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WT did, in the thread beseeching its partisans to come and do battle here that was posted on the WT forums.
I see. That post is 3 hours after MR threw in the towel. They had let them hang out to dry the whole weekend prior to that.
I wonder If they would even have reacted had DBK not crossposted a pull quote from MR in the FT about 30mins after they made the stopping coverage post?
It is quite possible they were not monitoring MacRumors forums, and only realized what was happening when DBK crossposted, and/or when MacRumors informed them they were suspending coverage -- which I don't know if MR did that, but it seems common curtesy to do so.
I still see a major issue that keeps happening so I guess I'll just focus on that. About how you keep posting like you never saw things I've been saying. I don't get it at all unless you are so focused on your frustrations that these things simply don't register for long. Remember, over and over I've pointed out that I have said I understand the frustration and that I agree with some of the criticisms. There are many posts that show that is a fact. Yet:
ON BEING ONE-SIDED:
So two related comments on this. Yes, THIS time I did it privately - as I've done with some critics. So? Regardless, I'm on record as disagreeing with this so there is nothing to complain about to me.
Further, where does this "JUST made one-sided" stuff come from when I have repeatedly pointed out that I've agreed with many of the criticisms? Over and over. So why that comment? I'm not responsible if people refuse to read or comprehend simple facts about my posts. Maybe I should "understand" that their frustration leads them to keep getting it wrong? Nope, not my responsibility. It is theirs.
I rebut UNFAIR criticism but you seem to find a need to describe it as being their greatest proponent - thus downplaying or ignoring the actual criticisms I've made and why. And then there is the reality that if some facts help them, so what? I'm not suppose to give facts if it helps WT somehow?
Because I'm not. You know, if the truth happens to help someone, that is a coincidence. The purpose is to stick to the truth.
I saw this attitude in previous comment sections on an earlier story. Juli was accused of doing a PR piece. I remember one of the "proofs" - that she made some kind of comment about the TextBlade being completely different than other keyboards. Just one little problem with that "proof" - it was actually a true and completely accurate statement! A lot of the criticisms I've seen are of the same type. It sure looks like the definition of "helping WT" or doing "PR for Waytools" includes giving accurate descriptions that some will look at as a good thing. It's also a nonsensical reaction.
Note how the first one begins:
"Let me correct some misinformation posted in some comments"
And then, gasp, I did just that - and also referred to problems with WT about 4 times. As I have said, just because actual facts may put WT in a better light in some areas does NOT justify claiming it is PR! You would prefer that I let false statements stand unchallenged???
And the second one begins:
"I can answer some of your questions."
And then I did. Note that in neither of these posts was I being negative to anyone. I just laid out the facts and some logic. Anyone could, if they wanted to be rational, disagree and give their reasons. About the only effort to do so was about the "remote kill switch" - which I accurately said was not one. I grant that the potential effect may be the same, but then also have pointed out that the whole idea that they would use a kill switch for any reason after testing literally makes no sense so nothing to make a big deal about.
So, no PR. Just facts. Facts are allowed to help WT or anyone else depending on the actual facts.
Some consistency would be appreciated. I mean, I see all this stuff about me helping WT - simply by answering questions and correcting erroneous claims with facts. As if any such post must include a lot of criticism too - but even when it does, it doesn't seem to count! Yet where are all the posts to the various critics who are doing reverse PR? Nope, it seems only to be directed at someone who isn't critical of them about everything. You might want to think about that.
On being "Understanding" and "Balanced":
Another part of the problem - I keep pointing out that I have repeatedly said I understand the frustration and SOME of the criticisms. Yet here you are once again asking me to understand! Sure sounds like the definition of "understanding" is to accept all of it. Which isn't going to happen.
Again, I've always done that. Why keep telling me to do so? It just sounds like it doesn't matter if I do what you want unless I also happen to agree, or at least accept as unchallengeable, everything from the critics.
And there it is again, ignoring that I have criticized them.
As long as what I actually write is treated as if I never said it, day after day, it is pretty unlikely any progress can be made.
ON BEING ONE-SIDED:
So two related comments on this. Yes, THIS time I did it privately - as I've done with some critics. So? Regardless, I'm on record as disagreeing with this so there is nothing to complain about to me.
Further, where does this "JUST made one-sided" stuff come from when I have repeatedly pointed out that I've agreed with many of the criticisms? Over and over. So why that comment? I'm not responsible if people refuse to read or comprehend simple facts about my posts. Maybe I should "understand" that their frustration leads them to keep getting it wrong? Nope, not my responsibility. It is theirs.
I rebut UNFAIR criticism but you seem to find a need to describe it as being their greatest proponent - thus downplaying or ignoring the actual criticisms I've made and why. And then there is the reality that if some facts help them, so what? I'm not suppose to give facts if it helps WT somehow?
Because I'm not. You know, if the truth happens to help someone, that is a coincidence. The purpose is to stick to the truth.
I saw this attitude in previous comment sections on an earlier story. Juli was accused of doing a PR piece. I remember one of the "proofs" - that she made some kind of comment about the TextBlade being completely different than other keyboards. Just one little problem with that "proof" - it was actually a true and completely accurate statement! A lot of the criticisms I've seen are of the same type. It sure looks like the definition of "helping WT" or doing "PR for Waytools" includes giving accurate descriptions that some will look at as a good thing. It's also a nonsensical reaction.
Note how the first one begins:
"Let me correct some misinformation posted in some comments"
And then, gasp, I did just that - and also referred to problems with WT about 4 times. As I have said, just because actual facts may put WT in a better light in some areas does NOT justify claiming it is PR! You would prefer that I let false statements stand unchallenged???
And the second one begins:
"I can answer some of your questions."
And then I did. Note that in neither of these posts was I being negative to anyone. I just laid out the facts and some logic. Anyone could, if they wanted to be rational, disagree and give their reasons. About the only effort to do so was about the "remote kill switch" - which I accurately said was not one. I grant that the potential effect may be the same, but then also have pointed out that the whole idea that they would use a kill switch for any reason after testing literally makes no sense so nothing to make a big deal about.
So, no PR. Just facts. Facts are allowed to help WT or anyone else depending on the actual facts.
Some consistency would be appreciated. I mean, I see all this stuff about me helping WT - simply by answering questions and correcting erroneous claims with facts. As if any such post must include a lot of criticism too - but even when it does, it doesn't seem to count! Yet where are all the posts to the various critics who are doing reverse PR? Nope, it seems only to be directed at someone who isn't critical of them about everything. You might want to think about that.
On being "Understanding" and "Balanced":
Another part of the problem - I keep pointing out that I have repeatedly said I understand the frustration and SOME of the criticisms. Yet here you are once again asking me to understand! Sure sounds like the definition of "understanding" is to accept all of it. Which isn't going to happen.
Again, I've always done that. Why keep telling me to do so? It just sounds like it doesn't matter if I do what you want unless I also happen to agree, or at least accept as unchallengeable, everything from the critics.
And there it is again, ignoring that I have criticized them.
As long as what I actually write is treated as if I never said it, day after day, it is pretty unlikely any progress can be made.
I was not complaining. I was pointing out that we cannot see the things you do not do in public. I was pointing out that does not help How you look to others.
So your argument is you are going to continue to post scads of arguments until everyone agrees with you?
They aren't going to.
What you consider to be unfair criticism. it's subjective, meaning the concept of what is fair differs from person to person.
Only in your reading of it. Are you or are you not their greatest proponent. The condition is not binary with you having critisicms, what ever made you think it would be?
If your first loyalty is to the facts then look into the things I asked you to. You said you are not fazed about being critical about WT, then follow the facts. It is a Fact for example that two people banned on 20160222 as duplicate accounts are different people.
There you lack Understanding. I asked you to understand. To empathise with Their point of view not hold it. If this was an attempt to employ a straw man fallacy against me then please refrain in future. This is what WT do.
I was trying to explain to you that disagreeing with people is fine, mauling them over 900 posts is just overbearing. That is why you are getting filtered by people, not because of what you say but the volume of it. It does not bother me, I like a long post, but I know many do not.
This is not what I said. If this was an attempt to employ a straw man fallacy against me then please refrain in future. This is what WT do.
I do not expect you to agree. I asked you to look at particular issues surrounding WT conduct and consider why they may be angry. You said that you had asked them in private about one such issue.
Is it okay for example not let banned people have a right of reply? I am not so bothered about going over my own case as that moment has passed. Is is okay to post falsehoods, and allow users to be publicly attacked in the forum?
Is it okay for them to have not apologised to MR?
That wasn't really about you, it was a comment on the way WT are using you. It doesn't matter that you volunteer to be used it is still is happening.
I read what you wrote. I commented on it point by point, did I not give you enough attention?
Is your attention diverted by arguing with Bob on WT?
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You do realize those comments were made by different people, right? Just checking
The "just" was in reference to your having made comments to WayTools in private, this time. You were coming across as if we were supposed to give any weight to these private messages between you and WayTools. Well, we haven't seen those messages. So we don't know that they exist. Yet, when I said you should criticize WT too, you came back with "but I did -- I just sent them private messages." That was what I was objecting to.
In fact, let me amend my statement and say you should criticize WT *publicly*. And give their statements the same line-by-line rebuttal treatment you give other posters' "unfounded attacks." Otherwise, you are being one-sided, because you spend line after line of posts berating people for attacking WT, but only a few lines here and there about sympathizing with people's frustrations or criticizing WT. If your post is 90% lambasting people for attacking WT, and 10% criticizing WT and emphasizing with people's frustrations (not that I counted, these percentages are just estimates), then yes, your emphasizing and criticisms will tend to get overlooked. That's how people's brains work.
Facts aren't neutral. Good PR is presenting favorable facts in a favorable light, while ignoring or minimizing unfavorable facts. I submit that's what you did for WT in those posts I pointed out, and what Juli did in her articles. I accepted Juli's explanation that she was ignorant of some of the most unfavorable facts, such as WT's cancellation of people's orders. (And the subsequent offers of reinstating the orders, since you'll gripe again if I leave it out.)
Also, some of the "facts" you list are debatable. For example, the kill switch. You insist there is no kill switch, but it sounds like one to me. I don't want to get in a debate with you over this, but just want to point out that the same set of facts -- that WT has built a function into their test units that do XY and Z -- can lead to different people coming to different conclusions, like you concluding that's not a kill switch, and me and others concluding it is.
Again and again, you post facts favorable to WT, and interpret them in a way favorable to WT. Surely, you don't think of yourself as a neutral party in this debate, do you? Or do you?
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Sorry for this quote, I typed a whole message and clicked out of it by mistake and lost it. Will write in next post.
[doublepost=1456372115][/doublepost]Fact is that there IS a kill switch and WT has admitted to this in a post on the WT forum. As they can put a permanent token in, they can easily put in a kill token. As Apple is not wanting to write a backdoor iOS because creating such would be dangerous, the same is true with this. Why would they need to program this functionality in to the TB for TREG that is estimated to last as little as a week? Why even waste programmer time on this? Seems shady and odd.
Also DBK, perception is reality. You are perceived to be a mouthpiece for WT. I believe this as well as many others. Why would someone stick up for a company that has missed ALL of their important milestones more than 8 times already? And c'mon you stating that they were early to select TREG users and call them? Really, that's an estimate that they were early on? Get real, that's some BS. It means NOTHING. Shipping is everything.
If you don't work for them in some capacity, you, just like Juli are being duped. Only difference is it seems you are doing it to yourself which would make it worse.
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Since it is clear from these exchanges that it never matters that I criticize WT or say the frustration is understandable, I'm pretty sure I have little reason to care what such people think I look like. They clearly don't pay attention - or worse.
Which is why my posts tend to be long, so I can provide the actual arguments. Sure beats saying, "You have to understand us" all the time, or making comments about defending WT as if I don't criticize them. Meanwhile not being concerned at all about false statements they make.
Well, I pretty much match the number of posts I disagree with. So if there are 900 of those, you should expect 900 back.
Meanwhile, for all you talk telling me what I should do, I don't recall a similar pattern to any of the critics. Or is being the majority group justify all?
So I think I'll just stick with posting my way. Others, including the critics, can post their's. And I get to comment on them.
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I think that each was labeled as to who said each, so yeah, I know. But they both had the same issues so I listed them together. No problem.
The point remains - that the attitude is that I only support WT. That is and always has been false. And by talking about the private message, I've clearly taken a public stand on it anyway. Never seems to matter, does it?
Nonsense. I give detailed rebuttals for those things people disagree with me about. IOW, I set out to back up my different view. I'm pretty sure there is no need to do so if, for example, I say that WT has been terrible about communication. No one is going to disagree with me, are they? No long rebuttals needed.
Sometimes I message WT privately. Sometimes other critics. So what? There are a whole bunch of public criticisms I've made, yet once again, they don't seem to count.
Actually, we need a debate about this. Because, 1) I didn't say there was no kill switch. I said there was no remote kill switch. I explained how it worked and why. I also said that to some the difference may be unimportant (see, I'm "understanding" their view), but then I also pointed out that there was nothing about it that should bother anyone - and explained why for that too.
No one has countered those explanations. And then there are all the other errors I corrected which were just skipped over to focus on this one where you see some detail, unimportant though it is, to use as a wedge to claim it was WT PR.
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And here we go again. I point out there is no "REMOTE kill switch" and then explain what it really is, how it works, and why it makes sense to have it. So, of course critics come back with a claim that there is a kill switch as if I denied it.
Yes, they can put a permanent token in. What no one can explain is why they would ever do it. Makes zero sense. And the comparison to a backdoor is a joke. I can see it now. FBI goes to WT and says, "We have a potential terrorist threat. We need you to put a kill token in their TextBlades so we can stop them from typing"!!!
It doesn't matter how long TREG may last. First, a week is simply the minimum. May be longer. Second, even if just a week, if some tester violates the agreement, their unit should be shut down. It's nonsensical to make an issue about that, especially after it has been explained repeatedly. I could understand frustration leading to people getting mad about it (emotions overruling thinking), but not after it has been explained!
Besides the obvious fact that they would have no reason to kill regular user units, there would be a huge legal backlash if they did.
Really? Okay, let's go with that. Which would mean that during much of American and European history, blacks were inferior. That was the perception, wasn't it? I didn't like that one.
Maybe you should rethink your argument.
Because being "guilty" of one thing does not justify saying they are guilty of things they are not? Was that a trick question? Or just a really bad one?
You may want to be a bit more complete. You don't want people to get the perception that you are leaving things out. A general refresher:
1. I kept a running track of estimates they met (presently stands at four - no the one you mentioned).
2. I ALSO made comments about how they were minor things, but certainly better than the pattern of almost always being late - not just for the product but for when they would say an update would be coming, etc.
3. And that the next big one would be about shipping TREG units.
So, I didn't overstate anything. All you had to do was actually pay attention to what my posts said - in context.
Ah, the insinuation crap again.
Take your same advice about taking it in context to what I said about perception being reality. No need to get racial. This is about how YOU are perceived as a mouthpiece for WayTools, not a race of people many years ago.
Also, any estimate at this point is pretty worthless. TextBlade is over a year late and WT treats their paying customers like garbage. Then add TREG? That should have been done BEFORE they stated they were in "mass production".
Currently there is a remote kills switch. It is activated by not logging into the App where it will get another temp token for TREG users.
Sorry, but you don't get to say something applies logically one way, but not other ways. Perceptions are wrong a rather large number of times. Whether about people or other things. Hey, there was perception that the Earth is flat. But those were rather limited perceptions because there were other perceptions available to cast serious doubt on that.
YOU made a ridiculous argument.
And, once again, you fail to deal with what matters about the kill switch - regardless of how it works (which is the least important part). Go ahead, give us a scenario that makes this ability, even IF WT decided to do it with regular shipping units, that it would be like the FBI wanting a backdoor into your data. And tell us exactly how WT would benefit from deciding to do such a thing. I say you can't do it. But I bet that won't stop you from continuing to keep bringing up this meaningless possibility.
See, I was under the impression that a kill switch was always remote. If it wasn't remote, it'd simply be a way to turn something off / disable something. That is, I'd probably call such a thing an off switch my rather than a kill switch. But even if there is such a thing as a non-remote kill switch, in the case of TextBlade testing units, the only way WT could activate a kill switch in testers' units is to do so remotely. So of course, we are talking about remote kill switch, even if people leave out the "remote."
It is done locally, by having a token which is temporary. If testers don't check in with the app periodically, the temporary token doesn't get updated.
Now, as I said, to some this is an unimportant difference, but it is a difference and I pointed it out. But here's the thing, it is also the LEAST most important thing about this particular issue. Quick review:
It is totally legitimate and makes sense for WT to have a way to turn off a tester's unit if they violate the agreement. But only for testers while in the testing phase.
Once we are done that, then, of course, there would be no legitimate reason to do that - thus the permanent token instead.
And now, the really big one, no one can show any logical reason WT would even want to shut them down. Especially since to do so would certainly lead to law suits. Why do something that can't benefit you but will subject you to that?
Conclusion: This whole issue is really a non-issue. Yet it is consistently the one people keep focusing on without ever rebutting the things I just pointed out.
Well, they SAY the permanent token is permanent, but how do we know that there isn't a way to revoke this supposedly permanent token on their end? And knowing the history of their behavior in cancelling people's orders, and their paranoid accusations of competitors spewing FUD about them (and talk about unfounded accusations, why aren't you taking apart those accusations line by line?), I don't trust them not to suddenly revoke this token for no apparent reason. I think other people feel the same way, which is why they keep focusing on it.
I covered this. Even if the token can be bypassed, the question no one can answer is "why" they would do it.
So they cancel people's orders - there is no comparison there. Someone may cancel an order (and refund their money) and people will be mad. But try selling something to someone, delivering it, and then going in and rendering it useless and watch the difference.
When someone gives me a realistic example of why they would actually do this, I'll worry about it. But I don't think they can. They certainly haven't so far. Heck, TF tried to compare it to the FBI backdoor issue!
Just paranoid.
Well, they decided to cancel people's orders for complaining about the production delays. So what if once TextBlade ships, and someone has problems with it, and they post on WT saying this isn't working for them and they aren't using it anymore, so WT says, ok, since you aren't using it, we'll disable it. Yes, there's a difference between cancelling orders and disabling a shipped product -- but based on how WT has behaved in the past, I don't feel confident they'll see the difference. Maybe it is a bit paranoic, but then, as I said earlier, WT has done things that make me feel they are untrustworthy. Once you lose people's trust, it's hard to get it back.
Definitely overreacting. Because, again, they'd get sued like crazy. And lose. After all, they said it was permanent. They can't just change it and get away with it.
I'd be a lot more worried about what Google or Facebook, etc, might do with my information than this!
But this is what I've often pointed out - we have a legitimate complaint and then that gets exaggerated into "possibilities" that just aren't going to happen. Sometimes even exaggerated to claim something is true that didn't even happen. And this is why I post the way I do.
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You are making the logical error that people who don't agree with you are not paying attention. I am paying attention and I don't agree with you.
You keep repeating that you are critical and I notice you have not responded to my questions in my last post.
I was expecting a sequence of viewpoints with arguments. Silence seems contrary to your usual posting style. What was different about my questions that you did not feel that you had to respond?
Your public post about the bannings was not long. It was 0 characters long, with no arguments presented.
I do not say you have to understand us all the time, are you trying to imply by that falsehood that I do?
Somewhat reductive, Are you saying that you will repeat yourself ad nauseum if the same differing opinion is posted?
Asking not telling. Name me any other user I can ask these questions of? Where is the sea of posters with hundreds of posts defending WT to ask?
I was discussing ways to make your posting more effective, to get you point across with less effort, and to not create so much friction when expressing you viewpoint.
Volume is not the same as content, bias can be subtle, and bias can be communicated where no such bias exists through poor word choice and aggressive habits.
I appreciate that you wrote a post to answer me separately and the forum software aggregated it, so I will not respond to the content directed at the other user.
I also appreciate that its late in Oahu so I will have some time to look forward to your response.
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Since you mentioned that there was more than one thing I covered that wasn't a fact, let's look at more of them:
First, the TREG test group is not Waytools friends and employees.
As I've said, I'm one of them and I am the foremost expect in the world on all my relationships or lack thereof. And I'm not a friend or employee of WT. None of the other people chosen who are on forums have said they were either. Can I prove it? Of course not because I'm not about to bring some loon accuser over to visit. But all they can do is claim we are all lying - which is yet another reason I post objections like I do.
They do provide straight answers to many things.
Absolute fact, contradicting a claim that they never do. You can look at the status page today and see details (probably too much detail) about the last known hardware issue. There have been lots of other examples. So this is a fact and the claim is provably wrong. But I ALSO said WT needs to do this more often - see, understanding the complaints!
TREG isn't all that secretive either.
I explained why and how much we are allowed to say publicly about it (very lenient). I pointed out some things that weren't revealed, but also that that is typical for most companies (no one is going to allow you to tell others about unreleased products, for example). Sure, someone could declare that anything, no matter how small, means they are "secretive". But it would also be a meaningless, childish attack.
There are not two different builds (one for testing and one not).
One of the complaints was that the "kill switch" in test units would mean the builds would be different. They are not. The tokens simply change. Code is the same.
All this is accurate and corrects misinformation that had already been posted. But, once again, I said there were legitimate complaints:
There are plenty of things to complain about, but some of the complaints are either not true or are exaggerated. Accuracy is best so people can decide what matters to them if considering a purchase.
First, the TREG test group is not Waytools friends and employees.
As I've said, I'm one of them and I am the foremost expect in the world on all my relationships or lack thereof. And I'm not a friend or employee of WT. None of the other people chosen who are on forums have said they were either. Can I prove it? Of course not because I'm not about to bring some loon accuser over to visit. But all they can do is claim we are all lying - which is yet another reason I post objections like I do.
They do provide straight answers to many things.
Absolute fact, contradicting a claim that they never do. You can look at the status page today and see details (probably too much detail) about the last known hardware issue. There have been lots of other examples. So this is a fact and the claim is provably wrong. But I ALSO said WT needs to do this more often - see, understanding the complaints!
TREG isn't all that secretive either.
I explained why and how much we are allowed to say publicly about it (very lenient). I pointed out some things that weren't revealed, but also that that is typical for most companies (no one is going to allow you to tell others about unreleased products, for example). Sure, someone could declare that anything, no matter how small, means they are "secretive". But it would also be a meaningless, childish attack.
There are not two different builds (one for testing and one not).
One of the complaints was that the "kill switch" in test units would mean the builds would be different. They are not. The tokens simply change. Code is the same.
All this is accurate and corrects misinformation that had already been posted. But, once again, I said there were legitimate complaints:
There are plenty of things to complain about, but some of the complaints are either not true or are exaggerated. Accuracy is best so people can decide what matters to them if considering a purchase.
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That isn't what I referred to. You aren't listening. I specifically referred to the critics, not those defending WT. Over and over, I'm told (suggested, whatever) what I'm supposed to do yet people who attack the integrity of good people like Juli or people who have made claims about WT that are factually wrong don't seem to draw much attention from you. I think it is better to provide accurate information even if people don't like me than to provide disinformation and have people like me.
What I do see is, in spite of my criticisms of WT, a pattern of "why didn't you complain about X or Y". Like I said, nothing is good ever good enough. So, I'll just do my posts my way without worrying if it is pleasing to people who are never satisfied and don't listen anyway.
You can agree to disagree.
It was not clear from your response, I am listening.
The poor posting discipline of others is of little interest to me. I am not interested in examining this through the lens of how ever many other users shouting whatever at whomever.
For what it's worth when I mentioned your actions specifically you treated it like an attack, which makes me disinclined to waste effort pointing out your positives.
I asked you some direct questions. You have declined to answer.
What am I to make of that?
I do not need your permission.
I made some notes regarding your analysis to Night Spring if you care to hear them?
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I do agree about Google and Facebook. But as to WT, even if they do get sued and lose, that's no guarantee that we'll recover our money, and we certainly won't recover the time and energy we'd waste on suing them. Therefore, even if the chances of their pulling the kill switch is minuscule, it's better for my peace of mind not to buy a product from a dodgy company in the first place. I think I just convinced myself not to buy a TextBlade even if it is released and being sold at a bestbuy.
I think one problem with your posts is that you go after exaggerations with the same vigor as you go after non-facts. It really muddles matters. Like I noticed on WT forum, you jumped on someone for suggesting that it'll take WT another 8 months to ship the TextBlade. That's just rhetorical exaggeration, it doesn't mean that the poster thought that there was any factual basis to the number 8. "8" is just a stand in for any number over a few months. Yet you treat that as ungrounded assertion, leading to wasted bandwidth as you and other posters argue back and forth about that number.
Btw, you never answered whether you think of yourself as favoring WayTools. I mean, it's fine if you do, but I think we should admit our bias upfront. In this discussion, I've always been biased in favor of the dissatisfied customers, and I know and admit it.
A reliable source got access to this script from a soon-to-be-released podcast and forwarded it to me:
"I shall go on to the end, I shall fight on Reddit, I shall fight on MacRumors, I shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength with apps, I shall defend WayTools, whatever the cost may be, I shall fight on Facebook pages, I shall fight on YouTube, I shall fight in texts and in Tweets, I shall fight in emails; I shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, my keyboard or a large part of it were crippled and deactivated, then my sock puppets beyond the seas, unseen and unguarded by site moderators, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, NextEngine, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the TextBlade."
I have a feeling, though, things might turn out a bit differently this time...
"I shall go on to the end, I shall fight on Reddit, I shall fight on MacRumors, I shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength with apps, I shall defend WayTools, whatever the cost may be, I shall fight on Facebook pages, I shall fight on YouTube, I shall fight in texts and in Tweets, I shall fight in emails; I shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, my keyboard or a large part of it were crippled and deactivated, then my sock puppets beyond the seas, unseen and unguarded by site moderators, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, NextEngine, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the TextBlade."
I have a feeling, though, things might turn out a bit differently this time...
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