iPad Pro Waiting on bezel size reduction on the 12.9" iPad Pro...

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  1. TimurCologne macrumors newbie

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    We have been waiting long on bezel size reduction on the 12.9" iPP, and it didn't happen...

    What do you think will they update next year the 12.9" iPP and make it slimmer like the new 10.5" iPP or will they leave it as is?
     
  2. bufffilm Suspended

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    What indications makes you think the Pros will be updated next year?

    Because I don't see that happening.

    I see 2019 as more likely time to see the next update. Force touch, OLED, and other goodies...
     
  3. sracer macrumors 604

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    Who is "we"?

    I'm beginning to believe that the 2nd gen 12.9 Pro is the last model of that form factor. I would not be surprised to see an 11.7" Pro with the 10.5 bezel sizes.
     
  4. sonicrobby macrumors 68020

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    I prefer they leave the thickness as is, I dont want the camera sticking out. I would hope for the bezel reduction though, I think it improves the devices physical aesthetic. I fear that the 13" may just be incremental for the time being, just piggy backing on the internal improvements of the 10" pro.
     
  5. ascender macrumors 68020

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    I think that's exactly what will happen too, although I think it might depend on how easy these new flagship iPhones are to make. Has part of the challenge of removing bezels not been integrating all the sensors and cameras in to the screen itself? I think it will be an 11.something" Pro in the long run although I could quite easily see just a spec bumped range next year and then a radical overhaul the year after.
     
  6. danmart macrumors 6502a

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    Bezels are useful for holding the device without touching the screen, and the heavier the device the more important that is.

    A slightly smaller bezel might be nice, but nothing severe.
     
  7. klasma macrumors newbie

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    I don’t think a bezel reduction is particularly likely to happen.

    Current left/right bezel ratios relative to display width:
    7.9": 5.9 %
    9.7": 7.3 %
    10.5": 4.4 %
    12.9": 6.1 %

    Current top/bottom bezel ratios relative to display height:
    7.9": 13.2 %
    9.7": 10.9 %
    10.5": 8.7 %
    12.9": 8.3 %

    So the left/right bezel isn’t that bad on the 12.9" (it’s roughly the same as for the iPad mini 4), and the 12.9" actually has the smallest top/bottom bezel ratio of the current iPad line, including the 10.5".
     
  8. Relentless Power macrumors Core

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    I Agree. There is a difference between having no bezels and reduced bezels. I personally have an appreciation for bezels to prevent any inadvertent touches on the display. But the 40% Reduced bezels on the 10.5 iPad does give the device a much cleaner appeal.
     
  9. prospervic macrumors 6502

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    Oh yes, that's coming. Probably next year. Couldn't wait, however -- already placed my order. I've been itching to get True Tone and the wide color gamut on the 12.9 for over a year now.
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    Very interesting! So that's why it's hard to tell which size iPad they're using in the WWDC onstage demos and the new promotional materials.
     
  10. TimurCologne thread starter macrumors newbie

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  11. Steve686 macrumors 68030

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    Maybe not until they introduce the MacPadPro. A 13.5 and 14.9 inch bezel free touch tablet running MacOS.
     
  12. epca12 macrumors regular

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    We could see this next year, some reports suggested that would be a big year for iPads
     
  13. JohnnyGo macrumors 6502a

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    Also looking forward to a new iPad Pro version with 12-12.5" screen, reduced bezels and lighter.

    Question is timing: 12, 18 or 24 months for the next upgrade? I bet on 12 months given A11 new 10nm fabrication (lower power consumption, higher performance) and new iPad Pro screen size. That will also give Apple an opportunity to launch Apple Pencil v2 and new ASK keyboard (key travel, lighter, etc).

    After all, TC says the iPad is the future...
     
  14. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

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    There is no telling when or if they will change the physical form of the 12.9. People who elected to get this device were not looking for compactness.
     
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    THAT is true! LOL
     
  16. justinTlME macrumors 6502

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    I don't think think it needs a bezel reduction IMO. I haven't actually received mine yet, but from all the playing I've done in stores and how I would plan to hold it and take it around I don't see why you would want that room to go away. I think it's part of what still makes it look okay. I've used my wife's 10.5" and I LOVE it, but the non-existent bezels for the most part are just kind of odd. You really can't hold it anywhere on the sides without pressing the screen.
     
  17. DNichter macrumors 603

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    That'll never happen.
     
  18. Steve686 macrumors 68030

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    Solid argument.
     
  19. DNichter macrumors 603

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    It's just a unrealistic wish that gets repeated over and over in these forums. If anyone paid attention to Apple over the last 10 years, you would see that slapping macOS on a tablet is not the answer. iOS 11 is a good indication of where the company is going.
     
  20. macduke macrumors G3

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    I'm waiting, because it will happen eventually. But I'm waiting with a brand new 10.5", and hopefully in 2-3 years the 12.9" is completely without bezel and not very much bigger than the 10.5" with the bezel. I doubt we see it before then. I think it kind of depends on what the new high end iPhone has this autumn. That tech tends to trickle over to the iPad after some time—except 3D Touch, which I think is due to limitations of taptic engine feedback on such a large display. I really want to maximize the usable display space so I can have full size apps in multitasking. One thought I had is that in a few years they could do @3X iPads with an system setting to run them @2X resolution which would give more usable space for multitasking while still maintaining sharpness with the downside of smaller tap targets. I guess it depends on how the math works out on whether that's feasible and within their iOS HIG limits.

    My dream next iPad around 3 years from now would be 12" bezel free with a footprint about the size of the 10.5", 10-bit display @3X retina, Touch ID in the display, weigh 1lb or less, 8GB RAM, GPU in the 3-4Tflops range, 3D Touch, 12hr battery life, wireless charging, redesigned smart keyboard that uses a butterfly mechanism and backlighting, dual-lens camera, water and shatter resistant, and has a six-core A11X that could take on a 15" MBP.
     
  21. DNichter macrumors 603

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    The future certainly seems brighter for iPad these days.
     
  22. macduke macrumors G3

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    Yes, and the biggest thing that I feel is holding it back in the long run is the display size. Desktop displays have gotten bigger and bigger and we've become more productive along with it. But the iPad feels like it could never match a 27" iMac, even if it was faster with a better display and full background multitasking and utilities. There's just something about a certain size that lends itself to extreme multitasking and the utmost productivity. It will be really interesting to see how the software evolves to address this, along with bezel reductions and possible larger displays. I think the ultimate device would be the 7.9" iPad Mini that unfolds into a 15.8" iPad Pro. Perhaps someday…
     
  23. The Game 161 macrumors P6

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    12.9 won't be changed anytime soon

    They are making it or marketing it as a laptop replacement after all
     
  24. alba63 macrumors member

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    Wow, yes, that would be "my" size and form factor. 12.9 a bit too much for me... (and, as it seems, for others)
     
  25. Hym tix macrumors member

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    Doesn't Apple seem to have a cycle of upgrading internals drastically or form factor? Not both at once? 2017 was a internals and screen year.

    I'm with the OP on this. It will be great if the next revision for 12.9 iPad Pro has a new form factor, especially reduced bezels.
     

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