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Do you lose all of your app settings and workout activity data when you re-pair? Also, why does it take an hour?

TxWatch
No lost data as it's backed up on the iPhone.

It does take a while to pair and set up the Watch for some reason. Maybe not quite an hour, but certainly long enough that you don't want to do it often.
 
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Do you lose all of your app settings and workout activity data when you re-pair? Also, why does it take an hour?

TxWatch
It restores your :apple:Watch from the last backup which is made when un-paring. This takes a little time to restored and it is the same as right before the backup.
 
Those of us on a Series 0 are just not going to see the 2-3 day crazy battery lives that the Series 1 and 2 owners are. That was one of the big upgrades for the newer Watches. That doesn't mean we won't see much improved battery life though. My battery life is better than under 2.2 and I get this with the (somewhat) improved performance of OS 3. I'm happy enough. I just charge the Watch every night like I have been and I'm fine.

Why wouldn't series 0 and series 1 owners see the same battery life? Apple rates them as having the same amount. The only difference between series 0 and 1 is the dual core processor and watchOS 3.
 
Not seeing it here on my 42mm series 0. I have been wearing mine 24 hours at go for most of a year now, and only on this latest update have I started having trouble making it the full 24. I used to be at 20-30% typically before.
 
Why wouldn't series 0 and series 1 owners see the same battery life? Apple rates them as having the same amount. The only difference between series 0 and 1 is the dual core processor and watchOS 3.

Series 2 has a larger battery to compensate for when it uses the internal GPS, so when its not you're going to see better battery life on the S2.
 
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Series 2 has a larger battery to compensate for when it uses the internal GPS, so when its not you're going to see better battery life on the S2.

I didn't mention series 2 at all. People are reporting "amazing" battery life on series 1 watches, which are rated to have the same battery life as series 0 (thus, they don't have the "bigger" battery that the series 2 models have).
 
I didn't mention series 2 at all. People are reporting "amazing" battery life on series 1 watches, which are rated to have the same battery life as series 0 (thus, they don't have the "bigger" battery that the series 2 models have).

My apologies, I didn't read the original post you had replied to.

Only an assumption but perhaps the new dual-core chip in the S1 is more energy efficient then the single core in the S0.
 
To clarify, I meant do a factory reset of the watch (which means un-pairing) and then NOT restoring from a backup, instead set it up as a new watch. Yes you will have to reinstall 3rd party apps, and configure your settings / watch faces again - but historic activity data is not lost as it's stored on the phone. With this I went from the battery being on 1% by 9PM to it being at about 25-30% (depending on the workouts I've done).
 
Thanks for the clarification. I will try the full reset option if the un-pairing and restore technique does not work.

TxWatch
 
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My apologies, I didn't read the original post you had replied to.

Only an assumption but perhaps the new dual-core chip in the S1 is more energy efficient then the single core in the S0.

IF the dual-core in the S1 and S2's are like the iPhone 7, then 1 core could be a slower low power CPU and the other faster core is only used for cpu intensive tasks. I have never seen this proven, but it's definitely a possible explanation.
 
....Only an assumption but perhaps the new dual-core chip in the S1 is more energy efficient then the single core in the S0.
In addition to this many S0's have 500 or so cycles on the battery. This means it will be depleted about 10% to 20% capacity since new.

Also besides the more efficient dual core the S1P and S2 (SiP) chips use more effect chips and circuitry for other processes.
 
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Why wouldn't series 0 and series 1 owners see the same battery life? Apple rates them as having the same amount. The only difference between series 0 and 1 is the dual core processor and watchOS 3.
Series 1 essentially has the same processor as Series 2. They both seem to be a bit more efficient than the 1st gen watch.
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IF the dual-core in the S1 and S2's are like the iPhone 7, then 1 core could be a slower low power CPU and the other faster core is only used for cpu intensive tasks. I have never seen this proven, but it's definitely a possible explanation.
This could very well be what was optimized in 3.1.1 and why Apple waited until beta testers had run the beta on the new hardware before releasing the update.
 
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Series 1 essentially has the same processor as Series 2. They both seem to be a bit more efficient than the 1st gen watch.

Probably similar optimisations but I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying they are esensially the same. I believe Apple never clearly explained what the differences are (though a new GPU and a GPS unit are two of them), but they did name the processors differently and the naming suggests only series 2 is what they consider second generation: S1 (series 0), S1P (series 1), and S2 (series 2).
 
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Series 1 essentially has the same processor as Series 2. They both seem to be a bit more efficient than the 1st gen watch.

Okay, but a processor upgrade alone isn't going to bring much better battery life over its predecessor, will it?
 
Okay, but a processor upgrade alone isn't going to bring much better battery life over its predecessor, will it?

A processsor can be optimised make the device more energy efficient, hmce increase battery life with the same battery (I thing the suggestion made above that one of the cores if slower and optimised for energy consumption is an interesting one given the fact that battery life seems greatly increased while the watch is in standby).

But since Apple doesn't tell us much about what they have done it is just guessing.
 
Okay, but a processor upgrade alone isn't going to bring much better battery life over its predecessor, will it?

It does. A more efficient processor in a watch usually means doing more work in the same unit time at the same power, or the same or more work at lower power. Both will deliver more time out of the same battery capacity running the same applications on the same OS.

Doing the work faster means going to ultra low power states faster and staying there longer. Doing the same work at lower power will by definition use lower power.

A "processor upgrade" can be designed to do more work at more power, but that is not the usual design choice in a mobile or watch processor (unless the battery capacity can be increased, which usually means larger size).

In the case of the series 1, it does the same work as the series 0 with a more efficient processor and the battery lasts longer.

In the case of series 2, the "more work" is GPS and longer workouts, which does require more power, so they put in a bigger battery, which requires a (slightly) bigger case. If you don't use it outdoors for workouts much, it does the same work as the series 0 with a more efficient processor AND a bigger battery and lasts way longer.
 
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Battery life is a massive improvement for both of us, mine was normally 60% left after a day.

Mine S2 Post 3.1 upgrade
Day 1 77% left
Day 2 Morning 71% left (not wearing it whilst sleeping)
End of Day 2 50% left before I put it on charge.

I charged it after that but that was looking like 3 full days and nights by the looks of it.

Wifes S1
She is down to 60% at the end of the day previously she would have been 15-20% left.
 
Been watching for the last few days - S0 SS 38.
3 days of approx 35% by end of day.
2 days of it ran out by dinner time.
Same basic use each day. Charge nightly. Disappointed with the battery performance.
 
Being new to the AW, I'm not quite sure what I should do or if I'm missing something. Wore my Series 1 for the first full day yesterday beginning at 5:15am. By 8:30pm I was down to 15%. Recorded a 30min walk and that was it as far as work outs. I turned off background app refresh and uninstalled any apps I wouldn't need. Charged to 100% and put the watch back on for bed at 9:45pm. The dogs woke me at 2:00am and it was down to 62%. Any ideas?
 
Battery life is a massive improvement for both of us, mine was normally 60% left after a day.

Mine S2 Post 3.1 upgrade
Day 1 77% left
Day 2 Morning 71% left (not wearing it whilst sleeping)
End of Day 2 50% left before I put it on charge.

I charged it after that but that was looking like 3 full days and nights by the looks of it.

Wifes S1
She is down to 60% at the end of the day previously she would have been 15-20% left.

Is your wife's S1 a 38mm?
 
@bholt6

Are you on WOS3.1? If not, upgrade your phone and Watch to the latest.

Many others have reported better battery life on the S1 after upgrading to 3.1. For me on the S0, it has been about the same as 3.0.

TxWatch
 
@bholt6

Are you on WOS3.1? If not, upgrade your phone and Watch to the latest.

Many others have reported better battery life on the S1 after upgrading to 3.1. For me on the S0, it has been about the same as 3.0.

TxWatch

Ya, I've got everything updated. Might just start fresh and add apps 1 by 1 to see which, if any, caused the issue.
 
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