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Really? Which ones?
No idea. But I remember they were very early builds, that were basically Leopard. Sort of how the early Leopard builds that run on G3s have the same UI as Tiger. So if someone were to find these early internal builds, they probably wouldn't be any better than running Leopard.
Hi Project,

Please do tell.
I think we're all going mad ;-)

Best regards,
voidRunner

I learned all of this information on these forums somewhere. A few years ago I did a lot research on the subject and that was about the only thing I uncovered.
 
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No idea. But I remember they were very early builds, that were basically Leopard. Sort of how the early Leopard builds that run on G3s have the same UI as Tiger. So if someone were to find these early internal builds, they probably wouldn't be any better than running Leopard.


I learned all of this information on these forums somewhere. A few years ago I did a lot research on the subject and that was about the only thing I uncovered.
rabidz7 maintained that Apple has made a PowerPC version of every OS X release from Snow Leopard on. They then lock them up in a vault deep inside Apple HQ somewhere.

Presumably then there'd be a PowerPC version of OS X Catalina.
 
Well Apple did have X86 versions of OSX from the start...so you can see where his thinking came from but would they be keeping under wraps now, ARM, Power8, Power9 or 10 ;)
Well, I imagine they have versions that will allow you to run Catalina and before on an Apple I and Apple II. There'd also be a version of OS9 that will boot and run natively on the new Mac Pro.

Apple just doesn't let this stuff off the premises though, you know. ;)
 
rabidz7 maintained that Apple has made a PowerPC version of every OS X release from Snow Leopard on. They then lock them up in a vault deep inside Apple HQ somewhere.

Presumably then there'd be a PowerPC version of OS X Catalina.
I'd imagine that more realistically they maintained a PPC version of at least SL and maybe Lion 10.7, probably seeing how well they fared vs their current intel lineup. At the time it would've been POWER8 probably? unless they were using freescales dual core G4 based CPUs.
But I'd be surprised if they were doing any of that now. I'd be happy if Apple picked up AMD. Very happy. Granted, I'll probably never buy a Mac newer than my Mac Pro 5,1 anyways. With the direction Apple is going, I'll be purchasing a Ryzen 4000 based ThinkPad when Lenovo gets around to releasing them.
 
Hi JoyBed,

Do you need a zip file of the Pathfind app ready to run?

Best regards,
voidRunner
No thanks. It doesnt run and crash with the same error as the Finder. I scanned the HDD for errors and well... Its old as the PBG4 and has lots of faults. Today it doesnt even boot, on its own, seems like its failing. Time for SSD upgrade ;)

False. Very possible. Just hard work. There is some PPC code in SL, that's been proven. There are early builds that actually run on PPC just fine.
It would require lots of re-compiling for the architecture. If we actually had the source code for SL, it would be more than possible.
Actually there is a lot of source code of the 10.6 but there is a catch. Endianness of the source code is for Intel and there is some inline assembler so... (HINT: I dont know Assembler)

rabidz7 maintained that Apple has made a PowerPC version of every OS X release from Snow Leopard on. They then lock them up in a vault deep inside Apple HQ somewhere.

Presumably then there'd be a PowerPC version of OS X Catalina.
Well, I imagine they have versions that will allow you to run Catalina and before on an Apple I and Apple II. There'd also be a version of OS9 that will boot and run natively on the new Mac Pro.

Apple just doesn't let this stuff off the premises though, you know. ;)
Its very possible if not the case, our beloved Steve Jobs stated that there was Intel version of every OS for the whole time... So... Its same like with S*ny. I work for them, in the Br*via TV segment. They also have a TON of software that enables their low end TVs do the same things as their high-end TV(which are in price range of 2000-12000€) so I strongly believe that there are some version of newer OSes for PPC but I suppose they require more raw power than G5 QUAD can deliver. Like with the S*ny TVs, the dirt cheap TV will do everything like the 3000€ TV BUT! For example YouTube... It runs but loads and runs like sh*t, but it works.
 
If anyone knew assembly language, assuming OS X Snow Leopard was written in this, then it could be possible to disassemble it and re-write it to work on PPC - again, something Dosdude can do.
 
There'd also be a version of OS9 that will boot and run natively on the new Mac Pro.

Just imagine how stupidly fast an x86 build of OS 9 would be on today's hardware :eek:
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Well Apple did have X86 versions of OSX from the start...
...which I'm still pipe-dreaming about them seeing the light of day someday.
 
I was thinking while I was feeding my pets, I once stumbled across one forum where someone was claiming he put 7448 in his PBG4 DLSD(the same as mine) and got more than 2gigs of ram working and pushed his 7448 to 2,3ghz. But everyone was taking it as a joke and troll. But in my thinking about it I remembered that I once was reading datasheets and whitepapers of 7447A/B 7448 family of G4 CPUs and there was a lot of text about the 36bit addressing of RAM. The RAM slots on these powerbook are wired to take 2gig modules in the slots, that why you can put there a 2gig ram card and be done. So it means that there are data/address lines to allow at least 4gigs total. Schematics of the PBG4 proves it. I once tried to turn on the 36bit addressing mode but the OS X then refused to work, if he just got around this problem of OS X refusing to work with more than 2gigs of ram than its not that impossible as everyone was thinking on the forum. Any thoughts on this?
 
Here it is. Black on white.

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I'd imagine that more realistically they maintained a PPC version of at least SL and maybe Lion 10.7, probably seeing how well they fared vs their current intel lineup. At the time it would've been POWER8 probably? unless they were using freescales dual core G4 based CPUs.
I'm also sure this absolutely never happened. The decision to ditch PPC was probably made in 2004.
 
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I'm also sure this absolutely never happened. The decision to ditch PPC was probably made in 2004.
I'd say its perfectly possible, even if it was just to test to see how far their new OS versions could go on older hardware done by a curious engineer (I know I would do that if I were a software engineer at Apple during that time and able to perform such a test).
But we don't. So it's impossible.
More unlikely things have happened ;)
Personally, I like to party with people who live a life that is based in reality.....
I'd say that neither person isn't based in reality, they're just considering different sides of the equation.
 
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Everybody braging about wheter PPC is alive in Apple intern devs center or not and not even reading thru my ideas :D As I said, I think there are some version of PPC but not all of them, maybe like 3 or 4 and then nothing more. So nobody any thought on my RAM idea?
 
I'm surprised you haven't had comments - there's usually a violent reaction to alternative plans Apple may have had for the last Powerbooks...
I think everybody is trying do defend their own opinion :D And im just throwing my ideas in the air hoping someone will catch on them.
 
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I'm surprised you haven't had comments - there's usually a violent reaction to alternative plans Apple may have had for the last Powerbooks...
I would say that's because OP has proven results (such as unsupported Java versions getting installed per his instructions). Unlike a former member that only TALKED about the wild ideas he had while demanding we all provide him with logicboard pictures.
 
I would say that's because OP has proven results (such as unsupported Java versions getting installed per his instructions). Unlike a former member that only TALKED about the wild ideas he had while demanding we all provide him with logicboard pictures.

I'm referring more to linked references to ambiguous Apple data sheets that were met with derision in the past.
 
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This is entirely possible, just that it would be hard to get it to work. Maybe for DosDude he can get the G4 to recognize 4GB of memory. That would be nice though. I would like to upgrade my PB G4 DLSD to 4GB of memory, who wouldn’t ?

As for Snow Leopard ? If it’s written in assembly then you would need a disassembler to add the PPC instructions for it to work. You would also need to do it for 10.6.8 as the final version for PPC. Lion has no PPC code. Really, I wouldn’t mind 4GB in the 7447a of 7448.
 
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