Chip isn’t as anonymous as Apple Pay which is why Walmart can still use chip and not Apple PayIn the US Apple was counting on the fact that because of new Visa regulations that went into effect in October 2016 all companies where going to have to upgrade their terminals. Almost all new terminals manufactured have the required NFC chips. In the US if a company does not have a chip terminal, Visa is holding the company liable for any fraud that occurs. Before last October as long as the signature on the credit card receipt matched the one on file with the card issuing bank, the company that took payment for the card would not be held liable for fraudulent transactions.
Part of the security in the new chip based card (and Apple Pay) is the actual account number is not transmitted to the retailer. A one time use number is sent instead. This makes it very difficult for companies to store your credit card number and develop a lifetime purchase history for you. What Apple was not counting on was that this purchase history data was so important to the retailers that they would decide to accept the liability shift for fraudulent transactions instead of giving up this purchase history data. Even when the retailer has upgraded the terminals they are turning of the chip reader and the NFC capabilities to preserve your purchase history data.
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I send money to friends without fees all the time. Use the Zelle feature.Yeah, this was a huge shock to me when I moved to the US - Why does nowhere have NFC payments? Why don't chip readers require a pin when using a credit card? Why can't I go on my bank's website and transfer money to my friend's account for free? Why is there a fee to use an ATM that isn't owned by my specific bank?
The US is ahead of the curve in a lot of areas, but personal banking is definitely not one of them.
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Also Canadian terminals are owned by a few banks, TD, Moneris, Chase etc.Yep, it's comparing a single store method with a multi-store method. It's a stat that's mostly only of interest to the cardless payment industry.
When it was first revealed that Apple was taking a percentage of each contactless purchase for DOING NOTHING during one, my first thought was that "Whoa, they're going to offer Apple users a kickback and that's going to sell zillions of iPhones!". But no, it was just typical Apple greed.
You guys are thinking backwards. USE the system to your advantage instead. Join all the discount cards, etc. Heck, I save hundreds of dollars a year with my CVS card alone, much less my supermarket member cards.
You're going to get ads no matter what. And your bank STILL KNOWS WHAT YOU ARE DOING, which is infinitely more critical to your life than a store knowing you bought something (so they can offer you incentives).
You see, the store is just going to send you ads and coupons. Big whoop. Actually useful!
But the bank is going to look at when and where you are spending your money, and adjust your credit accordingly. E.g. if you buy liquor in the middle of the day, which do you think is more important: that the store might send you a coupon, or that the bank might think you've lost your job?
The banking industry does not want perfectly secure payments. They make a ton of money by charging for taking the risk associated with current cards. They're already taking heat from Congress for keeping the same rates even as chip cards roll out.
Actually, Canada took many years to roll out contactless payments. With far more banks and POS terminals, then using Canada's timeline, it would take literally decades for the US to switch over. But it won't.
Note: it's not a one time account number. It stays the same. Eventually retailers will match it up to you, and it wouldn't be surprising if there aren't already places that sell and share that matchup info. Heck, they did it with MAC addresses when Apple removed the device id from advertisers.
Yep.
But with US, large retailers use terminals fully integrated in with their POS systems. In Canada it’s easy for them to roll out en masse, US, not so much