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WeChat Users Group Sues Trump Administration Over 'Unconstitutional' Ban
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American businesses have been shouting that trust but verify China and the same seems turning out true about Chinese-Americans. US administration did lots of background work to protect the aspect of American people's future called private information before banning Chinese software companies so please support your goverment or leave this country. Your investment greed in these companies can not take priority over national interest and security.
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Nobody is anti-Chinese, just anti-genocidal dictatorship.
tell that to all the anti chinese hate crime going around the country that the media is not giving any spotlights to
Sooner this tosser of a president is gone the better. I hope the next president undoes everything this idiot has done.
More like Mark Zuckerberg looking out for Facebook
WSJ News Exclusive | Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Stoked Washington’s Fears About TikTok
Mark Zuckerberg emphasized that Chinese internet companies posed a threat as he worked to fend off U.S. regulation of Facebook.
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When Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg delivered a speech about freedom of expression in Washington, D.C., last fall, there was also another agenda: to raise the alarm about the threat from Chinese tech companies and, more specifically, the popular video-sharing app TikTok.
Tucked into the speech was a line pointing to Facebook’s rising rival: Mr. Zuckerberg told Georgetown students that TikTok doesn’t share Facebook’s commitment to freedom of expression, and represents a risk to American values and technological supremacy.
That was a message Mr. Zuckerberg hammered behind the scenes in meetings with officials and lawmakers during the October trip and a separate visit to Washington weeks earlier, according to people familiar with the matter.
In a private dinner at the White House in late October, Mr. Zuckerberg made the case to President Trump that the rise of Chinese internet companies threatens American business, and should be a bigger concern than reining in Facebook[/B], some of the people said.
Mr. Zuckerberg discussed TikTok specifically in meetings with several senators, according to people familiar with the meetings. In late October, Sen. Tom Cotton (R., Ark.) — who met with Mr. Zuckerberg in September — and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) wrote a letter to intelligence officials demanding an inquiry into TikTok. The government began a national-security review of the company soon after, and by the spring, Mr. Trump began threatening to ban the app entirely. This month he signed an executive order demanding that TikTok’s Chinese owner, ByteDance Ltd., divest itself of its U.S. operations.
Few tech companies have as much to gain as Facebook from TikTok’s travails, and the social-media giant has taken an active role in raising concerns about the popular app and its Chinese owners.
In addition to Mr. Zuckerberg’s personal outreach and public statements about Chinese competition, Facebook has established an advocacy group, called American Edge, that has begun running ads extolling U.S. tech companies for their contributions to American economic might, national security and cultural influence. And Facebook overall in the first half of this year spent more on lobbying than any other single company, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics. In 2018, by contrast, it ranked eighth among companies, the center’s data show.
Facebook spokesman Andy Stone said Mr. Zuckerberg has no recollection of discussing TikTok at the dinner.
The CEO’s comments in Washington about the Chinese app were tied into Facebook’s campaign to blunt antitrust and regulatory threats by emphasizing Facebook’s importance to U.S. tech pre-eminence, he said.
While Facebook once acquired startups such as TikTok that it viewed as potential threats, scrutiny from antitrust authorities makes those deals more fraught for big tech companies, so they might look to other defensive measures instead, Mr. Wieser said. “You might then in fact welcome more regulation or things that would limit the opportunities for upstarts,” he said.
Facebook’s Instagram unit this month launched its own video-sharing feature, called Reels, and is trying to poach TikTok creators by paying some users if they post videos exclusively to the new service.
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Tucked into the speech was a line pointing to Facebook’s rising rival: Mr. Zuckerberg told Georgetown students that TikTok doesn’t share Facebook’s commitment to freedom of expression, and represents a risk to American values and technological supremacy.
That was a message Mr. Zuckerberg hammered behind the scenes in meetings with officials and lawmakers during the October trip and a separate visit to Washington weeks earlier, according to people familiar with the matter.
In a private dinner at the White House in late October, Mr. Zuckerberg made the case to President Trump that the rise of Chinese internet companies threatens American business, and should be a bigger concern than reining in Facebook[/B], some of the people said.
Mr. Zuckerberg discussed TikTok specifically in meetings with several senators, according to people familiar with the meetings. In late October, Sen. Tom Cotton (R., Ark.) — who met with Mr. Zuckerberg in September — and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) wrote a letter to intelligence officials demanding an inquiry into TikTok. The government began a national-security review of the company soon after, and by the spring, Mr. Trump began threatening to ban the app entirely. This month he signed an executive order demanding that TikTok’s Chinese owner, ByteDance Ltd., divest itself of its U.S. operations.
Few tech companies have as much to gain as Facebook from TikTok’s travails, and the social-media giant has taken an active role in raising concerns about the popular app and its Chinese owners.
In addition to Mr. Zuckerberg’s personal outreach and public statements about Chinese competition, Facebook has established an advocacy group, called American Edge, that has begun running ads extolling U.S. tech companies for their contributions to American economic might, national security and cultural influence. And Facebook overall in the first half of this year spent more on lobbying than any other single company, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics. In 2018, by contrast, it ranked eighth among companies, the center’s data show.
Facebook spokesman Andy Stone said Mr. Zuckerberg has no recollection of discussing TikTok at the dinner.
The CEO’s comments in Washington about the Chinese app were tied into Facebook’s campaign to blunt antitrust and regulatory threats by emphasizing Facebook’s importance to U.S. tech pre-eminence, he said.
While Facebook once acquired startups such as TikTok that it viewed as potential threats, scrutiny from antitrust authorities makes those deals more fraught for big tech companies, so they might look to other defensive measures instead, Mr. Wieser said. “You might then in fact welcome more regulation or things that would limit the opportunities for upstarts,” he said.
Facebook’s Instagram unit this month launched its own video-sharing feature, called Reels, and is trying to poach TikTok creators by paying some users if they post videos exclusively to the new service.
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I wonder if the WeChat group is being directed by the Chinese government ?
Ban it. Why should China get free reign to distribute its apps in the US and the US not getting the same in China.
Turnaround is fair play. Expect that from human beings.
Ban both Tik Tok and We Chat. If people want to side load it then thats on them but they could be opening themselves up to suspicion and the servers can still be blocked from operating.
Its literally the only thing I agree with Trump on is his China posture. I know he isnt serious about it but its something.
Nothing Americans love more than hearing about free speech from all the countries that have minimal to no protections for it and many which have active suppression of it. Free speech has rational legal limits some of which are too much and too little and is a source of healthy debate in the US. The rest of the world - worry about your own speech and we will worry about ours.
Mind reading is my favorite thing. The fact is, whether Trump influenced or not, the consensus among the DNC debates and on the right is China is not to be trusted and we screwed up putting our eggs in that basket. Whether Trump is serious or not he will act as if he is because most people on both sides are now suspicious of China.
Oh for god sake let’s step off the drama llama. This sounds like the same as people say we have concentration camps in the USA 🤦♂️😂
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Yeah why doubt when you can just jump to conclusions.
That sounds just a bit childish. I will say wars are often started for silly reasons like that though.
There is a fundamental difference here. Apple is a private entity. Therefore, they can elect to serve content or not serve content on their own platform, so long as they don’t violate laws governing such platform or marketplace. Consumers can seek those services elsewhere.
Trump’s idiotic moves, on the other hand, are part of a government incursion into free enterprise, which may not only be illegal but could have widespread impact on consumers and businesses. Remind me, isn‘t that something Republican party frowns upon? You know, government interference in free market. Or is it just another example of the #GOPHypocrisy?
In short, I disagree. There is a very clear difference here.
Also calling apps based out of China spyware it’s just silly. There has been zero evidence that TikTok or WeChat has been used to spy on US citizens.
Taking pity on the Chinese Americans actually seems offensive to me. It's as if the Chinese Americans are helpless if they don't have wechat on their iPhones, and need the help of white people to communicate with their family.On the contrary, the Chinese are very resourceful. Banning wechat from iOS will only hurt Apple. People will just get Android phones and life goes on.
You do realize that if a ban happens, it will be on Android as well, right?
The ban won’t affect android phones in China nor will it stop people from side loading WeChat on Android phones in the USA
This is the oldest and most tired defense trotted out there. It is confirmed that TikTok is actively capturing real time GPS locations on installed devices. This means that the CCP has real time knowledge of any member of the military or intelligence community with TikTok on their device. That is and of itself is enough. Not to mention all of the other demographic data and contact information being accessed and stored IN CHINA from those devices.
It’s not a tired defense if it’s accurate. Hundreds or thousands of apps in the App Store capture real time GPS locations. Are they sending this to some military intelligence agency? Just because an app captures GPS location does it mean it’s sending it to some spy agency or using it for nefarious purposes. That tinfoil hat is a little bit tight on you
It’s amusing to watch gullible people fall for it again. Have you noticed how America always has a boogieman to fear? If it’s not Russia, it‘s terrorists (not the white, naturally born ones, of course — the brown ones, half a world away) and now it‘s China. It isn’t to say China is a paradise on earth. Far from it (and I‘ve spend plenty of time there) The point is that our own government does exactly the same thing. We‘ve committed genocide, horrific war crimes, we‘ve shielded Nazis and brought them here to exploit them, we started illegal wars, we’ve murdered our own citizens (overtly, subversively and due to negligence or greed). We have a broken justice system, broken education system, healthcare system, infrastructure. ruling elite able buy politicians and elections, we are run by special interest. At best, we have a corporate oligarchy. We’re not really a democracy.
May that’s why those in power continually invent a new boogieman, new enemy for us to hate. Scared populace is much easier to manipulate. The government, any government, is not your friend.
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Unlike, ahem, A Patriot Act.
May that’s why those in power continually invent a new boogieman, new enemy for us to hate. Scared populace is much easier to manipulate. The government, any government, is not your friend.
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Unlike, ahem, A Patriot Act.
The elephant in the room is what this boils down to is racism. Facebook does everything TickTock does but it’s owned by a Caucasian so it's okay. TikTok is owned by a Chinese so it’s not okay.
We've so far came to the conclusion in the USA that it’s not OK to be racist against African-Americans and maybe sometimes it’s not OK to be racist against Mexican Americans but it’s OK to be racist against Chinese people because they’re bad🤦♂️
We've so far came to the conclusion in the USA that it’s not OK to be racist against African-Americans and maybe sometimes it’s not OK to be racist against Mexican Americans but it’s OK to be racist against Chinese people because they’re bad🤦♂️