Butterfly Keys
- 4 USB C Ports (13”) 6 USB C Ports (15”) with 50/50 chance they bring back the SD Card Slot
What is the probability that these updates will happen?After some diligent research I’ve drawn together my updated conclusion of what Apple is going to bring to the 2018 Macbook Pro’s. The Intel+AMD Vega Chip is all but confirmed for it. Here’s a excerpt from Intel’s press release “Look for more to come in the first quarter of 2018, including systems from major OEMs based on this exciting new technology”
~This timeframe gaurentess Apple’s ability to get this chip and with the iMac Pro getting Vega graphics with HBM it makes total since that Apple would integrate this into the next MacBook Pro, especially with their pivot toward AR, and Virtual Reality (see WWDC 2017). Not only that but the advantage of this would be the size of the overall components would allow Apple to further shrink the size of the logic board while increasing the size of the battery all while increasing effeciency of parts. That would bring improved battery to the new MacBook Pros. All of this while allowing the MacBook Pro to keep its slim profile or even possibly become slightly thinner...knowing Apple
These developments certainly make an extremely compelling case for the next version of the 15inch MacBook Pro, but with the improved effeciency and smaller boards we could very well see a option to get the 13inch with one of these Intel/Vega chips. Only time will tell but I have a really good feeling about the 2018 MacBook Pro’s.
Here’s my list of predictions for those who don’t like reading.
- Intel i5 4 Core + Iris 750 GPU(13”) and i7/i9 6 Core + AMD Vega GPU 4 to 6GB HBM2(15”)
- Improved Display/HDR Spec/TruTone...
- Larger Battery across the lineup
- Improved FaceTime HD camera
- 3rd Genration Butterfly Keys
- 4 USB C Ports (13”) 6 USB C Ports (15”) with 50/50 chance they bring back the SD Card Slot
Good list, although I don't think we'll get anything but the first two points you listed. The iGPU in the 13" will be a very interesting one, since we don't have any indication as to what Intel is up to, apart from the rebranded UHD620. Hopefully, it won't be just another run of rebrands.
As for the GPU in the 15" model - I guess we'll get a variant of Vega. However, on anything but the low end, Vega doesn't seem to be far more efficient than Polaris, so I'm afraid we might not see a performance boost as big as we hope.
Larger battery - I think they'll wait for a full redesign in a few years, and then they might go with a thinner body over a larger battery.
FaceTime camera - they might want to wait until Face ID is ready for the Mac before changing the camera, which most probably is not next year.
3rd Gen butterfly keys: This one is possible. However, I think they might figure out a way to make the keyboards more reliable without changing the switch mechanism yet again. I guess we'll see.
More ports - Thunderbolt 3 controller chips are still not cheap, that's why you don't see any other notebooks with four of them. Since Thunderbolt 3 can be daisy chained, I think four ports are enough for pretty much any workflow. I mean you can easily connect four displays in addition to like 20 RAID storage systems and a ton of other accessories on four ports.
Having said that, I'm still mighty hyped for next year's MacBook Pro update. Not only because I'm desperately in need for a new notebook, but mainly because of the CPU upgrades, which are going to be huge.
Seems to be a memory leak, and yep, that's Adobe's fault. Still, Adobe's software is really badly optimized, and I just wish they would care a little more about resource management.
The real fun will be eGPU support coming out of beta. Will Apple have a first party enclosure? Might we even see NVIDIA on stage?
I doubt the second one but it would be neat.
I doubt the second one but it would be neat.
This all seems likely though I doubt they bring back the SD card.
If the 2018 models have half of this list, it's a definitive buy from me.
I’ve definitely gained patience with the likelihood of the new proccesor and potential for increased battery size with the shrhrinking of the logic board. The motherboard in Intels video even looked like a MacBook Pro board.
I totally agree with you. After putting off my purchase for a couple of months I finally picked up the 2017 Macbook 15" 512GB. I'm totally happy with it and I now wonder why I had the apprehension. I moved from the early 2015 Macbook Air,. It's two weeks since I have been using the Pro and am loving it. At first I found the touchbar gimmicky but once you get used to it and also make an attempt to using it for the interface it makes working on the mac much faster. The only thing I hate and wish Apple had done something about is the short travel for the keys, probably that may be something I'll get used to as time goes by. The other thing that you miss coming from the Air is the long battery life, but then hey I guess it's also dependent on my use, I'm quite a heavy user.
It hasn’t been focussed on much but it kind of makes sense for Apple to increase the resolution to 4K does it not? Many competing laptops already offer it as an option.
4K seems to be becoming standard quicker than I thought it might. It’s possible to shoot in 4K on your phone but not view it on an Apple laptop. Apple markets the MBP heavily on video applications so shouldn’t one of the priciest and best video editing laptops have a 4K screen? We’ve had the current resolution since 2012.
I’m also hoping for 10-bit colour and True Tone.
4K seems to be becoming standard quicker than I thought it might. It’s possible to shoot in 4K on your phone but not view it on an Apple laptop. Apple markets the MBP heavily on video applications so shouldn’t one of the priciest and best video editing laptops have a 4K screen? We’ve had the current resolution since 2012.
I’m also hoping for 10-bit colour and True Tone.
When you read reviews comparing the same notebook with a 1080p and a 4k screen, usually the 4k one does have significantly worse battery life. If that's the compromise, I would rather take the still very high resolution display Apple currently offers. I mean, seriously, the current 13" MacBook Pro does offer a higher resolution than the 27" iMac / Cinema Display just a few years ago. And it looks flawless, I wouldn't like a higher resolution if it reduces battery life even just slightly.
10 bit, HDR, True Tone and so on would be nice, but I guess Apple will wait for a redesign before changing the screens to keep costs down.
This is the reason I got mad when Intel abandoned the GT4e chips, the good iGPU and apples very power-efficient variable refresh-rate is what made me believe in a laptop with 4k screen still being able to have good battery life. For me it does not really matter if the next MBp gets 4k or not, I just really want 32gb ram, and the best possible graphics card. And right now I think I will get disappointed, as the rumored coffee lake wont have lpddr4 support. And I have jet to see something impressive from AMDs graphics department.
There's always a compromise. The current 15" retina screens have 2880x1800. That corresponds to 1440x900. But earlier 15" non-retina MBPs had 1680x1050. So Apple could make a 3360x2100 screen. That's still around 85% of a full 4K resolution, as compared to 63% now. Full 4K would make the system elements (title bar etc) too small to use anyway, when used in a 2x retina mode on a 15".
The rumored AMD+Intel chip leaked performance is bewtweem a 1050ti and barely below a 1060. Add in some good ol Apple optimization and its gonna fly.
Always link a source when stating such a claim please.
Here you are : https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Announces-New-CPUs-Integrating-AMD-Radeon-Graphics
and another with some extra results: http://www.techradar.com/news/leake...-graphics-are-exciting-news-for-laptop-gamers
I own a pre-retina 15" MBP (mid 2009) and it actually has a 1440 x 900 pixel screen- The 1680 x 1050 screen was actually a BTO option and, as far as I recall, never a standard. So the current resolution is indeed exactly four times the resolution of previous generations, although Apple chose to default to the 1050p scaling instead of going for the more optimal exact 2x retina scaling. I agree though, if they keep the scaling, a 3360 x 2100 resolution makes far more sense than simply using 4k.
Good explanation, thanks. I always use the “looks like” 1680x1050 or even 1920x1200 resolution, so I’d be satisfied with a bump up to 3360 x 2100. I don’t think you’d be able to tell the difference between that and 4K without a magnifying glass anyway. And yes I want as much battery life as possible in any mobile device.