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aggiesrwe03

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No it is not (I have one). The premium subscription saves your readings for you in their cloud. Without any premium subscription or additional cost after buying the device, you can take readings as often as you like and save them as a pdf to a location of your choice (I save my pdfs to a folder in DropBox, but you can use OneDrive, iCloud, etc). Or you can send the pdfs as email attachments directly from the app. And you can even use it to take readings for other people (and save those as pdfs, etc). I have the Kardia Mobile one; the watch strap one would require you to let someone else wear your watch to take their readings.
For me the argument on whether I shouldn't or shouldn't buy is this; Alivecor's products are single task devices for $100, AW is a device that preforms multiple tasks very well, and is supported by arguably the best mobile ecosystem on the planet for $399 at the entry level. Tack on to that frequent software and functional updates in a wearable that's not intrusive, and frankly can be fashionable and I'm sold. Additionally, if you already had an AW with the device trade in option you're really only looking at about $150 for the upgrade. All that said; sure there is another option, and Alivcor is a good company (the inventor is actually a cardiologist) I still see the AW as the better of the two choices; especially when you consider that it's as simple as a software update from Apple to render the Kardia scrap...
 
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sulpfiction

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I am pissed that this will not work with my Series 3!! I could really use this app. Apple has a way to make me spend money. I might be stubborn and not buy a Series 4 until refurbs come along.

It does suck, but it was clear it wouldn't work on anything but series 4 since the day the feature was announced. It's not just software.
 

KennethS

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For me the argument on whether I shouldn't or shouldn't buy is this; Alivecor's products are single task devices for $100, AW is a device that preforms multiple tasks very well, and is supported by arguably the best mobile ecosystem on the planet for $399 at the entry level. Tack on to that frequent software and functional updates in a wearable that's not intrusive, and frankly can be fashionable and I'm sold. Additionally, if you already had an AW with the device trade in option you're really only looking at about $150 for the upgrade. All that said; sure there is another option, and Alivcor is a good company (the inventor is actually a cardiologist) I still see the AW as the better of the two choices; especially when you consider that it's as simple as a software update from Apple to render the Kardia scrap...

I'm nether arguing for nor defending a purchase decision of the AliveCor devices. The point of my posting was merely to correct a previous poster who seemed to be of the belief that to get a benefit from the AliveCor products requires a premium subscription.

BTW, I have an S4 and would never consider either device as a substitute for the other....
 

Abazigal

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We've put up with a lot of crap from Apple in recent years. With such rapid turnover of new models, when the 'tempting' new features are mentioned then they should be available upon release of the hardware, not halfway or later through it's short novelty period. With super-premium priced products there's no excuse for duping customers. The ECG feature is the worst let down yet - it will be severely delayed in most territories if released at all!

Yeah, I would like Apple to be able to circumvent the laws of each country and just do whatever they wish.

It’s not like you didn’t know this from day one, so why all the fuss now?
 

solarmon

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You are in fact going to die.

You do not know this, for certain. Medical science is on the brink of growing new organs for you from your own stem cells. While you may be right, we could be living in the best possible time, that is, if you want to live on...and on...and on. Look at Dick Cheney...two mechanical hearts so far.
 

newellj

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BTW, I have an S4 and would never consider either device as a substitute for the other....

Just a clarification, because I think your response is interesting - do you mean that you view the AliveCor/Kardia product(s) as different/non-overlapping with the S4 hardware? Just curious, not trying to pick a fight.
 

KennethS

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Just a clarification, because I think your response is interesting - do you mean that you view the AliveCor/Kardia product(s) as different/non-overlapping with the S4 hardware? Just curious, not trying to pick a fight.
Nothing very analytical was meant by my comment. As I live in the UK and it is unclear how long it may be before the ECG feature on the watch is enabled here (I see speculation ranging into multiple years, if ever), the AliveCor provides a function for me today that the watch cannot. The AliveCor device was suggested by my cardiologist after a diagnosis of A-Fib, so I wanted to have it now. If or when my S4 allows me to take readings I would need to compare readings from both devices to determine at that time if the AliveCor is no longer useful.
 

solarmon

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No they don't. This is very sensitive health data, and it's not Apple's job to facilitate building a doorway for a bunch of hackneyed Android devs to screw it up and cause problems. Then Apple will be blamed for Google's failure to properly secure their platform. That's to say NOTHING of insurers, who would love to "better serve you" by accessing that and deciding how quickly they want to lobby you off their roster.

Could not agree more. Keep your crappy, buggy, unsecured, antiquated, hacked Android ecosystem out of the Apple world. If I wanted to waste money on that crud, I’d buy it. It’s a disaster, and this will never happen. Duh.
 

Tavicu

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Jul 25, 2013
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The question is ... will the feature be available on the watches being sold in US or watches that have the region set to US in settings ...
 

logank013

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I am pissed that this will not work with my Series 3!! I could really use this app. Apple has a way to make me spend money. I might be stubborn and not buy a Series 4 until refurbs come along.

Um, your series 3 doesn't have the right hardware to do an ECG. Do you just expect a software update to create hardware? That's like expecting a car to become 4 wheel drive all of a sudden from a software update...
 

UsefulStuff

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Jan 21, 2020
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There is a new way to enable the ECG in any country and its very easy
here is the link and you can do it very easy

 
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