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I'm going to go out on a limb here and think outside the box.

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You have no life.

I guess I'll try to be more like you then. :rolleyes:

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So whatever they do with the name, there will probably be people that will pronounce it wrong, so whatever Apple wants to do with OS X right now, it's likely going to happen.

Very true. And at any rate, I'm very excited to see what Apple reveals on Monday. It's been a long time since so little has been leaked about what we're likely to see at an Apple event.
 
I'd like to believe that but of FCP X didn't get a huge banner, I'd be very surprised if Logic X did.

That's an interesting point, but didn't FCPX have it's own release announcement at NAB or something? I'm gonna have to google here...

Edit: yeah it was, so I'm not sure that is an equal comparison. I guess we'll find out soon though.
 
I couldn't agree more!! I'm willing to go as far as say that these folks that call it "OS-EX" are doing it on purpose. THEY HAVE TO KNOW it's pronounced OS-TEN. I mean, how could they not? The system has been out since 2000. After nearly 14 years if people truly don't know it's pronounced OS-TEN then they have either been living under a rock, don't know their roman numerals or they just shouldn't be using a Mac. :D

I don't think you are right. For OS X it can be a X or a ten. But OS 10, 10.9.0 would sound weird. Back on the day people did not say OS9, 9.2.2, people just said OS 9.2.2. The X means ten but it's more a brand now.

And if you believe MacRumors staff then brands don't have to relate to the product/service they are about at all. Even if in the past they did.
 
How about Saber-Toothed Tiger

- Long in the tooth
- Almost extinct :rolleyes:

I guess Lynx is out of the question ;)


I just want 10.9 to not render my existing software obsolete and shred all peripheral compatibility for months after release.

:lol: that would be good.
 
iOS sells more devices / contributes more to their bottom line. More iOS developers than OS X developers, etc.

I know what you're saying, but they aren't foolish enough to bite the hands that feed them (30% for every app sale, amongst other things.)

I'm not sure you do - I'm saying that it doesn't matter that the number of comments is higher on the OSX thread than the iOS thread - Apple's priority is iOS.

Apple is now a consumer electronics company, and those of us who have always used Macs (me, from the Fat Mac) have to cope with the fact that the WWDC for Mac Developers has been hijacked by iOS and the millions of developers making toy apps to sell to the masses.

I really think they should split WWDC so that Mac developers have a hope of getting to the conference rather than it being swamped with iOS developers that don't care a less about OSX.
 
Actually, it does matter. One is the name of the product, the other is not. But more to the point, Roman numerals are NUMERALS (that means numbers) not letters. Maybe YOU don't know how to read Roman numerals when you see them, but I don't have that problem, especially with a number as simple as ten.

When I see Roman numerals, I think and say the numbers represented, not letters, because I know what they are and how to pronounce them. Star Trek II is pronounced "Star Trek Two" not "Star Trek Eye Eye". Super Bowl XXX is "Super Bowl Thirty" not "Super Bowl Triple Ex". Letters and numbers are not always interchangeable as you suggest.

And it's not just like hexadecimal. Hexadecimal, and decimal for that matter, are both shorthand for binary, a computer language. Whether you say 0x4ab9aab or 78355115, both actually represent 100101010111001101010101011. But that is a completely different usage than what we're talking about.

Firstly, this is about what I consider to be bad branding. And secondly, Roman numerals are numbers, not letters. Having such a conversation about Roman numerals in 2013 (that's MMXIII) is ridiculous to me, not because they're rarely used, but because they're so often used and people should know what they are and how to pronounce them correctly.

Alright, I'm done poking back at you, CyBeRino. You're right. I'll calm down now. :)

Regarding Mac OS X, and I'm saying "Mac OS Ten" here, CyBeRino, I think HenryDJP has a point. While X, pronounced "ex", is often used in product names these days, with Mac OS it's been established since 2000 (that's MM) that the name of the operating system is pronounced "Mac OS Ten" and anyone pronouncing it "Mac OS Ex" is doing so either because the don't know any better, don't care, or are making a point to mispronounce it deliberately. Regardless, it's the wrong pronunciation and is very annoying to some of us.

And this just goes to my point that Apple should drop the X in the name altogether. When so many people arbitrarily or deliberately mispronounce the name of your product, you should seriously consider changing the name.
I pronounce roman numerals with the English pronunciation of the character. Which would make OS X and OS Ten identical. I guess they would have their own Latin pronunciation, but it was never taught to me. It may be that their names are the decimal named equivalent, but I just don't know.

As far as I'm concerned they are synonymous which makes it really hard to see why your panties are in a knot.
 
Well it beats the over-the-top predictions and leaked photos and constant fake threats of people saying (while stomping their feet), "If Apple disappointments me "THIS TIME", I'm switching over to Windows". Yeah, it's usually the same ole people ranting year after year and then a week after the keynote (when they think the forum has forgotten their username connected to all that fake ranting) they come here and post their bragging rights of getting the latest and greatest from Apple. ;)

Totally agree. If you don't like it, use those other services that are available to you including:

Windows
Spotify
Android
EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD
 
The X means ten but it's more a brand now. And if you believe MacRumors staff then brands don't have to relate to the product/service they are about at all. Even if in the past they did.

Right! Which is why I think they should just lose the X and version numbers altogether when it comes to branding. Just call it Mac OS Sea Lion or just Mac OS. Of course it'll have a version number, but just like most applications these days, the version number won't be part of its name or branding.

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I pronounce roman numerals with the English pronunciation of the character. Which would make OS X and OS Ten identical. I guess they would have their own Latin pronunciation, but it was never taught to me. It may be that their names are the decimal named equivalent, but I just don't know.

As far as I'm concerned they are synonymous which makes it really hard to see why your panties are in a knot.

Not sure what you mean by "English pronunciation of the character," but it's not important. Panties aren't in a knot. Just making a point. It's fine that others disagree, even with the predictable insults. :)
 
Actually, it does matter. One is the name of the product, the other is not. But more to the point, Roman numerals are NUMERALS (that means numbers) not letters. Maybe YOU don't know how to read Roman numerals when you see them, but I don't have that problem, especially with a number as simple as ten.

I am perfectly able to read roman numerals, but when I see 'MCMXVIII', unlike when I see '2013', my brain does not immediately go to 'two thousand thirteen'. It has to work out what number that is first, after first figuring out 'oh wait that's a roman numeral'. Now, a number like 10 may be damn simple but it also shares a symbol with our language and that gets priority over numbers. So 'Ex' is thought of before 'ten'.

And it's not just like hexadecimal. Hexadecimal, and decimal for that matter, are both shorthand for binary, a computer language. Whether you say 0x4ab9aab or 78355115, both actually represent 100101010111001101010101011. But that is a completely different usage than what we're talking about.

Now that is just wrong entirely. Decimal is "shorthand" for binary? So you would say that binary is the one true way of counting and what we humans have been doing for so many centuries is just "shorthand"? No. Binary, decimal and hexadecimal are just different ways of expressing the same number, with different radix. Hexadecimal happens to be a convenient alternative way to express numbers in binary because each hexadecimal digit maps to a unique 4-digit binary value. A trait shared with base 8 (octal, 3-digit) and, technically, base 4 (quaternary, 2-digit).

Anyway point is, numbers in different numeral systems are all just representations of the same thing, with different ways of expression. And just as saying "Two A" is just as right as saying "forty-two" when confronted with the hexadecimal representation of said number, so is saying 'Ex El Eye Eye' perfectly fine when confronted with the roman version of the same. Or 'four two' when encountering the decimal number, a tactic used on many a phone or radio connection.
 
I pronounce roman numerals with the English pronunciation of the character. Which would make OS X and OS Ten identical. I guess they would have their own Latin pronunciation, but it was never taught to me. It may be that their names are the decimal named equivalent, but I just don't know.

As far as I'm concerned they are synonymous which makes it really hard to see why your panties are in a knot.

Ten in Latin is decem (pronounced deh-kehm). And although technically it is pronounced ten, there was no need to give birth to a baby calf all over the Internet. People be crazy:rolleyes:
 
iOS sells more devices / contributes more to their bottom line. More iOS developers than OS X developers, etc.

I know what you're saying, but they aren't foolish enough to bite the hands that feed them (30% for every app sale, amongst other things.)

iOS devices are smaller and less expensive, thus they sell more. However, at the end of the day, even iOS developers use XCode on good-old Macs to write their apps, so OS X is still of utmost importance. May not be so forever, but at least for the foreseeable future...
 
to me, the wave on OSX poster indicates a new wave of mac products! :apple:


New Mac Pro
Thunderbolt display
New Time Capsule
 
I don't think you are right. For OS X it can be a X or a ten. But OS 10, 10.9.0 would sound weird. Back on the day people did not say OS9, 9.2.2, people just said OS 9.2.2. The X means ten but it's more a brand now.

And if you believe MacRumors staff then brands don't have to relate to the product/service they are about at all. Even if in the past they did.

Uh, it doesn't sound like your post was meant for me. Everything you said had nothing to do with what I said. :D
 
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