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Watch with Stainless Steel Link Bracelet Orders
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This thread is for those that have ordered SS Watch w/ link bracelet. That timeframe was originally set as May 13 - May 27 if you were lucky enough to place an order soon after the preorder system became available on April 10. Apple hasn't indicated otherwise so it seems they will ship between May 13 - May 27.
I'm actually 100% positive we are gonna receive notifications and charges this week. If we take Apple's estimates literally as they're posted in our Order Status, we can see that the watches will be "Available to SHIP: 4-6 weeks". Keyword here is SHIP.
This coming week is the fourth week since the 10th of April. The watches will start becoming available to put on planes from China, to Anchorage to the U.S. starting this week throughout next week and the week after which happens to be the week before the 27th.
This seems to make sense. I don't know about getting the watch earlier than the 13th, but if my theory is correct, and Apple starts making some moves this week on our statuses/bank accts, then I can expect the watch on time with their delivery estimate.
The only thing that trips me out is the next day shipping they've been doing with every watch. If it's in the U.S. this week, I wouldn't see why we couldn't be getting some of them early (even though I'm not counting on it) Could we see earlier deliveries at all? I'm pumped for this week!!!!! Any type of movement is gonna hype me up!
This coming week is the fourth week since the 10th of April. The watches will start becoming available to put on planes from China, to Anchorage to the U.S. starting this week throughout next week and the week after which happens to be the week before the 27th.
This seems to make sense. I don't know about getting the watch earlier than the 13th, but if my theory is correct, and Apple starts making some moves this week on our statuses/bank accts, then I can expect the watch on time with their delivery estimate.
The only thing that trips me out is the next day shipping they've been doing with every watch. If it's in the U.S. this week, I wouldn't see why we couldn't be getting some of them early (even though I'm not counting on it) Could we see earlier deliveries at all? I'm pumped for this week!!!!! Any type of movement is gonna hype me up!
Possibly shipping next week
I have a friend who also ordered SS Link. He ordered with PayPal, but then lost and cancelled his cc tied to pp acct. When contacting paypal they stated he would have to handle with manufacturer. He called apple which stated paypal is a loan model and not a cc model. Meaning he can't just use a new card. Although Apple is trying to keep him in queue they stated if they can't resolve by 5/4 he would need to reorder. This made us believe they may be processing his order on the 4th.
I have a friend who also ordered SS Link. He ordered with PayPal, but then lost and cancelled his cc tied to pp acct. When contacting paypal they stated he would have to handle with manufacturer. He called apple which stated paypal is a loan model and not a cc model. Meaning he can't just use a new card. Although Apple is trying to keep him in queue they stated if they can't resolve by 5/4 he would need to reorder. This made us believe they may be processing his order on the 4th.
That's one interesting piece of info right there, thanks for sharing!!! Would make sense. My girlfriend's watch that was delivered on 4/24 got processed on a Monday as well.
I thought so too, but we will see. He went ahead and got back in queue just in case and his new date is July - August. He is obviously hoping Apple will come up with a solution. He is a first generation Apple guy and has almost every product. Spoke to Apple over an hour trying to resolve
Genuinely hope his issue is resolved. No one deserves to miss out on a watch because of dumb credit card/pay pal errors. Good luck!!
There were 38 different Apple Watch+band+size combinations offered by Apple on pre-order day, April 10th. Of those 38 Watch combinations, only 18 of those Watch+band+size combinations began to ship on April 24th. Most delays are being caused by the band, although I'm certain that the Watch Edition models may be facing a different set of issues.
From what I can see shipped on this forum, it appears that all of the fluoroelastomer bands (white, black, blue, green and pink) are shipping. The Classic Buckle band is shipping. The Stainless Steel Link Bracelet, Space Black Stainless Steel Link Bracelet, Modern Buckle and Leather Loop bands are NOT shipping. Any band that isn't shipping is causing the Apple Watch, that's paired to that band, to NOT ship as well. (Also, it doesn't appear that any of the Apple Edition Watches have shipped with their corresponding, custom bands).
You might think that Apple would contact the customers who ordered the bands, that were delayed on launch day, and ask them if they'd like to substitute a different band in order to receive either their aluminum Sports Watch, or their Stainless Steel ordered watch. But no, Apple has not reached out to their customers to help them with the delayed introduction of certain bands.
I'm still very frustrated at the fact that others are actually receiving their Apple Watches, while I sit and wait, simply due to the fact that I didn't order the "right" band.
P.S. Let's not get into the "you didn't look at the projected delivery when you ordered" argument again. This is simply a failure of Apple setting expectations of ALL watches being available on April 24th, and only delivering 18 out of the 38 Watch+band+size combinations.
(Note: Updated note to include sizes at launch. There are 42mm and 38mm creating 38 separate combinations of Watch+band+size that Apple offered at pre-launch. Only a 47% launch availability rate after the first week that Apple has shipped. And that's not counting the zero (0) availability in the stores, which, to my knowledge, has never happened during an Apple product launch. I hope Tim Cook and his executive team is holding a lot of meetings to decide why they thought they'd be ready to launch on April 24th, who didn't follow through on the watch band production issues and why this whole Apple Watch launch date has been mismanaged from a Watch+band product availability perspective.)
From what I can see shipped on this forum, it appears that all of the fluoroelastomer bands (white, black, blue, green and pink) are shipping. The Classic Buckle band is shipping. The Stainless Steel Link Bracelet, Space Black Stainless Steel Link Bracelet, Modern Buckle and Leather Loop bands are NOT shipping. Any band that isn't shipping is causing the Apple Watch, that's paired to that band, to NOT ship as well. (Also, it doesn't appear that any of the Apple Edition Watches have shipped with their corresponding, custom bands).
You might think that Apple would contact the customers who ordered the bands, that were delayed on launch day, and ask them if they'd like to substitute a different band in order to receive either their aluminum Sports Watch, or their Stainless Steel ordered watch. But no, Apple has not reached out to their customers to help them with the delayed introduction of certain bands.
I'm still very frustrated at the fact that others are actually receiving their Apple Watches, while I sit and wait, simply due to the fact that I didn't order the "right" band.
P.S. Let's not get into the "you didn't look at the projected delivery when you ordered" argument again. This is simply a failure of Apple setting expectations of ALL watches being available on April 24th, and only delivering 18 out of the 38 Watch+band+size combinations.
(Note: Updated note to include sizes at launch. There are 42mm and 38mm creating 38 separate combinations of Watch+band+size that Apple offered at pre-launch. Only a 47% launch availability rate after the first week that Apple has shipped. And that's not counting the zero (0) availability in the stores, which, to my knowledge, has never happened during an Apple product launch. I hope Tim Cook and his executive team is holding a lot of meetings to decide why they thought they'd be ready to launch on April 24th, who didn't follow through on the watch band production issues and why this whole Apple Watch launch date has been mismanaged from a Watch+band product availability perspective.)
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I'm just blaming this on 1st gen issues. I guarantee that the gen2 rollout will be much more robust with product and delivery expectations. I know this doesn't really help or matter at this point but I'm fully committed to waiting this out. If it's any consolation, all the Watch order dates have now been pushed out to July!
Sure, if we'd known... When I placed my order at 3:04am, the website said I'd get it launch day. It wasn't until the email confirmation came that it said May 13-27. Had there been any transparency with an indication that spending more money for the link bracelet would result in a longer wait, I'm sure many of us would have just ordered a cheaper watch.
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This sums things up perfectly.
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This sums things up perfectly.
That is false. It did say "Delivers in 4-6 weeks" at the start of preorder, before you placed the order. This is true of ALL link bracelet orders, at least the first batch.
I ordered mine at 3:01a Eastern and received a confirmation email also at 3:01a and it always showed 4-6 weeks. I'm not thrilled about it but I knew when I ordered that it was 4-6 weeks.
This thread is for those that have ordered SS Watch w/ link bracelet. That timeframe was originally set as May 13 - May 27 if you were lucky enough to place an order soon after the preorder system became available on April 10. Apple hasn't indicated otherwise so it seems they will ship between May 13 - May 27.
Mine says "delivered by" not "ship by". In other words could be shipped in the 8 so you get it delivered by the 13 and so forth.
Is a game of words.
In the meantime I have my trusty watch on my wrist and my iPhone in my pocket.
1) As others have said, Apple gave you a delivery estimate when you purchased the watch and it was your choice to purchase it. If they beat that estimate, they should be commended; if they meet the estimate, you should be perfectly satisfied; and if they miss it, you will have something to complain about. But given almost no one can yet claim Apple didnt meet the expectations they presented at the time of purchase I have exactly no sympathy for you and you have no legitimate grievance that it wont be shipping to you weeks before it was promised.
2) You have absolutely no idea how many watches were made, how many bands were made, how many were ordered, how many have shipped, and in what combinations. If you think the anecdotal and anonymous reports, from lets say (charitably) 100 people on this thread, gives you enough information to reasonably speculate on the status of the predicted over 2 million pre-orders, then Id highly recommend you sign up for a very basic statistics course ASAP. The people on this board are not a representative sample, and even if they were, they are of a sufficient size to draw any conclusions. So all this I cant believe Apple didnt X, Y, or Z is bogus. You dont know, so dont act like you do.
3) Just because your particular model wasnt in the April 24th shipping window when pre-orders went live doesnt mean that easily avoidable mistakes were made or that the launch day should have been pushed back. A lot of people have gotten their Apple Watches, and more are getting them every day that is great for them. The fact that you werent able to get yours when you wanted it doesnt mean that everyone else should have had to have waited until they had enough to fulfill your specific order. "If I don't get an Apple Watch, no one should" is a ****** attitude, and all to common on these forums.
4) Given this is a whole new product category, Apple had to make some very very tough guesses about how many of any particular model to make. There is almost no precedent or frame of reference that they can look to build their assumptions. Even if somehow they had managed to guess perfectly which of the dozens of combinations were going to be pre-ordered and in what quantities they still have to deal with the fact that sometimes there can be unexpected issues in the production of a product, in the supply chain that provides the materials for that product, in the quality assurance of that product, etc, etc. There are tons of variables that could have led to some combination of models not being produced in the quantities they desired. There is also the fact that some of combinations are simply more difficult to make then others (the link bracelets are brushed BY HAND). In other words, it is not shocking that some models are more difficult to get then others.
5) None of this is new, or unique to Apple. Every year certain models of iPhone are constrained for months after they launch due to some combination of the factors above (and they also come in far fewer combinations). The same has been true of virtually any successful product Apple has ever made.
6) Selling the watches and bands separately *may* have given them flexibility to adapt to unexpected fluctuations in demand, but the shipping times for each band on the online store certainly indicate that it would not have solved the problem. It would not have been without a cost, however, as it would fly in the face of how people have traditionally conceive of purchasing a watch (or really any fashion item I suppose). Apple may have been able to reduce the quoted ship times for a SMALL number customers in the first month or two of launch, but they would have done so at risk of hurting how the product was perceived (and purchased) in the long-term.
7) The only thing we know for sure is that Apple has not missed a single ship date it promised, and has beaten the ship dates for many. Hardly a disaster in my eyes. Why Apple would contact you when they don't believe they are in danger of missing their ship date is beyond me.
Unfortunately this does not mean what you think and hope it means. It's most likely an accounting limitation that cancelled orders roll off after a certain number of days, my wife works for a bank and she deals directly with electronic payments and this is her theory. I would be willing to bet a large sum of money we won't see movement for 2 more weeks at best.
Duly noted, but don't think the order cancelled from an apple perspective perspective. He just knows when it comes through the card is cancelled. he asked pp to swap the card and they stated they can but for any existing orders he must reorder or go to manufacturer. of course he doesn't want to get back in line so he called Apple. However if you mean when he called Apple they cancelled it that makes sense, or if pay pal cancelled because of stolen card I get that too. thanks of the banking insight
I appreciate the time you took to comment on my note. Happy to know someone reads my thoughts.
You miss the point. The main point is the expectations that Apple set for the April 24th launch. None of their press releases mentioned that there would be delays in certain styles, watch types, bands, etc. That's my main beef with this launch. Set expectations so the customers have a good experience.
If you look at other corporations, such as Toyota. When they launch a new vehicle, everything is ready to go. If you look at most company's product launches, if they miss their market window, they can lose millions of dollars. At over $751B Apple now has the largest market capitalization value in the world. I expect more from such a company. They can afford to do things other companies in the world simply cannot do due to the amount of cash, resources, leverage and ability they wield.
Here's a quote from WSJ: "Apple has faced considerable criticism for the way it has handled the Apple Watch launch thus far. The company, once well known for its supply chain savvy and ability to rollout products quickly, has only shipped a small fraction of pre-orders thus far, and it’ll likely be June before retail stores get any real inventory."
1. We differ in opinion. Not complaining about my shipping date, just about expectations set by Apple. Have your product ready to go when you say it will be.
2. Twelve years of math and a good grasp of statistics. Extrapolation from several sources (not just this board) is simple from representative sample size. All researchers do this.
3. You assume. NEVER said I expected to get a watch on April 24th (go back and read my note).
4. Apple doesn't need to make tough guesses. They have enough marketing clout to collect data for over a year on this launch. I dismiss any difficulty of manufacturing when there are plenty of extremely low cost labor markets to choose from.
5. I've gotten the last three (3) iPhones by waiting outside of an Apple store and simply walking in on launch day. Another miss by Apple.
6. I think pairing the watch with band is brilliant! But not when your supply chain can't meet the initial launch, as expected.
7. NO one knows if Apple has missed their ship date (except Apple). Comment is irrelevant.
I always enjoy good conversation. And I am looking forward to receiving my Apple watch. All in good time.
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I don't quite agree with this. My reasoning is that if they were not going to even attempt to charge his card for another 2 weeks then why would they cancel his order?
Until they try and charge the card he is in the same boat as everyone else, he is in a que and not going anywhere. However once they attempt to charge the card, if that fails and they cannot change his payment method then at that point and that point only would they cancel his order.
I believe that when Apple try and charge you, if it fails they give you until the end of the day or 24 hours to sort payment otherwise they cancel the order. So it makes sense that they would cancel his order on the 4th if that is the day they will be charging cards and they can't take an alternative payment method due to the way PayaPal works, etc.
Until they attempt payment and it fails they won't cancel the order, and Apple won't attempt to take payment until they have something to send you. So I don't believe that they will cancel his order on the 4th if they are not even going to take payment for another 2 weeks.
The hope is strong in this one!
(And I'm hoping you're right since the closer we're getting to the projected ship date the more unbearable the wait is getting.)
Shipping update. Three flights from Shenzhen to Anchorage today. However, six flights from Anchorage to Louisville today. If the board members let me know the other Apple/UPS distribution points I will add them, or they can search themselves.
Key data:
Anchorage: PANC
Louisville: KDSF
Shenzhen: ZDSG
If you use the http://flightaware.com/live/iphone link, click on the "All" button on the top and select "Route" you can drill down and see the UPS flights.
Happy Hopes.
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Just to put all of our angst into some modest perspective, there is a forum for Rolex owners getting the Apple Watch. They can't wait for their watches to arrive, but are conflicted about wearing them. And we think we have problems!
Another perspective: My watch has a shipping date. An update to replace my 15" MacBook Pro is only a rumor/hope at this time and that's really far more important (but less fun) than my watch.
Key data:
Anchorage: PANC
Louisville: KDSF
Shenzhen: ZDSG
If you use the http://flightaware.com/live/iphone link, click on the "All" button on the top and select "Route" you can drill down and see the UPS flights.
Happy Hopes.
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Just to put all of our angst into some modest perspective, there is a forum for Rolex owners getting the Apple Watch. They can't wait for their watches to arrive, but are conflicted about wearing them. And we think we have problems!
Another perspective: My watch has a shipping date. An update to replace my 15" MacBook Pro is only a rumor/hope at this time and that's really far more important (but less fun) than my watch.
Checking in... Still hoping for a move up in delivery date, but May 13-27 can't come soon enough!
I like your spirit and hope you're right. But I'm thinking that Apple's requirement that the card work on 5/4 is because, for pre-orders, they tend to hit the credit card to check for funds a week ahead of actually charging the card. Thus, Apple may check all cards on 5/4 and then wait to actually charge them at a later date.
Like I said, my thoughts are speculation and I'd rather you be right than me. Even though my delivery dates say 5/13-5/27, I somewhat have my heart set on 5/13 as the day. If it comes any earlier, I'll be freakin' thrilled!!! Any later and I'll be somewhat disappointed (even though there's no promise of that date). But that's only because of my immature need for immediate gratification.
I was going to say something along the lines of LONG LIVE THIS THREAD. But I think the end of this thread means we've all gotten our watches. So here goes: SHORT LIVE THIS THREAD!!!!