Watch 'The Talk Show' Live From WWDC 2017 With Craig Federighi and Phil Schiller

[ericg301]

I've been assuming for some time, he'll be the next CEO. He's articulate, energetic, has the right delivery/timing for some of the cornball jokes, he recovers instantly from any flubs (his own, or technical). Look at this background: he worked with Jobs at Next, he's Berkeley educated with an MS/BS in CompSci/EE, he's got real technical chops combined with being a terrific showman.

CEO doesn't mean MVP. It's someone with a strong business background and in Apple's sake, strong on operations.

Leave Craig to the tech stuff. Pay him as much as he wants. The next CEO will be someone on the operations side -- who understands and manages the supply chain.
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Dam Eddy, loose some serious weight in that new fitness center

Someone's not filling his rings...

 

[Muggy7]

[What he's saying is that Finder would be now 64-bit, a lot of the cobwebs would be programmed out, and as it's a Window, it is now rendered by Metal. That's a good indication.

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Finder has been 64-bit for sometime and he didn't say that its rendered by Metal. What I was saying about the bugs in Finder and Spotlight being kind of broken since Yosemite. I don't understand why it is taking so long to fix these two. I had reported these bugs two years ago and despite Apple engineers collected diagnostic data from my computer twice they didn't do anything. I have reported these bugs also while running betas and everything has fallen on deaf ears. I wish Craig can see it himself and kick these two teams. My faith in macOS has declined steadily since Apple has been refusing/tolerating bugs for years in macOS....

And about the new features, I don't understand why Preview can't support tabs. It's the application heavily used on Mac and still no tab support for it....[/QUOTE]

 

[Mr. Dee]

It would be hilarious surprise if they updated the MacBook Pro's again this fall with minor specs, maybe the 32 GB of RAM option.

 

[Soccertess]

If Mr. Cook's "another agenda" is the best interests of Apple, then I'll agree with you. You didn't mean that, so I don't.

Look. All of the bile against Cook ultimately comes down to he's not Steve Jobs. There's no more of those, he died. I assert that most of the criticism against Cook comes from unrealistic and what I say are child-like expectations. You crave the nostalgia of the rainbow-colored Apple. Things change. Technology evolves. We age, we wither, we pass on.

You're wanting to catch magic in a bottle again with a creative and refinement loving marketing wizard. Cook runs the operations and lets his technical guys lead. They've finally course-corrected on hardware.

I disagree with everything you said, and so do many many tech blogs and tech writers. You think i'm spill "bile" at Timmy o tool because he can't capture magic, or that i'm looking for nostalgia? Of course not!

I'm looking not not carry around dongles galore! I spit on Tim's name when I can't connect my new iphone headphones to my laptop. I cringe at the idea of ONLY USC-C, I CRINGE at the idea of ONE bloody port!

I cringe at the benzels of the iphone, the 3 year form factor, a missing jack, lack of Qi, or the lack of sharpness as samsung's screens. These aren't nostalgia, just bloody executive decisions.

FINALLY, i cringe at Siri and how useless it is compared to google now. I don't smile upon Nadella because of nostalgia, I greet him with open arms because he is leading the way with really cool ideas and products. Come on, if Musk can do what he did with self driving cars in 4 years, why can't Siri be half as good as good now.

You are right though, I craved for a home run product with Apple watch. Something that Tim promised, to revolutionize the way we live. His own words btw. What we got is an Iphone companion. I like it, maybe like musk said by version 3 it will be. Right now, I don't feel that revolution as when I saw the iphone, or used an ipad for the first time. Or the satisfaction with my macbook air arrived, or with my other products.


He is a lame duck CEO if he lets his hardware guys run a mock, and does not provide that strategic direction that made the entire ecosystem unique and unified at the same time. I saw let the bile flow all over Tim. That way, he can get the F out and maybe Craig Federighi can take a swing at bat!

 

[mdriftmeyer]

I've been assuming for some time, he'll be the next CEO. He's articulate, energetic, has the right delivery/timing for some of the cornball jokes, he recovers instantly from any flubs (his own, or technical). Look at this background: he worked with Jobs at Next, he's Berkeley educated with an MS/BS in CompSci/EE, he's got real technical chops combined with being a terrific showman.

As a fellow NeXT/Apple Engineering alum with Craig whose background is M.E. and Cpt.Sc. I can say with absolute certainty that Craig is not CEO material. He's technically astute but definitely nowhere near the background of Tim Cook whose own Industrial Engineering and MBA background is why Steve hand picked him from Compaq to be COO.

Craig is not a visionary type of personality, and nor is he an operations expert. Steve was visionary and Tim is operational. The world seems to think Apple needs visionary, but not operational. Steve left a foundation of teams to meet his standard of visionary expectations. They are doing exceptional work.

Only Steve has the maestro aspect of speaking to thousands as if he talks one-on-one. He perfected that. Let it go. It's not coming back.

 

[jumpingcoco]

only hope iPad Pro may have Terminal at some point... that's gonna be a real pro

 

[Tiger8]

Firstly, they probably are 'dads' and secondly, they're computer nerds.
I'd rather they be true to who they are, rather than wearing designer clothes for the sake of being fashionable.

A dad and a computer nerd shouldn't dress like someone from the mid 90s. There is no excuse for this poor fit. Also, if fashion isn't important, care to explain to me the $10k designer bands apple watches? More than any tech company, apple seems to be the one mostly vested in this world, so it's not too much to ask its senior leadership to dress like adults.

 

[mwidjaya]

ATP has become too snarky and cynical, and because of it, they lack the objectivity to give more insightful analysis. I still listen to them, but they are growing tiresome and are now wrong more often than they are right about what Apple is likely to do and why, and what is going to be successful. That's what happens when you color, subconsciously or not, your analysis to fit your mood, shtick, etc.

Haha, I enjoy ATP because apart from the analysis, they color it with their personal point of views. Certainly there are many times when I don't share the same view as them but that's ok.

I agree there is some shtick going on. In a way, they are the Top Gear (the older show) trio of tech podcasters.

 

[Tech198]

hehe *hint hint* Get a faster browser *hint hint* you know what i mean. Maybe the advertisers were all in on it as well.

only hope iPad Pro may have Terminal at some point... that's gonna be a real pro

.... it may only "seem" Apple is going that way with the dock, files in iOS 11, and all a gradual step before we get to a full blown OS and Terminal, could happen.... The only question is "why is Apple just dragging this out his long adding bits and pieces into "each" major update only... Look,,just cram it all in "one" update and be done"

 

[curtvaughan]

Did he ever claim to be Charlie Rose? I think he does pretty darn good talking to 2 of the biggest icons in the most famous/coveted company on Earth, for a self-made internet media personality. I'd love to see you keep your composure like that and get access to Apple executives like that.

The poster didn't say HE would be a better interviewer, but that someone like Charlie Rose would do a better job - and likely wouldn't be intimidated or star stricken by rich executive types. I'd like to see these guys interviewed by someone not necessarily friendly toward Apple, or at least neutral. One of my favorites was Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher doing the famous interview at D5 with Jobs and Gates. Absolutely astounding interview to watch, even today.

 

[satchmo]

A dad and a computer nerd shouldn't dress like someone from the mid 90s. There is no excuse for this poor fit. Also, if fashion isn't important, care to explain to me the $10k designer bands apple watches? More than any tech company, apple seems to be the one mostly vested in this world, so it's not too much to ask its senior leadership to dress like adults.

You dress for your audience. This is not some corporate meeting. We don't know how they dress for client meetings. In fact, their lack of pretention in their appearance likely makes them more relatable. People can see through BS...why do you think $20K apple watches were mocked?

Regardless, people are not going to buy a watchband because it looks cool on Schiller. That's why they have advertising and videos of young, fit users. That's how they mold perceptions. Again, speak to your audience.

Besides fashion is about style and how each person 'owns it'. Not sure why this is such a big issue...it's not as if they were unpresentable or offensive.

 

[D.T.]

As a fellow NeXT/Apple Engineering alum with Craig whose background is M.E. and Cpt.Sc. I can say with absolute certainty that Craig is not CEO material. He's technically astute but definitely nowhere near the background of Tim Cook whose own Industrial Engineering and MBA background is why Steve hand picked him from Compaq to be COO.

Craig is not a visionary type of personality, and nor is he an operations expert. Steve was visionary and Tim is operational. The world seems to think Apple needs visionary, but not operational. Steve left a foundation of teams to meet his standard of visionary expectations. They are doing exceptional work.

Only Steve has the maestro aspect of speaking to thousands as if he talks one-on-one. He perfected that. Let it go. It's not coming back.

FWIW, I'm, *ahem*, older with pretty deep understanding - and successful application of such - in both technology and business, so I totally understand what you've outlined. Mine was just an outsider's perspective of Craig seemingly bringing more of the old "mojo" to the stage, but of course, that doesn't in-and-of-itself mean he's a visionary, or suited to lead a company in a CEO role from tangible skills - it just _feels_ like he would be a great choice (he always such a breath of fresh air on stage).

There's probably a touch of projection as he has the most Jobs-like enthusiasm, with that nice foundation of technical acumen, but of course, you're right, that era has passed, and I've never been a "WWSD" sort of apologist for any modern Apple decisions (I quite enjoy most of their current direction).

 

[Otaviano]

ATP has become too snarky and cynical, and because of it, they lack the objectivity to give more insightful analysis. I still listen to them, but they are growing tiresome and are now wrong more often than they are right about what Apple is likely to do and why, and what is going to be successful. That's what happens when you color, subconsciously or not, your analysis to fit your mood, shtick, etc.

Best overall podcast is most anything with Jason Snell. He is objective, without being cynical or bitter, knows his stuff, and has thoughtful, interesting analysis with some humor sprinkled in.

I feel like it's mostly just Marco. Marco made a lot of shows, especially late last year, a burden to listen through. Complaining every week, going on long rants, then when you are already tired of it he adds little jab jokes to top it off.

Luckily I think Apple course correcting on the Mac will calm him down a lot and hopefully bring some balance back to the show.

 

[Defthand]

Did he ever claim to be Charlie Rose? I think he does pretty darn good talking to 2 of the biggest icons in the most famous/coveted company on Earth, for a self-made internet media personality. I'd love to see you keep your composure like that and get access to Apple executives like that.

It doesn't excuse promoting an event that was an utter waste of time. The conversation wasn't interesting nor entertaining on any level. The only people who would disagree are those who attended and were in awe of seeing their idols in person.

 

[eyeless]

John Gruber not asking anything of interest ... as one would have guessed. Would have been a good time to ask about the future of products not upgraded, nor removed, like Mac mini & AirPort. Questions about the high prices for keyboards now that Apple dumped the more reliable usb keyboards; not really offering any computers for school apart from a still somewhat expensive MacBook Air; etc.

 

[ericg301]

John Gruber not asking anything of interest ... as one would have guessed. Would have been a good time to ask about the future of products not upgraded, nor removed, like Mac mini & AirPort. Questions about the high prices for keyboards now that Apple dumped the more reliable usb keyboards; not really offering any computers for school apart from a still somewhat expensive MacBook Air; etc.

I'm pretty sure Apple PR said "here's what you can talk about. If you want to keep talking to these guys -- and us, stick to the list. Otherwise we're gonna pull a Gizmodo 2010 on you."

 

[truthertech]

It would be hilarious surprise if they updated the MacBook Pro's again this fall with minor specs, maybe the 32 GB of RAM option.

32GB RAM all depends on whether Apple has solved the problem of battery consumption. It appears that the Kaby Lake , and perhaps even Coffee Lake, chips won't support the needed LPDDR4 the standard, unless Apple has something up its sleeve with Intel, or Apple has figured out the issue with producing the larger tiered battery to make up for battery draw. Since Apple knows 32GB is the biggest remaining lament of some of the "pro" community, they undoubtedly have their best engineers working on solving this puzzle to get this issue off the table and keep MacBook Pro momentum going.

 

[CheesePuff]

So, I guess you are superman and can see under his gown?

I don't need to be Superman to see he isn't wearing a turtleneck under there....

 

[curtvaughan]

A good interview:

 

[Glideslope]

imo Craig should just handle the entire keynotes, he was the only one with any life in him up there at WWDC

Start the push for Craig to take over when Tim leaves.

 

[ErikGrim]

Phil and Craig are cool. Not goons like Eddy. Is that really what you wear to a commencement ceremony? I swear Tim is cringing here.

To be fair that is the most formal shirt he owns.
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I still enjoy ATP, but I do see where you are coming from. The different personalities amuse me. It's funny that Mr Hypercritical, John Siracusa, is the reasonable one. Marco is famous for his waffling, even on his old blog posts: The 2011 15" MacBook Pro is awesome. I'm going MacBook Pro ONLY!. Two days later: this thing sucks. The Marco that once made his living from Instapaper is gone. The Yahoo money has clearly changed him and his approach.

Listening to ATP over time there appears to be a clear pattern: In winter depression sets in and their episodes become extra whiny and cynical. I noted this on Twitter (without @Ing them) and it earned me a block from Siracusa. LOL.

Casey is always great however.

 

[gugy]

This same user stole and copied the video last year as well. Did they ask John Gruber for permission? Kind of a dick-move to copy someone's video and throw it up on YouTube.
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You listed a ton of amazing and impressive technical qualifications but I don't think Apple needs a technical leader. They need a leader who is good at numbers. Supply chain, customer satisfaction, shareholder dividends, global view of markets and currencies and suppliers, etc. tim is perfectly placed as CEO because he's surrounded by a group of VPs that are highly technical.

Steve's 2nd coming at Apple brought a Jobs that knew he wasn't an expert in these sort of things so he hired Tim, Phil, Jony, Bertrand, and Scott and for the most part, Jobs was big picture about almost every single topic but buck stopped there / first right of refusal for "stupid ideas". He seemed most focused on design than anything else.

Tim was a natural replacement. Jony's role grew, Tim didn't really meddle in the design aspect and everyone rose to more responsibilities.

I don't think Craig, a highly technical person would be the right leader for Apple. Just a gut feeling and very personal opinion.

I hope Craig is in it for the long haul, I just don't know if he's a CEO shoo-in. I'm leaning toward Jeff Williams or Phil Schiller being the guys most likely to be nominated. For the record, I love what Tim has done at Apple and hope he's leading the helm for a very long time and most importantly, has what it takes to step down / retire when the time is right. Nothing worse than a once capable CEO that is now out of their element or too 'semi-retired' to be effective sticking around just because they can. I hope we have Tim at least another 20 years. Being the guy that Steve picked carries a lot of weight with me and how I feel about him.

I agreed with you comment. I think Tim is doing a very good job overall. I will not lie that 6 months ago, I was very concerned because it did seem Apple had abandoned the Mac as pro tool. That roundtable couple months back giving us pro users a heads up about the state of Mac made me feel way more relaxed and hopeful. The iMac Pro is stunning and I think the upcoming Mac Pro and displays will make us love it and spend the $.
I can't wait.
That said Craig should be the main keynote speaker. He is the best one of all Apple executives.

 

[Mr. Dee]

32GB RAM all depends on whether Apple has solved the problem of battery consumption. It appears that the Kaby Lake , and perhaps even Coffee Lake, chips won't support the needed LPDDR4 the standard, unless Apple has something up its sleeve with Intel, or Apple has figured out the issue with producing the larger tiered battery to make up for battery draw. Since Apple knows 32GB is the biggest remaining lament of some of the "pro" community, they undoubtedly have their best engineers working on solving this puzzle to get this issue off the table and keep MacBook Pro momentum going.

They are going to do it, but users better accept, 32 GB will be optional at purchase. Then you are going to hear the complaint, 32 GB needs to be the default on the 15 inch MBP's, and 16 on the Touch bar 13 inch. When Apple does that, you will then hear about needing 64 GB. Cycle never ends.

 

[MacGizmo]

I guess we will see this fall

No. You won't. You won't see in the winter either. You won't see until mid to late next year at the earliest. My bet is late fall of next year for shipping a Mac Pro.

 

[TheTissot11]

It does support tabs, because the tab behaviour comes from the system. Try opening multiple windows and go to Window > Merge all windows and they will be tabbed. That it does not use tabs more prominently or encourage it is because it has a sidebar already that can be used for multiple files/documents which allows things like merging PDFs and moving pages etc.. It’s clearly a conscious UX decision, probably to not employ two UI elements that kinda do the same.

It's funny. Have you ever done that?? Because I can't do it and I doubt that you can do it either...
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Finder has been 64-bit for sometime and he didn't say that its rendered by Metal. What I was saying about the bugs in Finder and Spotlight being kind of broken since Yosemite. I don't understand why it is taking so long to fix these two. I had reported these bugs two years ago and despite Apple engineers collected diagnostic data from my computer twice they didn't do anything. I have reported these bugs also while running betas and everything has fallen on deaf ears. I wish Craig can see it himself and kick these two teams. My faith in macOS has declined steadily since Apple has been refusing/tolerating bugs for years in macOS....

And about the new features, I don't understand why Preview can't support tabs. It's the application heavily used on Mac and still no tab support for it....

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Why are you stealing my post???