Wayward Pines, WTF?

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  1. 63dot macrumors 603

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    I can't seem to figure out Wayward Pines but it has a great X-Files or Twilight Zone feel to it.

    It has to be more than a crooked sheriff and town nurse seemingly holding innocent people hostage in a made up town reminiscent of something from the Truman Show meets Stephen King.

     
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    I have not yet seen the show, but I burned through all three books in a weekend! Awesome series. Hang on tight!
     
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    Big reveal supposedly comes this Thursday. It has an android body snatchers type of thing, too and Sheriff Pope (Terrence Howard) seemed nearly indestructible (got beat on intensely, run over, and then shot but somehow I am convinced he will pop up again) so I guess he's not fully human or human at all.

    He got killed off early but common sense says the hottest male actor on television doesn't just get killed off after three episodes. Terrence Howard better come back! He's the only thing in wayward that makes this whole thing have any gravitas and worth watching. Like Empire (the TV show where he's the key character), he's also a bad guy we all love to hate.

    In Empire, the evil character played by Howard gets tossed in jail and is apparently out of the picture in running Empire Records but we all know he will get out and continue to be the villain of the show.

    The rest of the characters are either not convincing or very poorly cast in Wayward Pines. Too many times good books get destroyed by a movie or TV series.

    If Wayward Pines does in fact kill off Terrence Howard's evil character for real, then I will promptly stop watching the show. I barely get through the scenes of Wayward Pines that doesn't have him acting.
     
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    We've been watching and I think the show is pretty interesting. My wife and I keep trying to figure out if there is a supernatural element in play or not. At first it seemed all man made top secret government conspiracy, but then they started dropping some hints that there may be more to it.
     
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    With what appears to be an alien in last episode at the top of the cliff Ethan climbs up, people with wiped memories coming in from different time periods, and something that looks like dinosaurs at the outer fence, this is certainly all supernatural and far beyond just a US government experiment.

    I would think aliens have this place under control and have snatched people they freeze and use for later being able to wipe out most memories. The town could be in a different dimension, planet, or even in a huge spaceship. The main culprits like the teacher, some students, and the nurse are probably aliens.
     
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    Give it up for Melissa Leo, who plays Nurse Pam. She is great in the role. There has been at least one time in each episode where I've wanted to punch the smirk off that woman's face, that's how detestable Leo makes her.

    Not just detestable. The woman is psychotic. Plainly and simply psychotic.

    As far as the plot, please no spoilers! I want to enjoy this to the very end.

    People keep saying this series reminds them of The Prisoner, but that show had a very Cold War political element which I don't see here. I think of Wayward Pines as closer to Persons Unknown, another show about people trapped in a weird small town as an experiment.

    But even Persons Unknown never got this weird. Everything on Persons Unknown was explainable in the real world. There's definitely some bizarre stuff going on here, from time anomalies to ferocious critters beyond the barrier to a main road which doubles as a Mobius strip.

    You know there's a way out, though, because Dr. Jenkins seems to come and go as he pleases.
     
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    I don't know what we're going to find out on Thursday, but so far I'm just loving the show. My friend thinks it's all a VR simulation. I think they're on another planet or in a different dimension and when we see what Ethan sees at the top of the wall there will either be a complete void, or an unknown landscape.

    We can't begin to guess what direction this show is going until this week's show.

    And what about the children? What makes them so unusual....
     
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    Melissa Leo is certainly a great villain but the sheriff is key. If they don't bring back TH, what they should do is have Ethan turn out evil somehow via hypnosis.

    A great twist would be to have TH come back as an amnesia ridden car accident victim who turns out as the hero. Maybe WP could be a scenario being played out on an Xbox from another dimension.

    All we may end up being are game pieces in some alien's toy box. We could merely be toys like the diorama as depicted in the show's opening.

    More pedestrian theory:

    IF we want to keep this all in the US government conspiracy thing and leave out other universes, worm holes, and time travel and just have good old aliens, then my next guess is the the Secret Service, who do a lot of undefined things besides protecting the president, are then in on some nasty experiments. Toby Jones, the friendly town doctor, is the go-between between the aliens and the Secret Service.

    I didn't read any spoilers or books but just conjecture, but here's what I think could happen regarding secret service. A long time ago they got control over the events of Roswell and got some aliens. They were allowed to live in selected cities and towns. Unlike Men in Black where aliens on earth only live in Manhattan, the Roswell aliens live in out of the way small towns like Wayward Pines.

    Being similar to humans and having all the same faults and power struggles, the aliens in Wayward Pines are most recently up to to abducting people for various reasons. Like the TV series V, there are good aliens and bad aliens, and there are good people and bad people and lots of alliances involved.

    If this series is just for a year, then humans get to escape, but if show goes on, then people (and aliens) switch sides and the line between good guys and bad guys gets blurred. I may be taking too much from the show V, but most concepts like this, especially M. Night, are derivative and harken back to Twilight Zone episodes.

    There's nothing wrong with that, but what counts is how well the story is told.
     
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    Spoiler :

    Don't read this:

    From the E! network that talked about red hot Terrence Howard and his evil sheriff character, he's the heavy for the entire series. He is the ***** series. You don't go hiring someone from the top TV show of 2015 (Empire) and kill him off at the beginning in Wayward Pines. Duh!

    IMDB shows he is only out one episode, so his 9 episode showing means he comes back. Also as suspected, Beverly comes back. Juliette Lewis is also too big a name to kill off from a TV show early on. She is also listed for 9 out of the 10 episodes.

    These people don't die, if in fact they are people in the first place.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2618986/fullcredits/
     
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    Oh I like that!
     
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    The only one I could be sure of being human is Agent Burke. His former partner seems a little altered and may not be the same person. The doctor and nurse are highly suspect. I think the nurse is evil but the doctor may want to help. We will find out the main secret tomorrow.

    And the sheriff, he's totally not a real person. You saw he got run over and shot and dragged off by raptors and now he's coming back for six more episodes? Unless Terrence Howard only shows up as flashbacks in all those episodes which is highly unlikely, he's going to be in it to cause problems for Agent Burke.
     
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    I don't think we need aliens to explain what is going on here. Years ago there was a Time Tunnel remake that postulated that the Tunnel ripped open a hole in the fabric of time that it couldn't close. All kinds of temporal anomalies ensued, including people showing up who previously didn't exist. Something like that could also explain dead people reappearing. The town may also be fenced in because beyond there the prehistoric era prevails.
     
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    The title reminds me of Twin Peaks. Any similarity in atmosphere?
     
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    Only that it's strange and incomprehensible. There's no body and no killer. We don't even know what we're looking at yet.
     
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    This show is trying very hard to rip off LOST!

    I'll keep watching though.
     
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    Okay, so tonight's episode explained the basic premise behind the show. I won't spoil it, but I must say that I'm very surprised. While it's an interesting concept, I'm skeptical.

    I agree that Lost is the show that Wayward Pines has most reminded me of. Up until this point it's had a very similar feel.
     
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    It's becoming interesting with a few questions that need to be answered.

    So this thread might be spoiler free ? Is there a consensus?

    Because I do have questions and after tonite a couple early theories.
     
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    With the move to Xenforo the forum has dedicated spoiler tags, so feel free to post what you want, just use the tag.

    For example...

    Like this
     
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    Just stay away from E! and other entertainment shows regarding spoilers. They spill everything.

    I listen to a show on ABC news talk while driving and everything TV and movie related is unearthed early so I try to shut it off when that happens. Two weeks before Survivor season 1 ended, and before I saw it, I knew all about Richard Hatch the eventual winner. That kind of ruined the whole show for me knowing that gets leaked.

    The Bachelor was fun until the tabloids pretty much leaked the final outcome (months before season finale) with pics, emails, and generally spoiling evidence showing the final couple together and often reporting on the usual fact that they broke up before the final aired show.
     
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    Cool. Still getting use to the new way.hehe

    I don't think it's really year 4500
     
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    My early thoughts...

    The whole premise of telling the kids about the truth while keeping the adults in the dark just seems really stupid. I mean this scientist and whoever is helping him are so intelligent and advanced technologically that they can travel through time, put people into suspended sleep, and build/maintain the town. Yet, they are so socially inept that the only way they can engage and motive the adults is through lies, coercion, fear, and the threat of violence or murder. Really?!? That just seems so ridiculous from a "survival of the species" standpoint.
     
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    I concur completely. There's something else going on.
     
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    Spoiler? (not exactly)

    Though there are major sites (Yahoo on TV shows) mentioning stuff about future episodes where there are certainly spoilers regarding the upcoming plots, IMDB made a minor change.

    ...............

    Originally the dead characters of Sheriff Pope and Beverly were credited with 9 episodes each in this 10 episode season. But since neither character showed up last night (unless they were turned into Abbies) they are credited now with 8 episodes each in the first season.

    Apparently nobody dies here if IMDB is correct in their episode credits for the actors.

    Beyond just time travel, there's bringing people back to life, as well as the impossible task of freezing people and bringing them back to life two thousand years later.

    A guess is that we are still in 2014 but the ruins of Boise are a fake. People in Wayward Pines could be hypnotized to forget their own timelines and be convinced they were there for years when in fact they have been there only for months.

    Wiping memories and clouding the truth is a great way for the leaders (town doctor and nurse among others) to keep control of the village. Why controlling such a small population is important is probably a secret yet to be revealed.

    In an earlier sequence when Burke went to the warehouse where he saw his car stored, there were other cities that were mentioned that are possibly also prison type living arrangements.

    There doesn't seem to be any type of visible economy where getting workers is an advantage (so far) so the reason of why they are there is yet to be answered.

    As for being the last hope of humanity, I don't buy that story. And if the Aggies are as fast and able as they are shown to be, there would be no problem for them to jump over the walls and take over the town. If the barbarians can get over the Great Wall of China, I am sure the Aggies could make their way into town.

    .............

    Another vampire/zombie theory is that some of the people in town go from being humans to being Aggies at will.
     
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    Perhaps they are playing around with DNA and cloning. This could explain some cloning gone bad. AKA the Abbies.

    Clone a dead person and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
     
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    I concur.

    The biggest problem I have with that is that SOME adults are clearly n the loop, Pilchard, the nurse, the teacher and now Burke. Why only them? And if Burke's former partenr/love interest has really been here for 12 years and the goal is repopulation, why aren't there more babies. Wouldn't the adults be encouraged to have lots of kids? Why rely on popsicle kids?

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