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Well when I got my 4s I was able to walk in to the AT&T store at around 3 pm launch day and walk out with the phone. Hoping that will be the same this year. What model usually sells out first, 16 gb?

Yeah but when the 4S came out, we were able to preorder, so most of the demand for that phone was already taken care of well before release day. When the 5S comes out, there will be a ton more people at the stores since that is basically their only option if they want the phone that day.
 
I seriously hope Apple reconsiders or some third party reseller allows pre orders.
 
how long will it be until the carrier stores have the phone in stock? I need to sign up for a new plan with Verizon so I'd like to go to the Verizon store to get my phone...
 
So i asked an Apple employee. (Pic is in german but i'll give you a translation)

The guy basically says, that it is not planned to make the 5S preorder-able. It will be in Apple Stores on the 20th. For carriers and other third party reseller you'll have to ask them on your own when they have the new iPhone available.
 

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how long will it be until the carrier stores have the phone in stock? I need to sign up for a new plan with Verizon so I'd like to go to the Verizon store to get my phone...

If like the 5, you can order same day, or show up in carrier store same day of release.
 
Looks like i"ll be up really bright and early on the 20th to order online.

I'll be up with you man.

I don't see the mass hysteria w/ people lining up for the 5S, but maybe that's just me. Also, download the Apple store app purchase your phone and pick it at the Apple store that evening or following day. Apple has made this process easier over the years.

Hopefully, but see below:

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Unless Apple makes some type of exception, yes -- you can order and pay online, and have it held at the store for pickup later that day

If they are not doing pre-orders, I will almost bet they will not do in store pick up for a few weeks. If I remember they didn't do in store pick up for the 5 until after the first month or later

How do I know which of the above it right?
 
So if we get online early enough on the 20th we should be able to get it same day?
 
how long will it be until the carrier stores have the phone in stock? I need to sign up for a new plan with Verizon so I'd like to go to the Verizon store to get my phone...
You can sign up for new plans at Apple Stores too.
 
This came from the live chat screen while waiting to chat with a representative:
 

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The question would then be if you can order for instore pickup the same day.
 
I was hoping to preorder the 5s and not have to wait. Will we have to change our cell phone plans? I'm on AT&T and have unlimited data.
 
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