Why would you buy clothes online?
Because it is more convenient. I usually just sit back go through a whole collection of clothing without the hassle of going through hangers and racks and annoying sales people following you around.
Why would you buy clothes online?
So you don't actually understand what got breached yet you blame the credit card companies for personal data lost?
The only personal data in the track data is your name. All other personal data Target lost came from their own databases and had nothing to do with the card companies.
This one is all on Target for failing to secure their systems.
For the 2 times I go to Walmart each year and the 5 times I go to Best Buy, I think I'll live.
I have found that the best way to be ignored at Best Buy is to actually need assistance. You'll be doubly-shunned if you know exactly what item you want and need them to get it out of the locked stocked area. I don't know how they know, but they know.Whoa. Tell me the secret to getting ignored at Best Buy. I'd love to be able to shop without their floor staff trying to "help" me all the time.
Damn. I've been in a Best Buy maybe five times in my life... Wal-Mart never.
Well technically if you only used the Chip and Pin portion (IE inserting it into the slot rather then swiping it) - it's be nearly impossible to hack.
Unfortunately not a lot of retailers have the capability to take the chip portion and your left swiping it - which negates the chip in the first place.
Ram scrapers have nothing valuable to scrape except when mag stripes are used. Target was a ram scrape. Hence the ultimate blame lies with those who stalled the chip and pin implementation.
Probably not a coincidence that both Best Buy and Walmart allow DirecTv salesmen to masquerade as store employees.
Amazon will need to adopt something. Since they compete with most retailers... this won't end well for them.
Its simple, they are looking at cost "woah, that much to support Pay over normal NFC, i don't care how secure it is, were going with normal NFC due to the cost" Once again, screwing over customer payment security to save some pennies. What would be neat is if they learned from their mistakes (i can see why target is adapting apple pay) and jumped on board to solve a problem. Now whats going to happen is normal NFC payments will somehow get hacked, because its going to be come a target for tech savvy thieves and Apple will get to say, "see, i told ya so"
do frequent shoppers at walmart have iPhones?
I would imagine that they probably still use Nokia refrigerator/phones.
Their loss.
Funny, the AT&T rep I was just talking to, kept pushing Best Buy as a place to get the iPhone 6 faster. Ah, no thanks. Never liked shopping there (no "Best" buys yet) and as others have said, it's crazy a tech store wouldn't support this.
If you live in the U.S. then you have a basis to be dissapointed. However if you live in the rest of the modern world then Apple has created a solution to a problem that has not existed for several years. As an example in Canada NFC payments have been in place since 2012. Also since that time, debit and credit cards have a NFC tab chip built into them. Just tap your debit or credit card at the checkout, no need to enter a PIN, and you're on your way.
It's funny how a bunch of you complain and say you won't shop there anymore... as if pulling a credit card out of your pocket is so difficult. You all sound like whining babies.
How quickly you're owed something that didn't exist a week ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEY58fiSK8E
How long to do you think it will be before the Gov steps in and start to investigate Apple ? I would say about 2 years from now. Apple is getting too big. Sorry but its about happen soon.
You're getting far too granular. I never mentioned anything that nitty gritty for you to refute.
The merchants/retailers are the ONES WHO ARE BEING ASKED TO ADOPT this Apple product/service. Period. The retailers are essentially on the hook for a lot of possible problems and general adoption issues. Period. Your reply is similar to me calling ATT and stating the service stinks and they tell me I should really call company ABC whose chips are on the cell towers. No. I pay ATT and I don't care how ATT services me. Ditto with Apple Pay...at the end of the day Apple is pitching this product/service to the retailers...and so far (for all if not more of my reasons) the retailers are not going forward with Apple.
My original post is valid.
While I thinkPay on the iPhone looks pretty solid. The
Watch opens up all sorts of security problems. They really should just make TouchID on the iPhone 5s+ the only way to unlock the watch, rather than giving full, fast and untraceable access to all your credit cards via a single pin.
As much as people are bashing walmart and best buy there are a lot more retailers that are under Merchant customer exchange that we wont be seeing under apple pay.
Here some list of retailers
Walmart
Best Buy
Target
Lowes
Dillards
Kohls
Bed bath beyond
Kmart
Micheals
meijer
Sears
Gap
Old navy
Banana republic
Shell gas
76
exxonmobil
circle k
7-11
Rite aid
CVS
And a lot more.
Interesting that the rumor of CVS was going to be under apple pay but they are still listed under merchant customer exchange and not in the apple site part of apple pay. As much as people are excited about apple pay I dont see it gaining much traction. Merchant customer exchange has been around for a long time and has plenty of retailers under their belt. So far the list for apple isnt great the only place I go to on their list is petco just to buy my dog food.
Right but my point is, they could still steal your credit card or debit card number. Apple Pay doesn't change that. It eliminates the possibility it may be stolen right there but it's still not completely solving the problem people could get ahold of the number and still use it. Presumably that would become less likely the more you're able to use Apple Pay (less exposure).
And reasoning for that is because if you read up on MCX, merchants are prohibited from supporting competitor's system. WHEN MCX fails, they already have the terminals in place. Nobody is going to want a second or third app on their phone.
Not quite. "Your phone" should be "your iPhone 6 (or later)". There are none out there now and in the next year I doubt it will amount to more than 5% of all smartphones worldwide. I can't blame retailers for not jumping in on a solution that so few people can use for at least a couple years or more.
But they don't match the lack of sales tax charged. People in many states are supposed to self report what they bought from Amazon and the like and pay with their state income taxes....but few do. This advantage is probably only temporary and has already been done away with in some states that have forced Amazon to collect for them. But for now there is an advantage to buying from Amazon.
Well then I think you need to take Business 101 because you're getting personal and not speaking from a business standpoint.
Hit up Payson, AZ, lovely town, but if you want anything at all, you gotta go to Walmart. They literally don't have anything else and according to locals, before Walmart, they didn't have ANYTHING and had to drive to Phoenix to pick up basic necessities like shoes or clothing.I don't understand all the Walmart hate. I do understand the whole "they killed the smaller merchant" mentality but other than that, not so much. They offer the same mix of decent stuff and junk that Kmart, Target and others offer. Just more of it and greater variety. Because they do offer lower prices (at least theoretically) you will find the poorer members of the community tending to shop there. But you shouldn't hate on poor people, you may be poor some day. In a lot of communities, Walmart is the only option for a store of its type.
Then there is a serious compatibility issue and Apple is disobeying the EMV spec. There NEEDS to be a de-tokenisation process available for mass transit and similar applications (to track tap-in/tap-out from the same phone and across days/weeks/months for fare capping and travelcards). De-tokenisation is specified by EMVco so if Apple follows the spec then it IS possible to track. If Apple doesn't follow the spec, the product is rubbish.
I don't think they realize quite how big of a barrier that is for many people. Especially if Apple Pay is working at lots of other places and they already can use that on their phone without a download. Plus, it's not just a download, you'll also have to create yet another account, with another password, sign in, etc.
You are saying that all of a sudden, Wal mart which is frequented by millions of people who buy their daily necessities will lose business just because people with iPhone 6 in particular, with NFC will not shop there?
Okay.
Oh no! So I'll have to keep paying with my credit card, check, or cash at best buy and Walmart?! So? That's not really a deal breaker.
Oh, and FYI, just because some of us shop at Walmart, does not mean that we're poor. Having a credit card with a high credit limit doesn't make you rich either.