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Funny how we didn't see this covered on MRs:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/nsa-steve-jobs_n_3895375.html

And how fitting a fingerprint sensor will be introduced tomorrow.
 
How is Facebook any more, or less, secure than another website? Isn't the idea of logging in to a site via Facebook a matter of convenience than it is of security?
Lifehacker can explain the basics better than me: http://lifehacker.com/5918086/under...g-into-a-site-with-google-twitter-or-facebook
in short, passwords on sites are weaker unless the site has spend as much money as Facebook on security plus they would need to hack the site + facebook to actually obtain your password and logins.
 
If it's the same bleeding 4 inch screen, I hope someone in the crowd yells out "BOOOO". I would if I were there. Guess I'll know if I'm coming out of pocket for a $700 Note 3 in a few hours.

Just found out today that the Note 3 can shoot 4k video, too. More and more I'm being pushed to getting my first Android phone.

Maybe you should just get a Note 3. Or maybe a nexus 7. Besides a few inches and telephony, what's the difference anyways?
 
No, you waterproof all of the internal components.
Something that's already been done so Apple will wait until they can buy the company that currently does it.

Yes I saw a demo of an iPhone treated by them.Looked stock,but completely waterproof.I'd love to see the process,and see how it holds up.Also there was a company(maybe the same one)selling waterproofed shuffles to swimmers.
 
Yes? Are you going to expand or just say hold up stop?

I have used it for 2 months, basically the same os with some minor updates.

Besides aesthetics, Control center, airdrop, redesigned safari, and iCloud keychain all stand out as more than minor updates to me.
 
I think Apple could also expand this to the Mac. Imagine having an iPhone and a Mac. You get to a page where a Credit Card/login is required so click a button for AirLock (or whatever they decide to call this feature), an alert opens on your iPhone, you scan your fingerprint on the phone and BOOM, your Credit Card info/username and password is entered into the page. :cool:


This will be awesome!
 
This is the kind of thing that (almost) makes me want to stop reading rumors. It seems like a wildly futuristic and useful feature, something that I've never seen in a consumer-level product. But I know that I'll be bored by the announcement, and then I'll read all the posts talking about how Apple can't innovate, and I'll just be bummed that we all knew so exactly much about it beforehand.
Of course I'm watching.
 
I hope Apple isn't using your reasoning. iPhone could do a lot more without "putting off features for next year" with the mindset that "it's already good enough." I don't know about you, but I want Apple to be the company that's leading the market, not sitting on their hands thinking what they have is already great...

What has Apple REALLY brought to the table since the first iPhone? Retina Display, improved cameras, improved speed, Siri.... There haven't been any real innovations since the very first iPhone. So, I guess they've been sitting on their hands for years if you go by your logic.
 
As long as the fingerprint sensor can be turned off at the hardware level, much like location services, I don't really care that it's on the device, but I sure as heck won't be using it. It's not even paranoia about the NSA, it's that I know how easy fingerprint sensors are to fool. Your phone is much more secure using a password.

A password is digital, 1s and 0s, a pass-fail condition. Either you enter your password or you don't. A fingerprint is analog, and the sensor can only determine with a certain degree of certainty if it's your finger, somebody else's finger, a picture of your finger, or any number of things. So the software creates a probability, instead of pass-fail, and the software decides if the finger (or whatever) it's seeing is "close enough". It's only a matter of time before somebody figures out what Apple thinks is "close enough" and is able to bypass your lock screen without your finger. The more strict the software, the less usable the sensor and the more frustrating it is for the user, so to be sure, Apple's software won't be terribly strict.

Let's not forget, you're using your iPhone with your fingers all the time. It won't be difficult for somebody to get your print off of the iPhone, and use it with a fake finger of some kind to unlock your device. A fingerprint sensor makes your iPhone secure in the same way the password system makes your iPhone secure if you engrave your password on the back of your iPhone. I'll also point out, you can't give up your password when you're unconscious, but you can give up your fingerprint.

And sure, what the heck, if it's not the NSA grabbing your fingerprints right off the sensor, it's going to be somebody else. If Apple's software can get the fingerprint sensor to activate and take a reading, somebody else's software can to. Perhaps criminals, perhaps well-meaning but ignorant software developers who themselves may get hacked. Even if your fingerprint isn't terribly valuable today, plenty of people think it'll be valuable in a few years as biometrics of all kinds are used for financial transactions or whatever else.

A password is simply better. It's digital, so the software isn't making a probability-based decision to let somebody in, and it's hidden away in your head, instead of left behind on everything you touch hundreds of times a day.
 
Can't. Freaking. Wait.

Dual LED Flash.
Fingerprint Sensor.
Faster Processor.
Improved Battery Life.
New Colors.
iOS 7.
Improved Camera.

Let's Go!

Seriously? I think these will probably the main reasons i not going to upgrade my current (iphone 4).

Wait for iphone 6 and see how it goes.
 
As long as the fingerprint sensor can be turned off at the hardware level, much like location services, I don't really care that it's on the device, but I sure as heck won't be using it. It's not even paranoia about the NSA, it's that I know how easy fingerprint sensors are to fool. Your phone is much more secure using a password.

A password is digital, 1s and 0s, a pass-fail condition. Either you enter your password or you don't. A fingerprint is analog, and the sensor can only determine with a certain degree of certainty if it's your finger, somebody else's finger, a picture of your finger, or any number of things. So the software creates a probability, instead of pass-fail, and the software decides if the finger (or whatever) it's seeing is "close enough". It's only a matter of time before somebody figures out what Apple thinks is "close enough" and is able to bypass your lock screen without your finger. The more strict the software, the less usable the sensor and the more frustrating it is for the user, so to be sure, Apple's software won't be terribly strict.

Let's not forget, you're using your iPhone with your fingers all the time. It won't be difficult for somebody to get your print off of the iPhone, and use it with a fake finger of some kind to unlock your device. A fingerprint sensor makes your iPhone secure in the same way the password system makes your iPhone secure if you engrave your password on the back of your iPhone.

And sure, what the heck, if it's not the NSA grabbing your fingerprints right off the sensor, it's going to be somebody else. If Apple's software can get the fingerprint sensor to activate and take a reading, somebody else's software can to. Perhaps criminals, perhaps well-meaning but ignorant software developers who themselves may get hacked. Even if your fingerprint isn't terribly valuable today, plenty of people think it'll be valuable in a few years as biometrics of all kinds are used for financial transactions or whatever else.

A password is simply better. It's digital, so the software isn't making a probability-based decision to let somebody in, and it's hidden away in your head, instead of left behind on everything you touch hundreds of times a day.

My friend you're living in the past :eek: new fingerprint sensors cant be fooled like you see in old spy movies and sure as hell not with a picture of your finger lol

Not even if they chop your finger, current readers only work with live tissue.
 
Isn´t the A7 on new process tech however? Not talking about 20nm (that´s reserved for the A8). I also rather doubt more battery life, but what do I know.

Apple could do what Intel did with their Haswell processors on the MacBook Air's. Slight increase in battery capacity, significantly more efficient processor = much, much better battery life. Do the same with the A7 chip and battery life could be significantly increased, just as the Haswell processors significantly increased battery life on the Air's. There's already evidence that they've made the battery in the iPhone 5S slightly larger in capacity than it was in the 5, now all they need is the more efficient processor, and all signs are pointing to that being exactly what the A7 is all about.
 
Meanwhile... Most android phones carry this already.

Apple better be hiding something if they want my $

I hope you realize android also lacks quality on many levels (I refuse to go into detail as it always starts a war about what is and isn't and yet we see the same people short time later first ones to create threads like "S4 to iPhone" etc etc) and so we all know your going to give apple your money anyway:D
 
Seriously? I think these will probably the main reasons i not going to upgrade my current (iphone 4).

Wait for iphone 6 and see how it goes.

Get a grip mate, a damm iphone 4 ? Pain!

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Wait a second... How can the WSJ "confirm" anything? The only people that can confirm anything related to Apple is Apple. Yes the WSJ does have a good track record, but unless you quote somebody on the record from Apple, their "confirmation" is pointless and is just another person citing "people familiar with the matter". Hey, can I "confirm" rumors that have been already widely reported?

The fact that a newspaper doesn't REVEAL its sources doesn't mean they don't know exactly who they are. If they are saying it's confirmed, that means they have confirmation from people in a position to confirm it. And they are people who the WSJ feels are not going to lie.

Anonymous sources were good enough to bring down a crooked president. It didn't matter a bit that we didn't know who Deep Throat did. Woodward did.
 
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