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WatchOS 5.1.2 developer Beta 2 came out November 15.

It's possible this could be released to developers in Beta 3 soon, but that's just a guess. Apple might be testing it internally first.
Yes but people in this thread have been showing the app in use and that’s why I downloaded the beta so I am trying to figure out why the app isn’t appearing.
 
No they don't. This is very sensitive health data, and it's not Apple's job to facilitate building a doorway for a bunch of hackneyed Android devs to screw it up and cause problems. Then Apple will be blamed for Google's failure to properly secure their platform. That's to say NOTHING of insurers, who would love to "better serve you" by accessing that and deciding how quickly they want to lobby you off their roster.
There’s no way Apple is going to open this up. They will lock it to their products so they can control security and privacy.

Hacked nude pictures is one thing—hacked personal information is very different
 
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There’s no way Apple is going to open this up. They will lock it to their products so they can control security and privacy.

Hacked nude pictures is one thing—hacked personal information is very different
Didn't Apple's servers get hacked before where some stars naked and families pictures got thrown around around internet? Or am I wrong
 
Why would you be pissed? It wasn't a function when you purchased it, and it wasn't promised by apple...

...and certainly needs different hardware than the S3 watches contain. S3 owners do have the option to go with AliveCor. I tried it and found it frustrating, but others have had different experiences.
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This is pretty sweet but I didn't find it worth the price tag of the S4.. so almost a quarter of the way through the products life cycle it finally gets its flagship feature? Better off waiting for S5 if you want to upgrade.

If you own and S3 and haven't upgraded yet, almost certainly true. I bought the S4 knowing there would probably be at least a three month gap. There were enough other updates that I bought the S4 anyway, and I'm still happy with that decision.
 
Your problem then is not Apple, it's the regulatory agencies in whatever country you live in. If Apple waits for every country's agencies to approve we wouldn't get the ECG until years from now. The US weakened it's regulation over medical devices, I wouldn't celebrate that just because it means Apple has a fast track.

As for Apple Pay and the TV stuff....again, that's contracts with companies and banks. It's not about Apple "not being ready", it's how international business works.
Localized Siri services (for Apple TV i.e.) are not available in several countries. And that's only Apple's "fault". No HomePod available and so on
 
Didn't Apple's servers get hacked before where some stars naked and families pictures got thrown around around internet? Or am I wrong

They were using the same email and password on every account and website, so hackers got their password from breaking onto another server. Also, it was pointed out that some of the photos were celebs taking selfies in the mirror with an android phone, so the hackers also got into their Google accounts, and Facebook, etc...

It was a collection of photos from wherever they could get them.

Social engineering basically. Stupid celebrities using their dog's name as the password on every site can't be protected against.

But iCloud Keychain will warn you if you are using the same password on different sites in iOS 12.
 
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This article is a bit misleading, it is not currently included in watchOS 5.1.2, at least not in beta 2. Is anyone else seeing it, or has anyone been pushed a 3rd beta?
 
Hooray for the pulse rate feature masquerading as a Electrocardiogram (with 12 views of the heart) via a finger probe alone. It must be diagnostic ... Tim said so!
It was never described as a diagnostic tool, it is more comparable to a single lead Holter monitor which can be used to guide providers toward a treatment plan. BTW a 4-lead ECG is not diagnostic either (lead II, no clue!) if you would like to get technical only a 12-lead ECG is diagnostic, and should be accompained by a cardiac workup with chest X-Ray and blood work; why are you concerned with whether it is diagnostic? I assume you are some sort of provider by your picture, would you not find it useful to walk into a pt’s house and they have a 6 second strip that caught their run of V-Tach? I sure as hell would.
 
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Nope. It was a phishing attempt, no hacking involved. Mainly some clever hi-tech social engineering.

Doesn't excuse the fact that Apple made it easy.

Between the two evils, leaking private nude pictures vs health info, the former is more career and social damaging that can lead to health issues.
 
Localized Siri services (for Apple TV i.e.) are not available in several countries. And that's only Apple's "fault". No HomePod available and so on
So you’re just looking to Gish Gallop everything instead of acknowledging the legal/contractual reasons some of the services you want aren’t available to you currently.

I understand that certain things Apple are VERY slow to roll out to certain countries, but the original complaint in this thread is not being held up by Apple.
 
Doesn't excuse the fact that Apple made it easy.

Between the two evils, leaking private nude pictures vs health info, the former is more career and social damaging that can lead to health issues.
It was reported that a lot of the celebs had android phones showing in the mirror of selfies they took.

This was not an Apple issue, not matter how hard you try to make it one.
 
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Doesn't excuse the fact that Apple made it easy.

Between the two evils, leaking private nude pictures vs health info, the former is more career and social damaging that can lead to health issues.
Apple didn’t leak anything, the parties responsible just focused on the low hanging fruit of security, tricking people with social engineering. That’s not Apple’s problem beyond the false reporting of “hacking” the service, which did not occur. Apple isn’t your nanny.
 
Doesn't excuse the fact that Apple made it easy.

Between the two evils, leaking private nude pictures vs health info, the former is more career and social damaging that can lead to health issues.

People sure are quick to blame Apple for “making it easy” how about the actual perpetrators? Here’s a tip; if you don’t want pictures of your tits leaked to the world, don’t take pictures of your tits... As far as protected health Information (PHI), HIPAA only requires that “reasonable efforts” are made to prevent data breeches ie: encryption, and password secured data both of which are present in iOS and watchOS platform. They are not obligated prevent malicious breeches (hacking).
 
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People sure are quick to blame apple for “making it easy” how about the actual perpetrators? Here’s a tip if you don’t want pictures of your tits leaked to the world, don’t take pictures of your tits... as far as health data, HIPAA only requires that “reasonable efforts” are made to prevent data breeches ie: encryption, and password secured data both of which are present in the iOS and watch is platform. it cannot account for malicious breeches
Plus, if a user turns off "Health" in iCloud sync, the data stays encrypted on the iPhone and isn't even uploaded to iCloud.
 
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