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Watch Apple's M1 MacBook Pro Obliterate 2020 Intel MacBook Pro in Speed Tests
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Apple may want to complete the ARM transition first and then introduce redesigns for the computers after that.
I know you're joking but I legitimately use my 15" 2016 MBP for this reason. It keeps me warm in bed while my room is freezing cold.But it heats the house so well in the winter.
I wish there was a dual-CPU version (M + Intel). I also need x86 for work (VS etc.), albeit Parallels is OK for me and don't necessarily need BC.
Might be the easiest but definitely not the most. I didn’t know you could trade in such a new machine.
And here I am still rocking a 2013 macbook air in 2020 (and will do for another year at least).
From the same articleIt appears according to Anandtech the M1 GPU uses less then 18 watts. Still pretty impressive seeing the M1 GPU process H265 4K video using less then 8 watts.
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In multi-threaded scenarios, power highly depends on the workload. In memory-heavy workloads where the CPU utilisation isn’t as high, we’re seeing 18W active power, going up to around 22W in average workloads, and peaking around 27W in compute heavy workloads.
Best release ever, until the current one. Still have one lying around
Hah! I did the "open ALL the apps!" thing, too.
On my new M1 Mac mini, I did it on the account first created, right after initial setup. On my 16" MacBook Pro, I created a new account so that at least that account would be in the same state as on the Mini. On that account, I quit all "start up for all users" apps before trying.
But I chose "all default macOS Big Sur apps in the main Applications folder - except "alternate UI" apps - Launchpad, Mission Control, Siri, Time Machine. I didn't include FCP, I didn't include anything in the "Utilities" folder.
Before "the real run", I "pre-"opened them all, went through all the "first time run" prompts each app popped up. So that when I did the mass-open-all, they would all launch to "ready to go" state. This meant adding an empty email account to Mail (I created a new iCloud account for this test,) dismissing all the "Welcome to tv!" "Welcome to Music!" "Hey, here's how to use Pages!" type prompts. I did notice that a few apps popped up a different "grab your attention" pop-up on the second launch, so had to do the third run as the "real run."
To make sure RAM caching didn't impact - once I verified that all apps launched in to "ready to use" with no obnoxious bouncing icons, I rebooted, opened QuickTime Player to screen record, opened Activity Monitor (so it would be open so I could check the RAM tab,) started the screen recording, then Cmd-O, click "Yes". Of course, Automator randomly decides when it wants to bounce-for-attention... It did for M1, didn't for Intel. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
On my new M1 Mac mini, I did it on the account first created, right after initial setup. On my 16" MacBook Pro, I created a new account so that at least that account would be in the same state as on the Mini. On that account, I quit all "start up for all users" apps before trying.
But I chose "all default macOS Big Sur apps in the main Applications folder - except "alternate UI" apps - Launchpad, Mission Control, Siri, Time Machine. I didn't include FCP, I didn't include anything in the "Utilities" folder.
Before "the real run", I "pre-"opened them all, went through all the "first time run" prompts each app popped up. So that when I did the mass-open-all, they would all launch to "ready to go" state. This meant adding an empty email account to Mail (I created a new iCloud account for this test,) dismissing all the "Welcome to tv!" "Welcome to Music!" "Hey, here's how to use Pages!" type prompts. I did notice that a few apps popped up a different "grab your attention" pop-up on the second launch, so had to do the third run as the "real run."
To make sure RAM caching didn't impact - once I verified that all apps launched in to "ready to use" with no obnoxious bouncing icons, I rebooted, opened QuickTime Player to screen record, opened Activity Monitor (so it would be open so I could check the RAM tab,) started the screen recording, then Cmd-O, click "Yes". Of course, Automator randomly decides when it wants to bounce-for-attention... It did for M1, didn't for Intel. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Beside 3D performance if you have an Higgs end GPU, it is much more possible M1 will destroy your smack and my Mac anyway. About ports... a good PRO Thunderbolt hub/dock is way cheaper than eGPU. I have quite experience with egPU, I was using them since virtually nobody know the name, modding generic Thunderbolt boxes. And thanks to eGPU.io I’ve been the first to boot with a Radeon on Thunderbolt 3. Believe me I love eGPU but if Apple can deliver a second gen even more faster, eGPU will start to have less and less appeal.
I will try myself very soon, I have a top of the line MacBook Pro 13” i7 with Mantiz Saturn Pro with Radeon RX 5700 XT and ordered MacBook Pro 13” M1 16GB.
Ah eGPu are recognized by M1 Macs, just AMD drivers are missing... we can still hope.
You’re going to be sorry for that.
I really would have preferred with the M1 as limited as it is to see the return of the "Retina MacBook" 12" laptop. Make that one the fanless one with the specs of the new MacBook Air, have the MacBook Air keep the fan and be the "powerful portable M1".I would like to see an 11” or 12” M1
Just too many compromises in the "Pro" machines to call it Pro.
If they didn't want to bring back a different chassis, just do like the did in 2008 and call the new M1 model in the Pro chassis just "MacBook". (In 2008, when the non-Pro MacBook line was made of white polycarbonate plastic, they made one "MacBook" model that was Aluminum like the MacBook Pro - it was missing features the Pro line had. The Pro wasn't yet available in 13" - the next year, the exact same chassis got the full Pro treatment.)
I’m calling ******** on that story. The x86 processor can’t be made power-efficient in the same way as an ARM chip. They’ve been trying for a decade.
I get it, it is fast. super fast. but the intel one is "literally melting"? Literally? your video is not showing anything literally melting, metaphorically yes; literally no.
It really depends on what they're going to use it for.
The M1 systems are blazingly fast (on par with my much-more-expensive 16" MacBook Pro,) but there are still plenty of uses that they fall *FAR* short - only being able to use one external display on the mobiles for example. I regularly use three external displays on my 16" MacBook Pro. I couldn't go back to just internal+1 external. Need GPU compute? M1 is good, but it isn't eGPU good, and the M1 can't use an eGPU. Need to use Intel virtual machines? Can't do that on M1 yet - and depending on workload, it may be able to emulate it "nearly as good as" Intel, but for other workloads, it will ALWAYS be worse. Need to run Windows? Can't right now - and likely never will be able to natively.
Yeah, definite *** statement. Yes, Intel *CAN* be made massively power efficient - sacrificing compute power. Intel *has* made 5W and even 1W x86 CPUs. They just can't operate at the compute power of what Apple wants.
The higher end MBP’s will likely be the next to get the M chips. Use your current MBP till then. Seeing these performances absolutely no way I’m buying another Intel MBP when I can probably get an M 16 MBP in the next quarter or two.
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I found this real-world comparison video extremely comprehensive and useful too.
It's 2007 all over again!
It's 2007 all over again!