Waiting for the 2018 MBP

I’m hoping for a March update to the MacBook Line, killing the Air and introducing a 13 inch MacBook at $1300 and dropping the MBA finally. Then in June updating the MacBook Pro line, killing the NTb model and having the 13inch start at $1500 and the 15inch starting at $2000. This would drastically simplify the entry level lineup (excluding custom configurations possibilities)

MacBook
*12 inch m3 8th gen/8gb ram/128gb -$1000
*13 inch i5(m5) 8th gen/8gb ram/256gb -$1300

MacBook Pro
*13 inch with TB i5 8th gen 15 watt/256gb/8gb ram -$1500
*13 inch with TB i5 8th gen 28 watt/512gb/8gb ram -$1800
*15 inch with TB i7 8th gen + Vega 45 watt/256gb/16gb ram -$2000
*15 inch with TB i7 8th gen 45 watt/Radeon Pro 640 2gb/512gb/16gb ram -$2300
*15 inch with TB i9 8th gen ?? watt/Radeon Pro 660 4gb/512gb/16gb ram -$2800
 
watchthesky said:
i'm 5'0" so half a pound on top of textbooks makes a Big difference
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This means you have a lower Center of gravity, smaller frame body as in less flex in your spine/torso than someone much taller than you (e.g. me at 5’11). You should be able to carry a few pounds in your backpack especially if your young for a few hundred metres without a thought in your mind of pain/weight. That is unless you have an injury or predisposed issue with rroator cuffs, collarbone or seriously big breasted (unbalanced weight stress on lower back).

I'm thinking too many people are seriously out of shape and or just like to wine for any bit of work that involves the human body. All those artist drawings of alien sightings showing fail bodies is were we’ll all end up looking like because a half pound is too heavy in a knapsack. If you’re baked body no issues 2pounds is what you should be able to ‘notice’ not a half pound.

Now I feel like an idiot complaining about someone complaining about .5lbs. But I work in L2 I.T. Direct customer facing and I hear this same complaint every upgrade cycle for. Able bodied grown ups.

youdontsay said:
I expect :

- Tweaked keyboard to improve reliability
- Processor and graphics incremental updates
- Drop in price
- Fewer bugs
- Bigger battery

I'd like:

- Smaller trackpad OR add compatibility with the apple pencil with current trackpad size
- Face ID
- Revamp MacOS, it feels a little bit old
- Redesign the laptop to be thicker, on par with 2013/2015 model
- Reduce the bezels arround the screen.
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MacOS X does need a UI refresh even if just the theme. Used to love the .1-10 updates prior to mavericks.

I’m curious ... when Phil retires who’s next in line for hardware executive VP? We have so many Executive VP’s at Apple for Siri, Software, iPhone hardware, Design, iOS UI, etc but there is no distinct Mac Hardware VP just the cpu design and an executive who overlaps from iPhone iPad and Mac intros. Would love to see distinction in leadership for each. Maybe then we’d see better updates and more focus in the hardware feature implementation. Maybe MagSafe would not have left.
 
gobikerider said:
I’m hoping for a March update to the MacBook Line, killing the Air and introducing a 13 inch MacBook at $1300 and dropping the MBA finally. Then in June updating the MacBook Pro line, killing the NTb model and having the 13inch start at $1500 and the 15inch starting at $2000. This would drastically simplify the entry level lineup (excluding custom configurations possibilities)

MacBook
*12 inch m3 8th gen/8gb ram/128gb -$1000
*13 inch i5(m5) 8th gen/8gb ram/256gb -$1300

MacBook Pro
*13 inch with TB i5 8th gen 15 watt/256gb/8gb ram -$1500
*13 inch with TB i5 8th gen 28 watt/512gb/8gb ram -$1800
*15 inch with TB i7 8th gen + Vega 45 watt/256gb/16gb ram -$2000
*15 inch with TB i7 8th gen 45 watt/Radeon Pro 640 2gb/512gb/16gb ram -$2300
*15 inch with TB i9 8th gen ?? watt/Radeon Pro 660 4gb/512gb/16gb ram -$2800
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The Y series 8th gen chips (cannonlake) have been pushed back into late 2018, so the 12”MB and any theoretical 13/14” variant using the same chips won’t be appearing using them until towards the end of next year. I also don’t think they will be using 15/28W chips in an otherwise undifferentiated 13” pro line, that’d be a mess.
 
Falhófnir said:
The Y series 8th gen chips (cannonlake) have been pushed back into late 2018, so the 12”MB and any theoretical 13/14” variant using the same chips won’t be appearing using them until towards the end of next year. I also don’t think they will be using 15/28W chips in an otherwise undifferentiated 13” pro line, that’d be a mess.
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What about Kaby Lake R, Y series chips then? All the current “8th gen” is simply that anyway.
 
gobikerider said:
What about Kaby Lake R, Y series chips then? All the current “8th gen” is simply that anyway.
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KBL R is the code name for the U series (and H series?) mobile 8th gen chips, with coffee lake being 8th gen desktop. Y series are codenamed cannonlake and will be the only 8th gen chips to make the jump to 10nm (which I would guess is the reason for the holdup?) - the line is meant (as things stand) to reunite at 10nm in the 9th gen which is codenamed ‘icelake’ in 2019... or that’s my current understanding anyway!
 
Falhófnir said:
KBL R is the code name for the U series (and H series?) mobile 8th gen chips, with coffee lake being 8th gen desktop. Y series are codenamed cannonlake and will be the only 8th gen chips to make the jump to 10nm (which I would guess is the reason for the holdup?) - the line is meant (as things stand) to reunite at 10nm in the 9th gen which is codenamed ‘icelake’ in 2019... or that’s my current understanding anyway!
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Seriously. Intel needs to get their act together. Their lineup has been a mess for quite some time... and it's only getting worse.

I work in an IT company with... generally... smart people who know their stuff. And even THERE people are like "why can I not run this database software well? I have an i7... the other machine also has an i7?!"
They think about it how it SHOULD be:

i3 crap CPU
i5 middle of the road CPU
i7 high end

When in reality it's like... super ultra low power has i3-i7... medium power has i3-i7... high end as well. And the naming only matter with regards to the category the cpus find themselves in. Ridiculous. Really.
 
An out of the box thought.. this might provoke a lot of reaction, I hope!!
Just what if Apple ditch Intel in favour of AMD for cpus? After all they already use AMD graphics... I already have custom built many Ryzen and Threadripper systems for many people including myself, and with rumours of new Ryzen and Threadripper CPUS next year why not have more options for whatever MacBook line up there is available to include these as well... it could only be "good for business" surely !?! Any thoughts on this.. after all AMD are owned by Samsung anyway, just incase people forgot!! ..... I'd buy a MacBook Pro with a Threadripper 1950x(mobile version) in it over an inflated i9 every time!! Also on this topic why isn't there an i9 anyway ? that would tempt the "pros".... especially since the iMac Pro should be avoided until they bring out modified versions later on...

My new quote is "never buy version1 of of anything, it's buggy and we are essentially the beta testers for them!"
 
Hey guys, I'm looking at picking up a MBP 15" touch bar right now. Had my MBA since 2013 and its been a good 4 years and looking for MBP for another 3ish years.

I don't do design or video but I often have many browsers open especially on google drive, the cloud, and multiple spreadsheets, etc...

I'm looking at 2.9ghz and 3.1ghz but wondering if I'll even realize the performance boost difference between 2.9ghz and 3.1ghz. In the 2-4 years that I plan to keep my MBP 15" which would be best for me?
 
hellopupy said:
I'm looking at 2.9ghz and 3.1ghz but wondering if I'll even realize the performance boost difference between 2.9ghz and 3.1ghz.
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Likely not. Unless you run specific CPU-intensive tasks where execution time is an important factor (which is not the case judging from what you wrote), the CPU offers the least "bang for the buck" among all upgrade options.
 
Falhófnir said:
KBL R is the code name for the U series (and H series?) mobile 8th gen chips, with coffee lake being 8th gen desktop. Y series are codenamed cannonlake and will be the only 8th gen chips to make the jump to 10nm (which I would guess is the reason for the holdup?) - the line is meant (as things stand) to reunite at 10nm in the 9th gen which is codenamed ‘icelake’ in 2019... or that’s my current understanding anyway!
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I hate intel complicating everything
 
I don't see an update in March coming.
Coffee Lake mobile CPUs will be released in Q1'18, MBPs will be refreshed in July, at the earliest.

But boy, MBP15 will be awesome with an i7 hexacore!


And then, in 2019, we'll see 32GB of RAM, when Cannon Lake mobile CPUs come out.
 
Seriously... by the time Apple releases a MBP w/ 32GB... I'll want 64GB.

It's kinda pathetic if you think about it... 16GB MBPs have been available SINCE EARLY 2011!!!
Aka the RAM ceiling has been the same for 6.5 years and counting...
 
One of my coworkers brings his imac to and from work every day. They are portable enough to do this. As long as you don't need to fly it anywhere and you are not a person who goes to coffee shops to use a computer.
 
DeepIn2U said:
This means you have a lower Center of gravity, smaller frame body as in less flex in your spine/torso than someone much taller than you (e.g. me at 5’11). You should be able to carry a few pounds in your backpack especially if your young for a few hundred metres without a thought in your mind of pain/weight. That is unless you have an injury or predisposed issue with rroator cuffs, collarbone or seriously big breasted (unbalanced weight stress on lower back).

I'm thinking too many people are seriously out of shape and or just like to wine for any bit of work that involves the human body. All those artist drawings of alien sightings showing fail bodies is were we’ll all end up looking like because a half pound is too heavy in a knapsack. If you’re baked body no issues 2pounds is what you should be able to ‘notice’ not a half pound.

Now I feel like an idiot complaining about someone complaining about .5lbs. But I work in L2 I.T. Direct customer facing and I hear this same complaint every upgrade cycle for. Able bodied grown ups.



MacOS X does need a UI refresh even if just the theme. Used to love the .1-10 updates prior to mavericks.

I’m curious ... when Phil retires who’s next in line for hardware executive VP? We have so many Executive VP’s at Apple for Siri, Software, iPhone hardware, Design, iOS UI, etc but there is no distinct Mac Hardware VP just the cpu design and an executive who overlaps from iPhone iPad and Mac intros. Would love to see distinction in leadership for each. Maybe then we’d see better updates and more focus in the hardware feature implementation. Maybe MagSafe would not have left.
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good thing then that i AM also big breasted and ankylosing spondylitis runs in the family ;)

not really fair to assume that anyone complaining is 'able bodied' and just trying to be a pain in the ass
if someone says they notice the weight and it makes a difference for them it's not really up to you to say otherwise

as long as the 2018 macbook pro is out in time for back to school promotions i'm set
wwdc/early summer release makes the most sense to me
 
Could a member of the forum make a thread for "Waiting for FaceID Macbook Pro." Or is that too close to this thread? Asking for a friend.
 
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