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Sort of... you can recharge your Starbucks Card using ApplePay, but you can't use ApplePay directly for payment of a purchase. They're apparently working towards making that possible towards the end of the year.

The above applies to the US only. In the UK all Starbucks stores accept Apple Pay and have done since launch.
 
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yeah....no thanks to that. Walmart is one of the few stores in Canada that don't have NFC terminals. Home Depot doesn't either. most other places do and I use it all the time. Now that Apple Pay has Visa support up here with RBC I will be able to use Apple Pay even more, Amex has terrible penetration up here
 
Although I haven't used it (and probably won't) seems like a major FAIL.
Hope so, maybe they'll learn nobody wants to use an entire app for one store.
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The quote is:

"The service was built to make shopping easier and faster, something we know our customers want"

But they don't say what it's easier and faster than. Presumably they mean cash or card, which may be true, but they don't mention that Apple Pay is easier and faster than even Walmart Pay.
By the time guy B unlocks his phone I've already paid (Guy A, me, using Apple Pay, Android Pay, or Samsung Pay, and Guy B using Walmart Pay
 
All mobile payment methods I have seen so far are still lacking imo. None will give you monthly stats on what you purchase. I want to see the breakdown of my purchases, how much I spend on gas or food or entertainment.

That's a service your bank should provide... Apple wouldn't be capable of telling you that because they don't know about your whole fiscal situation. IE, you probably don't and never will use Apple Pay for your mortgage, or for buying your car.

Navy Federal Credit Union gives me the breakdown on where all of my money comes from and goes in any arbitrary time frame of my choosing.
 
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I suppose they may eventually allow in app ApplePay and then this would function more or less like the ExxonMobil app.

I just don't understand what this gets them...won't they have to pay card not present fees? They will know who you are by your app profile I guess, but is this info so valuable that they'll pay higher fees? They sure weren't successfully cutting the credit card companies out with their solution.
 
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My guess is the only people that will use this are diehard Walmart goers interested in saving $0.50 on their next box of cereal. The VP's in Bentonville will wonder why Walmart Pay adoption is low, and a bunch of developers will get canned. Walmart starts accepting Apple Pay in 2018.

You don't really understand the role Walmart serves in the communities it serves. In many cases Wal-mart is the only store providing some products and services. In almost all cases, it's the lowest-priced alternative. The customers who shop there can therefore be the poorest and wealthiest, as well as everyone in between. Pay is likely a rare option in many such communities.

Now, unlike Pay, all Walmart employees are going to be thoroughly trained to use Walmart pay. Add to that a captive audience for the employees to sell the service as their customers check out. I've not yet seen any incentives being offered, but that's a major reason for a customer to consider it as well. Not to mention, Walmart pay might actually be easier to use than chip cards, given that customers are being forced into changing the way they pay anyway.

All things considered, the adoption and use rate is likely to be far superior to Pay from the beginning.
 
Really? I keep my credit cards in my wallet, and keep my wallet in my pocket; I had assumed most people did something similar. What do you do-- keep your credit card loose in its own pocket, or wear it on a chain around your neck?
He wears it on a lanyard around his neck like the theme park tickets
 
Not going to see me running out to test this one like :apple:Pay.

Why the hell would I want to support something slower than a credit card?

Are we going to end up with 20 payment apps on our phones, one for each store? What a joke. This is about everything EXCEPT the customer.
 
Really? I keep my credit cards in my wallet, and keep my wallet in my pocket; I had assumed most people did something similar. What do you do-- keep your credit card loose in its own pocket, or wear it on a chain around your neck?


Force of habit. If I'm paying for something I will pull out and swipe my card in 2 seconds. (My wife can do it at ninja speed). When I'm at one of the few places that uses Apple Pay, I've already got my card out and swiped before I've thought about pulling my phone out and using NFC.

If NFC gets (a LOT) more market penetration or if Apple implements an MST solution, I would think of my phone first. But since it only works on less than 5% of the places I make a purchase each month, it's a slower process.
 
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All mobile payment methods I have seen so far are still lacking imo. None will give you monthly stats on what you purchase. I want to see the breakdown of my purchases, how much I spend on gas or food or entertainment.

That's called Mint or using your banking website/statements. You don't want these stats in a payment service as it invades your privacy.
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Sort of... you can recharge your Starbucks Card using ApplePay, but you can't use ApplePay directly for payment of a purchase. They're apparently working towards making that possible towards the end of the year.

You can use ApplePay at starbucks. I've done it several times now.
 
There are times you read and hear about something that you have to ask yourself "why?" and shake your head in disbelief. This is one of those times.

You'd think after the entire industry and customers went a different direction Walmart would have adjusted their plans.
 
That's the biggest hurdle for mobile transactions. For most people pulling a card is faster than easier....and better than fumbling with your phone and hoping the transaction works.

You sound like someone who has never used Apple Pay. AP is the fastest and easiest way to pay for anything, and that includes cash considering that you don't have to deal with change jiggling around in your pockets. And it has worked for me 100% of the time in stores that accept it.
 
I don't get the criticism of this new system. How is it different than using the Starbucks app to get your coffee?

I don't use the Starbucks app. I will use Apple Pay to buy my coffee at Starbucks when they support it, however.
 
Sweet they're releasing an app in two state where the general population still uses a flip phone and doesn't know what an "App" is.
 
Walmart was all up in arms the other day about debit card interchange fees, claiming they went up a little after Walmart rolled out their chip and signature system throughout the United States.

If Walmart thinks they're going to damage the card brands with their new system, they're very wrong. My Citi Double Cash World MasterCard provides more in rewards than Walmart's own system would.
 
You sound like someone who has never used Apple Pay. AP is the fastest and easiest way to pay for anything, and that includes cash considering that you don't have to deal with change jiggling around in your pockets. And it has worked for me 100% of the time in stores that accept it.
Agreed. Apple Pay's pretty slick once you've used it a few times.
 
While I agree with the majority opinion here that Walmart should embrace the existing digital payment options, I don't get the criticism of this new system. How is it different than using the Starbucks app to get your coffee? I don't see an uproar about that application, in fact it seems quite popular.

Walmart is trying to bypass the card networks completely. Starbucks uses their digital rewards card for just rewards and to load with a card from one of the card networks.
 
Force of habit. If I'm paying for something I will pull out and swipe my card in 2 seconds. (My wife can do it at ninja speed). When I'm at one of the few places that uses Apple Pay, I've already got my card out and swiped before I've thought about pulling my phone out and using NFC.

Those days are coming to an end quickly. Since chip cards were activated last Oct. the # of stores that still swipe is diminishing quickly. By the end of the year most major companies will have transitioned to chip. Article in last weeks WSJ noted that stores w/ swipe are getting to the point where the amount of refunds due to fraudulent charges they have had to issue since Oct has made it cost effective to switch over to push that cost back onto the banks.
 
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