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Waiting for the 2019 MBP [Merged]
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There's always going to be something better on the horizon - well, we thought that with the 2014 Mac Mini, but you know what I mean. 
Nothing special has come up in the rumour mill, so your guess is as good as mine. If you can afford to wait, wait. If you need one now, they're very capable machines and will continue to be, so you might as well buy one.
Nothing special has come up in the rumour mill, so your guess is as good as mine. If you can afford to wait, wait. If you need one now, they're very capable machines and will continue to be, so you might as well buy one.
I'm on the same boat here.
Intel said their new chip will be out in the market in time for the holidays. Does that mean that the release of the 2019 MBP might be delayed few months? Or will Apple simply release in the same late summer period but without the new and improved 10nm chip?
Also, how much does previous year's model come down in price when the new one is released? So if the base 2018 model is $2400 USD or $3200 CAD, what will the same one cost when the 2019 is about to be released?
Intel said their new chip will be out in the market in time for the holidays. Does that mean that the release of the 2019 MBP might be delayed few months? Or will Apple simply release in the same late summer period but without the new and improved 10nm chip?
Also, how much does previous year's model come down in price when the new one is released? So if the base 2018 model is $2400 USD or $3200 CAD, what will the same one cost when the 2019 is about to be released?
If you don’t have an urgent need I recommend you wait. Seems to be a few problems with this generation. (keyboard, kernal panics, audio).
March seems pretty unlikely. We of course do not know, but based on previous experience I'd not expect an upgrade before summer.
I wish they would sort out the rip off storage options to .5 and 1 TB in the stock configurations with 2 and 4 BTOs - a 256GB SSD in a £2,350 laptop in 2019 is appalling frankly!
As long as people keep buying at these prices Apple will continue to nickel & dime it's customers as much as it possibly can, as it claws for ever more profit.
Q-6
Not many that I've heard of. 9th generation CPUs are due in Q2 which will feature additional silicon-based mitigations for Spectre and Meltdown, which will be more efficient and less performance-impacting than the current firmware/software mitigations. There's also a possibility of a smaller, cooler, higher performance 7nm Vega GPU, but I wouldn't expect that to be ready until the second half of the year at the earliest, and possibly not until 2020.
Intel is expected to have one line of mobile 10nm chips out in volume by Q4. The problem is Apple uses two lines ("U" series and "H" series) for their MBPs, so I wouldn't expect the MBPs to be refreshed with 10nm CPUs until 2020.
That said, Intel is releasing another incremental 9th generation mobile series in 2019Q2 (still on the 14nm++ process), but with additional silicon mitigations for Spectre and Meltdown as I mentioned above. Apple may decide to adopt those in a minor refresh of the MBP this year. Or, they may decide to skip them and just wait until 2020.
I just upgraded my 2014 on an impulse buy and was surprised how smoother everything is. Will I be foaming at the mouth for the 19? Sure but the 18 is awesome enough to wait a few more years!
Yes, or at the very least finally get rid of the 128GB storage option and make the 256GB take its place prise-wise across all Macs. 256GB as an entry-level option I can sort-of understand – the average user and potentially even the average pro user might not need more than 256GB in a vast majority of his tasks –, but 128GB in the entry-level Air and Pro is really, really pushing it.
If you subtract the amount of storage that is occupied by the OS, by Caches and the like, then you‘re probably left with less than 100GB for your actual files. And if you don‘t want to get a full-storage-warning all the time (and potentially run into slowdowns, which can happen when your drive is as good as full), then we are talking about maybe 80-90GB of space that you‘re actually allowed to use for your files. And installing some fairly standard apps such as iWork/iLife, MS Office or another suite of office apps, maybe a good image editor and stuff like that can easily add up to another 10GB or so.
I honestly think that if the 2018 MBA started at the same price point but with 256GB of storage (like the oftentimes belittled MacBook already does, since its inclusion 3.5 years ago!), then it‘d be really good value, at least relative to everything else Apple offers. Especially if you consider that the entry-level MBA has already been discounted for $999 several times and we‘re only a few months after release. But having to put down another $250 just to get a more reasonable amount of storage that won‘t immediately bombard you with „You‘re soon running out of storage!“-warnings when you do even just a little bit with bigger media or apps or anything like that is really not great.
I personally am waiting until the second generation 10 NM based on Sunny Cove in 2020, want to get as much bang for my buck as possible. Hopefully the prices will come down too, Apple is likely starting the realize their pricing strategy since the 2016 models (especially with the keyboard and graphics) issues have been a bit wacky. I need a 1799 15 inch for a change.
Current chassis design in past it 5 Year life cycle. Ming Kuo Cho tweeted that A new mold for the Aluminum chassis has been commissioned and will used more recycled alloys.
Chassis was redesigned for the 2016 release, a little over 2 years ago? I’m sure they will probably start using more recycled aluminium now they’ve got the process down with the new MBA, it’s a logical next step to roll it out across more products...
Of course if Apple can save $2.00 per MBP and have a sales bump of a new Chasis and marketing. That’s a cool Billiondollars probably. August 2019 Back 2 School will likely be EOL of current MBP Chasis and clearing the retail channel of old MBP. With a New Chasis, late 2019.
I think they want 2020 to be a big year for major launches: iPhone, MacBook Pro and possibly the iPad Pro might see revised chassises.
Then again, it appears the current generation MBP engineering process is what took Apple so long to launch it. Originally they were hoping for 2015, but gimmicks like Touch Bar and butterfly keyboard pushed it out.
The most sane improvements users are looking for is return of function keys or function keys in addition to Touchbar and Face ID. Touch ID should remain, would be great for 2FA.
Apple should include a A Series chip so users will be able to run the same apps that will be available on the A-Series MacBook launching in 2020. That could be Apple’s strategy for slowly weaning itself off intel until all the Apps are there and the A-Series is comparatively powerful enough to go head to head with the best from Intel.
If Apple can get the key apps on the platform: Adobe CC, Office 365, then it shouldn’t be such a bumpy ride; plus it will be opening up the Mac ecosystem to couple million more apps and games.
New chassis design will probably debut in summer 2020, barring any issues that cause it to be pushed back like the 2016 model was. MBPs have basically been on a summer release cycle since the 2014, with only the 2015 13" (because of Intel's chip cycles) and the 2016 (supposedly battery design issue) not launching between May and July. It's not impossible they will switch it up but going by past form I'd say thats the baseline of what to expect.
I will get a new MBP and replace my 2013 once I am sure I get a 100% reliable keyboard.
I was reading a Twitter thread the other day and users of the late 2018 and Mid 2018 models are still having keyboard issues.
Apple really needs to back track on this and go back to the previous chassis.
As if Apple is the only company who does this. It’s a business, that’s what buisness do. Google, MIcrosoft, Samsung even your local corner store. Nothing shocking about it, at least Apple products bring value to people lives in many ways for customers to keep buying their products and justifying the prices.
Agreed. They will push the limits of how much consumers are willing to pay until something like the recent iphone sales forecast realignment happens. They won't know until they tried and it's true for every organization. Greed gets us all at some point.