I keep reading horror stories of 16/17 macbook pro keyboards. Should I let this deter me from buying a 17 macbook pro? I've been looking at refurbs more and more or even some good deals popping up. Just worry about the keyboard crapping out. If its just a handful of people im alright with that, but the post make it sound like 50% of keyboards break down.
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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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I own the 2016 version and I love it, just get Apple Care with it (just in case) and you'll be fine. It's not that big of an issue as the forum is saying it is.
As an owner of a 2016 MBP with a flawed keyboard, I would recommend to opt for a 2017 model just in case, and second the idea of getting an extended warranty. The issue does exist, but there is no way to tell what the occurrence rate is, as any evidence in that sense is inevitably anecdotal and Apple will probably never let it out. The current MBPs are otherwise very good computers which I would recommend without hesitation.
TL;DR if you spot a great refurb deal on a 2017, get it with AC and enjoy your machine. If you don't need one immediately, though, keep in mind that significant CPU/GPU improvements are expected from the 2018 refresh, which depending on your usage might be worth the wait.
Honestly, I thought about something like this. But only to bring it Monday, and take home Friday. Since during the week I don't really need my computer at home.
BUT.
In my line of work I DO occasionally have to fly, or take the train etc.. Plus when I present at potential customers and clients I cannot really put the iMac on the desk there in the conference room... with a MBP everyone can still see one another... which is important. With an iMac... not so much.
Sadly I REALLY need a portable machine aka a MBP. My line of work requires me to take my computer with me... so ya... no iMac Pro for me
I have seen Windows and Linux laptops with 64 GB around the same price range as a maxed out Macbook Pro with only 16 GB so at least mankind can achieve good specs on a laptop using only 2017 or older technology. Hopefully Apple will match that in 2018. Probably the best way to reduce the cost of a MBP is to reduce the storage and GPU options at purchase. I hate that a maxed out MPB is over 4K.
It probably isn't 50%, but what percentage it is is an unknown. Certainly enough to pop up repeatedly on forums like this and for apple to post keyboard cleaning instructions on their website. The 2017 machines seem to be somewhat less prone, but that is 100% anecdotal. I guess the best advice would be if you don't do a huge amount of typing, and you really need the machine then go ahead without too much fretting over it, but just be aware it is something that can manifest and there isn't an absolute remedy for it (as yet). If you do a lot of typing, or your primary use of the machine will be typing, then at this juncture I really honestly would look at something else, either a previous gen refurb MacBook, or even something from the competition.
BS
Ignorance
The current MacBooks don't last that long.
The surface book 2 is nowhere near as bad as you're claiming. It's more powerful, higher spec in every way, etc
It drains 1-2% an hour under heavy gaming so you can carry a lighter adapter..
Just stop buying computers
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I'm quite fit.
I wish I didn't even have to carry a bag to work. Who does? It's annoying.
If I want to exercise I will do it when it's convenient for me.
Besides walking in my normal day why would you try to combine things like that?
Maybe we should all wear those ankle weights. No wait, that's stupid..
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Intel is still king.
Check the details at AnandTech comparing them.
It would be a pretty big downgrade in general.
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Yes. "Just" spend a couple hundred dollars more on an already overpriced laptop so you're covered when shoddy quality comes around to bite you.
Apple Loves you!
lol try wearing 10lbs ankle-weights for 52kms walking after a 10 hour day ... then you'll back will hurt the next morning; that was fun stupid was not eating and resting longer than 6hrs sleep
What is the probability that MacBook Pro 15" 2018 will have DDR4 32GB RAM, AMD Vega GPU and Coffee Lake Hexa Core CPU?
Zero for all of these? I mean none of these will be there at 2018 version?
Coffee Lake and hexa-core designs are currently confirmed for desktop only, it remains to be seen if they will have 6 core H series chips as part of the KBL R mobile lineup (I’d say 50:50 at this point). They’ve gone to 4 core on some U series, so perhaps that’s a good sign we might see some H series with hexa-core designs.
You wrote "and," meaning all three. Zero chance of that.
Slim to no chance any of the three will be introduced in the (expected) 2018 refresh.
Anandtech reported a few days ago on the leaked 8th Gen H-series chips. They will be "proper" Coffee Lake parts (not Kaby Lake R) and go up to 6/12 core/threads in a 45W TDP. So hexa-core 15" Macbook Pros are basically guaranteed as far as I'm concerned.
Coffee Lake doesn't support LPDDR4 and I doubt Apple would use regular DDR4. So that's out.
Mobile Vega? Anybody's guess at this point.
That’s good news, any further info on the chips with AMD iGPUs?
does mobile Vega gpu even exist?
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ok, troll detected, your opinion is 0("It drains 1-2% an hour under heavy gaming" WTF) ok i understand you dont have any of these computers, you dont need to be frustrated. I was speaking from objective point of view...stop using youtube or internet for your claims...From now on, its clear every post of yours is 0 credibility and has no interest for me. I was just helping others with info, that seems these days others figure those problems out
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https://fossbytes.com/intel-core-i9-laptop-processor-leaked-details/
New info about the chips which will hit the market in a few months.
New info about the chips which will hit the market in a few months.
i wonder if that i9 could fit the 15" MBP
[doublepost=1512245501][/doublepost]"The high-end overclockable Intel chip is expected to arrive with the 6 Core/12 Thread configuration, 45W TDP, and 12 MB of L3 cache."
so on paper it can fit the MBP
Yeah, it could, but I don't think Apple would go for it since the Core i7-8750H is already faster than the current setup, with a 6core/12 Thread. The thing is that the LPDDR3 is still a problem, with a max of 16 GB RAM within this generation. I would be more than happy with the current CPU power + double GPU and double the ram.
So its pretty clear that the upcoming 13” will have 4 C and the 15” 6C
Hello guys, I'm looking to buy my first Macbook Pro 15" . All these 15 yrs i have been only using windows computers so far. This time i decided to jump into mac. I have been reading in this forums about the features to be added in the 2018 Macbook Pro Line up. This brings up a common question in this forum. Should I wait and buy the 2018 Macbook Pro or should I buy the current 2017 Macbook Pro? Is it worth to wait for the new features that might be available in the 2018 models ? Will there be any major refresh in the 2018 models ?
Pls share your inputs. Thanks for your time.
Pls share your inputs. Thanks for your time.
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Wait.....always wait. And when in doubt, wait some more.
Wait.....always wait. And when in doubt, wait some more.
Thanks, that’s what I’m thinking. A 13” non-TB with 256 GB SSD will be enough for a while, especially compared to nothing but I really want the 15” screen and graphics card for occasional gaming. I saw a good price on a refurb model. Or I could pay off my credit card... Decisions.
This are the changes for the Macbook Pro 15" to recover the most desirable machine status.
KEY CHANGES
1) 32 GB RAM
2) Battery shape adapted to the shell (like the Macbook). For a bigger battery and longer hours of use.
3) VEGA Architecture Video Card
OTHER CHANGES
4) Super retina OLED screen (4K)
5) INTEL i7 "Cannon Lake" architecture Microprocessor
6) Thunderbolt 3 Magsafe cable (Like the Griffin cable) https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable
KEY CHANGES
1) 32 GB RAM
2) Battery shape adapted to the shell (like the Macbook). For a bigger battery and longer hours of use.
3) VEGA Architecture Video Card
OTHER CHANGES
4) Super retina OLED screen (4K)
5) INTEL i7 "Cannon Lake" architecture Microprocessor
6) Thunderbolt 3 Magsafe cable (Like the Griffin cable) https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable
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I've read dozens of horror stories about the new MBP since it's release in 2016, always resisting buying it until my girlfriend finally got me a 15" 2017 MBP as a present, putting my dilemma to rest. All I can say is don't listen to all the negativity in here. It's an incredible machine with incredible build quality. I'm coming from a 13" 2013 rMBP, an awesome machine for itself. I love the new keyboard, I love the new trackpad, the screen is gorgeous, it performs very well (at least with Final Cut Pro X) etc. The only thing that is a little bit meh is the battery life, nothing that's outstandingly bad, but nothing outstandingly good either. Also the Touch Bar bugs kinda ruin the experience of an otherwise quite useful tool. If it was for this forum I would never have bought a MBP ever again.
Just try it out in the store for yourself. If it feels good, go for it. To me it always felt good and I should've gone with my instincts in the first place.
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