iCloud is quicker. Last time I dealt with this BS it took over 2 hours to transfer before I could use my phone. With iCloud method, at least I can use my phone while backup data is coming down.
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Warning: Update Your iPhone 15 to iOS 17.0.2 Before Transferring Data From Another iPhone
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As part of the setup process, you will be prompted to update iOS.
I did it even before knowing there could be an issue. Then you can transfer your old iPhone to you shiny new toy ☺️
I have just upgraded to the 15 Pro. It automatically found and prompted to download the update during the initial setup. I transferred data from cloud (from an 17.01 updated 13 mini) and all has gone smoothly.
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People pay a premium for a reason. People join the Apple ecosystem for a reason. It used to be: "it just works".
Now it's more like:
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Yep, and when we all sit back and say nothing, the more bugs and more serious bugs happen instead of less.
Expectation is important for both companies and individuals.
So if you don't mind Apple's QA going into the trash, just sit back and suffer.
Me, I want Apple's quality to improve and am going to be as loud as possible.
Because even 'Most Pro's' fail sometimes
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I'm not sure how this is an 'epic fail' as many are saying. I own any number of machines (computers, gaming consoles, etc.) that **REQUIRE** updating to the latest OS/SW version before using them. At least this one is actually fixing an issue.
It's not - read more carefully. As long as you let the phone update during setup, you don't need a computer.
I'm sure they didn't test the Real Hardware before shipping because of secrecy at Apple. The developers don't know about real hardware until it's announced (may be only top devs had access to prototype) and only have access to stimulated devices for testing which is not always does a good job.
My thoughts exactly. You can tell in the comments who's written software and who hasn't. Sure it's unfortunate but you can test until you're blue in the face and some PROD issue thats created by some perfect storm of something that never appeared during testing is bound to happen at some point.
It's why bug fixes, patches, and updates exist.
If Steve was alive at least we'd get a funny story of him cussing at the devs and asking them why they're all idiots.. lol.
Day one patches are the norm for most consumer electronics, these days...
Gotta admit, I haven't done this in a while...
How does one transfer all of your photos, imessages etc. but starts fresh with apps?
How does one transfer all of your photos, imessages etc. but starts fresh with apps?
People who are reporting epic fail, sack Craig, sky is falling in etc are not reading the experience of people who have actually done it....the update happens automatically before transfer.
Sounds like a mafia warning. "Do as we want or YOU WILL ENCOUNTER ISSUES!". 
The other thing people are missing is iOS 17 was still in beta two weeks ago. So they only have days to go from beta to RC and load these new phones with an OS before boxing them and shipping them off.
Apple makes the decision when to end beta, when to manufacture phones, when to ship phones, when to release a new OS etc. Totally within Apple's control, every single decision.
Am I mistaken in thinking there's a decent number of devs here?
Anyways, I am one (my company actually does some backend work for Apple, but nothing to do with this), and no, bugs don't have to happen.
We're a 5K person company. We end up with major bugs in production once every few years - maybe a minor bug once a year. Every time a bug happens, we examine our QA processes and improve them to ensure that class of bug doesn't happen again.
The bugs are always bizarre edge cases - often a customer is abusing a product in unexpected/unintended ways, IE, a few years ago we had someone shoving files with UTF-16 encoding into a service that officially wanted UTF-8 files but unofficially mostly handled other encodings.
So... it's really sloppy that Apple has the exact same bugs showing up time and again, from customers doing normal stuff.
