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Waiting for the 2019 MBP [Merged]
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I agree. I think it was a strong MacBook Pro release last year. Quad i7s in the 13" and Hex i7s (or i9s) in the 15" are both big advances. I use Cubase VST for music production, where VST instruments and effects require continuous CPU power. I reached the limit of my Late 2013 MBP with a 2.5Ghzi7 and needed more power. The 2017 MBP was still a quad i7, with not much more power than my 4 year older model... so i had to switch to an iMac to get a 4.0Ghz i7 and more power.
Next upgrade i'd have the option of switching back to a laptop and going with the Hex-core i7.
The quad 13" is a great option for a mobile music computer. More powerful than my late 2013 15" MBP, and more portable at the same time. Previously, with only dual core chips the 13" models weren't a viable option.
Next upgrade i'd have the option of switching back to a laptop and going with the Hex-core i7.
The quad 13" is a great option for a mobile music computer. More powerful than my late 2013 15" MBP, and more portable at the same time. Previously, with only dual core chips the 13" models weren't a viable option.
Won't happen, Intel's 10nm is ****ed. Also, AMD GPUs are not going to be on a 10nm process, they are on TSMC's 7nm.
Unless Apple seriously switches up their CPU choices in 2019, they are going to get very boring compared to the competition. AMD is releasing 7nm CPUs with double the core counts. If Apple sticks to Intel while the competition uses these new, superior 7nm CPUs from AMD, I'm going to be dissapointed.
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I see no reason to upgrade my 2016 MBP yet, it is still powerful enough for my needs. The 2018 was a good year though, I was tempted by the RAM upgrade.
Hoping there will be a major redesign by 2020 with face ID, ARM, etc.
Even then I'd wait a year after that major redesign so the kinks get worked out, as I learned my lesson with the 2016.
Hoping there will be a major redesign by 2020 with face ID, ARM, etc.
Even then I'd wait a year after that major redesign so the kinks get worked out, as I learned my lesson with the 2016.
They have GOT to fix keyboard reliability issues if they do a redesign...
Just can't have something so critical be even remotely flaky.
The 2018 keyboards have so far held up -- yes, I know it hasn't been that long, but in the past problems were showing up very quickly. I think they've got the reliability issue mostly fixed, though many people still can't stand the feel of the butterflies.
Also, Apple has shown that they're not all that concerned about releasing flaky products -- they charge enough that even an expensive replacement program that requires them to change out half the computer for a bad keyboard doesn't faze them. So I think we can all expect future problems (if not with the keyboard, then with something else). That's the new Apple way.
I don't know man -- lots of people reporting issues still even with 2018 models (here and elsewhere).
Even the BetterTouchTool developer has had issues with 2018's..
This situation totally sucks..
So - I looked at the live blogs for the Intel press conference and was joking about Ice Lake - but they said:
- 9th Gen Intel chips in Q2
- Ice Lake chips by the end of the year!
Believable? And will Apple have outgrown Intel by then?
- 9th Gen Intel chips in Q2
- Ice Lake chips by the end of the year!
Believable? And will Apple have outgrown Intel by then?
Yep, this is exciting news. Here's a news link.
Dell even demonstrated 13" XPS with Ice Lake technology--a direct competitor to the Macbook Pro line. After years of delays, is 10nm finally happening?
I wouldn't be surprised to see the timelines slip, yet even if they don't slip and Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc, etc ship Ice Lake laptops, apple will hold off. That appears to be their M.O. So if we do ice lake laptops late 2019, we can be reasonably sure that apple will not ship anything until 2020.
Now with the 2020 date, that has been the rumored year that apple starts rolling out their Arm based machines.
ARM is a design company...I forget who they use as their foundry. With that said, the shift to ARM would be more extensive in terms of hardware and software development. Not sure if I want to be part of that guinea pig experiment...
I'd take longer timelines over keyboard issues, kernel panics, and audio issues. 2020 could be interesting, that's for sure.
That's exciting indeed. I really hope this comes true and that they deliver it this time the way they promised. But given all their past delays of the 10nm architecture, I'd advise everyone to take this news with a bit of caution. I'll believe their promises when these chips actually release (or at least when we get closer to launch without any news about additional delays).
I fully agree. I was very excited to hear the rumours about the hexacore and very surprised to see they actually implemented 32GB in normal DDR4.
There are a few more reasons why Apple still rocks. I've been using my late 2013 13" MBP for 5 years now. That's because Apple invests in top-end components that are less visible, like the SSD and the audio. Also, the OS seems to use the hardware more efficiently so it feels faster for longer. I've used plenty of Windows machines, also recently. They usually need replacing after 3 years. So a mac can cost 66% more and still come out at the same end price.
Also, with a Windows machine, I need to drag along a mouse. With a mac, the trackpad is good enough to use even in the office.
Working on a contractor basis, I am paying for my own machines. While some use that argument to upgrade after 2 years, I still prefer to use cash in other ways. So I'll keep my late 2013 until the 2019 refresh. Here's what I'd like to see:
- Stable keyboard. I don't mind the shallowness, I mind the numerous threads here about problems.
- Stable T2. I really like Apple playing with a co-processor, but again, I mind the numerous threads here about problems.
- Newer processors are a given. Let's hope Intel has overcome their 10nm problems and can give us some good power improvements. Idem for a newer dGPU.
- An early redesign with smaller bezels would definitely be welcome. The LG Gram shows us what is possible.
Aside from that, 1 USB-C dock in the office and I'm all set for the next 5 years.
The last I heard, what intel are planning on launching isn’t their original 10nm process, that’s been completely scrapped - it will basically be the existing 14nm process moved to a 12nm size, with no other benefits (density increases etc) branded as 10nm. For that reason I’d not just wait until they launch, but until we actually see what they bring to the table as they might be underwhelming compared to past node shrinks. Hopefully they will run a bit cooler and allow for some clock increases, but without a corresponding density increase those big generation over generation performance jumps aren’t achievable.
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This is going to make for a pretty agonising decision in June - to wait another year and see what the redesign brings; sounds like a good idea until the 2020s have their own set of issues making waiting until 2021 a smarter move... or jumping on an expensive and imperfect 2019 and hoping for the best, or even jumping ship altogether :/
Anyone following the launches at CES 2019? Apple needs to get off their asses in every dept.
I can't say I'm surprised after the last few years, but I'm still surprised at the scale of Intel's failure here. Their 10nm was ambitious to say the least (corresponds to others' 7nm from what I understand). I can't say I'm confident looking forward beyond that process, both for Intel and others, because that's where the real trouble seems to start.
I'm hoping that 2019 brings a redesign and 2020 brings lots of fancy new ideas, like the ARM, either as the main CPU or as a hybrid system. 2019 could also be a bridge year, with a T3 processor that takes over more tasks.
Jumping ship for me is not an option. The Windows competition looks attractive at first, but it's frequently only skin deep. For example, the LG Gram is way slower than an MBP and all Dell XPS models I've seen had their skins rubbing off. And I still prefer the all-in just-works experience of macOS over the bricolage install 1000 third-party tools to get basic things done approach of Windows (even though I'm impressed at the overall Win10 experience).
Without trawling through this whole thread, how likely do people reckon it is that the next model will have 1TB as standard on the high end 15?
I'm tempted by some pretty decent offers (£2000 rather than £2699) knocking about for the current 2.6Ghz model, but aside from the CPU I'm not sure if it's enough of an upgrade from my mid 2015 model (2.8Ghz, 16ram, 512gb).
I'm tempted by some pretty decent offers (£2000 rather than £2699) knocking about for the current 2.6Ghz model, but aside from the CPU I'm not sure if it's enough of an upgrade from my mid 2015 model (2.8Ghz, 16ram, 512gb).
About as likely as them throwing a top of the line iPad and top of the line iPhone in the box too, and saying "...Just so you get a more complete experience, these are on us."
There won't be a 1TB standard until 2021-2022, and then in the second base model, not in the cheapest one.
If your 2015 is still running fine, keep your $3K for another few years. Yes, CPU will be faster and so will the SSD. But will it be important or just nice to have?
If Apple does increase the storage, it will be more like this:
Base: 256GB
Upgraded: 1TB
512GB in base? Only if Apple changes their ways, and those are nickel and diming their customers.
And that won't ever happen.
Tbh, the biggest thing is to have more storage space. Also gotta factor in that I can currently use one of those microSD port things which is giving me another 128gb. It would be the second base model I went for.