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Phil and Craig are cool. Not goons like Eddy. Is that really what you wear to a commencement ceremony? I swear Tim is cringing here.

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I think when you reach their status in society, you wear anything you want to wear as long as it is comfortable and decent. I am sure Steve wore his signature turtleneck and jeans at the Standford commencement speech. Remember, they are on the leadership team at the worlds most valuable company, I think most graduates are wondering if they will even get to score a job interview or a selfie with these two.
 
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I think when you reach their status in society, you wear anything you want to wear as long as it is comfortable and decent. I am sure Steve wore his signature turtleneck and jeans at the Standford commencement speech. Remember, they are on the leadership team at the worlds most valuable company, I think most graduates are wondering if they will even get to score a job interview or a selfie with these two.
Their status in society? They have no status, they're just some businessmen. Or do you mean money?
 
I think when you reach their status in society, you wear anything you want to wear as long as it is comfortable and decent. I am sure Steve wore his signature turtleneck and jeans at the Standford commencement speech. Remember, they are on the leadership team at the worlds most valuable company, I think most graduates are wondering if they will even get to score a job interview or a selfie with these two.

No he didn't.

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I've been assuming for some time, he'll be the next CEO. He's articulate, energetic, has the right delivery/timing for some of the cornball jokes, he recovers instantly from any flubs (his own, or technical). Look at this background: he worked with Jobs at Next, he's Berkeley educated with an MS/BS in CompSci/EE, he's got real technical chops combined with being a terrific showman.

Completely disagree. Not with your sentiments about Craig. But more so the fact as a CEO. I think Jeff Williams or Phil Schiller will be Cooks successor one day. Craig has a candor about him that is likeable and is highly intelligent, but Williams or Schiller seems to be the more appropriate choice.

My thoughts are Williams has played a huge role with the iPhone launch/iPod with world wide operations and was under Jobs wing since 1998 (Around the same time Cook Joined). He also has a long history with IBM in the mid/late 80's. And now with his involvement with Health Kit is uprising.
 
It's really getting to where there are four things that are especially worth watching from WWDC each year:
1. The keynote (of course),
2. The "Platforms State of the Union" presentation (of course),
3. John Gruber's "DaringFireball" live show (for off the cuff / behind the scenes remarks from top Apple folks),
4. The "Accidental Tech Podcast" live show (for John Siracusa's* well-reasoned take on the announcements).

*: he's the one who used to do the book-length in-depth reviews of each new OS X release for ArsTechnica.


ATP has become too snarky and cynical, and because of it, they lack the objectivity to give more insightful analysis. I still listen to them, but they are growing tiresome and are now wrong more often than they are right about what Apple is likely to do and why, and what is going to be successful. That's what happens when you color, subconsciously or not, your analysis to fit your mood, shtick, etc.

Best overall podcast is most anything with Jason Snell. He is objective, without being cynical or bitter, knows his stuff, and has thoughtful, interesting analysis with some humor sprinkled in.
 
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Craig Federighi for CEO! Tim is a lame duck, he has another agenda so let him do that with his millions.
 
It would be nice to have someone other than just Gruber doing the interviews. Yes, I know it's his podcast, but he isn't very good at it. Too much stuttering and he has a very annoying habit of prefacing every question with a long monologue of his opinion, etc. He also is obviously terrified to ask any questions that push against anything that Apple does. I don't think Phil and Craig would mind, and these interviews would be a lot more interesting if Gruber wasn't so fawning and obsequious. Perhaps they could get a second host, or alternate with another host, as Gruber is just not very good at this.
 
Craig Federighi for CEO! Tim is a lame duck, he has another agenda so let him do that with his millions.

If Mr. Cook's "another agenda" is the best interests of Apple, then I'll agree with you. You didn't mean that, so I don't.

Look. All of the bile against Cook ultimately comes down to he's not Steve Jobs. There's no more of those, he died. I assert that most of the criticism against Cook comes from unrealistic and what I say are child-like expectations. You crave the nostalgia of the rainbow-colored Apple. Things change. Technology evolves. We age, we wither, we pass on.

You're wanting to catch magic in a bottle again with a creative and refinement loving marketing wizard. Cook runs the operations and lets his technical guys lead. They've finally course-corrected on hardware.
 
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at the end when Phil tells John to think hard of any questions he might have forgotten to ask yet I was really hoping he would just ask them about the timeframe on the mac pro.
Like if we can expect it next year instead of their saying "not this year"...
John is too scared to ask that question. He might get fired.
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I think when you reach their status in society, you wear anything you want to wear as long as it is comfortable and decent. I am sure Steve wore his signature turtleneck and jeans at the Standford commencement speech. Remember, they are on the leadership team at the worlds most valuable company, I think most graduates are wondering if they will even get to score a job interview or a selfie with these two.
Do you know who steve jobs is?
 
I really wish to tell Craig that how buggy Finder is and this talk of Finder opening fast is nice but they should fix many bugs present since Yosemite in Finder. Spotlight is broken, very often it won't find the right result in the top hits or won't find et al. I think the teams responsible for Finder and Spotlight are really lazy and not doing their job properly and Craig can't seem to see it.
 
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He's too technical, not in a bad way, but in a good way. But I don't think he's CEO material.
Saying that, I don't know who I could see CEO of Apple, so maybe you might be right.
Schiller is the 'cool grandad' type figure.

Maybe Johny Ive?

Feddy is definitely one of my favourite people on stage, however.

Jonny wants to design stuff, and let the others worry about money and shipping and factories and partners...
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I really wish to tell Craig that how buggy Finder is and this talk of Finder opening fast is nice but they should fix many bugs present since Yosemite in Finder. Spotlight is broken, very often it won't find the right result in the top hits or won't find et al. I think the teams responsible for Finder and Spotlight are really lazy and not doing their job properly and Craig can't seem to see it.

What he's saying is that Finder would be now 64-bit, a lot of the cobwebs would be programmed out, and as it's a Window, it is now rendered by Metal. That's a good indication.
 



Daring Fireball has shared the full video of "The Talk Show Live" from Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference this week.

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Before a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose, Apple senior executives Craig Federighi and Phil Schiller joined host John Gruber to reflect on the company's announcements at its WWDC opening keynote on Monday, including several new Macs, macOS High Sierra, iOS 11, and HomePod.

The video, produced by Amy Jane Gruber and Paul Kafasis, is available on Vimeo and embedded below.


MacRumors has put together a WWDC 2017 roundup with the latest news and announcements from the conference.

Article Link: Watch 'The Talk Show' Live From WWDC 2017 With Craig Federighi and Phil Schiller
Gruber is a good writer, but man, of all the Apple pundits he's the biggest *******.
 
So, I guess you are superman and can see under his gown?
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Yes, I even have a couple replies from him actually. If you want proof, let me know.
I dont need proof. All good.
 
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