What 8GB RAM Did You Get For Your MBP?

[marc11]

You know, I am trying hard not to litter this thread, but you seem to continue with the personal attacks, so here goes.

First you say there is a $20 difference for the same RAM Apple sells, but then your own logic is a fail because the difference in the numbers you posted is $30. And OWC is not the only place to buy memory, so your point of reference is an also FAIL. Second, you keep saying quality ram vs cheap ram, but your only point of reference is PRICE, which is what I pointed out. Then you go on to insult me personally which was uncalled for, can you not have a debate without insulting people, or should I just always agree with you?

Now, for the last time, define quality ram and tell me how price comes into play? Is Kingston ram not quality? Why? And at what price point do I get quality ram?

I paid $69 for my 8gb of Kingston ram from Buy.com during a special, quality shop, quality memory. That is $71 less than Samsung from OWC and $41 less than the prices you quoted, but since it is not Samsung it isn't good? Based on what? Price or brand only?

How about speed, latency, warranty, reports of defects, known compatibility issues or failure rates? IMHO, those are quantifiable values to which you should base a buying decision on, not just brand, not just price.

I know I am slow, and clearly you are smarter than anyone here, so please, tell me what quality ram is?

 

[themac23]

Samsung 8gb RAM (datamemorysystems.com) = $110
Average price for cheap RAM paid by most here = $90

If elementary school taught me anything, that is a $20 difference. Wow. I had to spell it out twice and you still can't subtract.

Why is it better? Simply because Apple uses it. Do you think that if Kingston, Crucial, or the other cheap brands were just as good in all aspects Apple wouldn't use them to cut costs? Of course they would, and I am sure all of those companies would be more than happy to jump on the Apple ship. Even if you still have doubts about which is better, does than $20 make that much of a difference in your life that spending it to make sure you have the best quality RAM will mean you can't eat tonight?

If you like the cheap RAM then by all means buy it. Just don't get on here and lie to people stating all RAM is the same because it's not.

 

[superfula]

Samsung 8gb RAM (datamemorysystems.com) = $110
Average price for cheap RAM paid by most here = $90

If elementary school taught me anything, that is a $20 difference. Wow. I had to spell it out twice and you still can't subtract.

Why is it better? Simply because Apple uses it. Do you think that if Kingston, Crucial, or the other cheap brands were just as good in all aspects Apple wouldn't use them to cut costs? Of course they would, and I am sure all of those companies would be more than happy to jump on the Apple ship. Even if you still have doubts about which is better, does than $20 make that much of a difference in your life that spending it to make sure you have the best quality RAM will mean you can't eat tonight?

If you like the cheap RAM then by all means buy it. Just don't get on here and lie to people stating all RAM is the same because it's not.

Ok, first, Crucial, Corsair and GSkill don't manufacture ram. They are nothing more than resellers that rebrand Micron, Samsung, Elpida and Hynix...companies that actually make ram. Much like Apple, the resellers buy in bulk. However, they choose to sell at a lower price, whereas Apple chooses to rip people off. So you see, to say Samsung is better than Crucial or Corsair doesn't make much sense.

Secondly....so Samsung ram is better than others because Apple uses it? I do hope you are joking. Apple will put in the cheapest ram possible to maximize profits. They'll get prices from different manufacturers and take the best deal. If Elpida and Hynix were bidding and Hynix came in lower, they'd go with the lower price.

You seem to be perpetuating the lie that Apple only uses the best parts, which I had assumed was dead.

 

[themac23]

Ok, first, Crucial, Corsair and GSkill don't manufacture ram. They are nothing more than resellers that rebrand Micron, Samsung, Elpida and Hynix...companies that actually make ram. Much like Apple, the resellers buy in bulk. However, they choose to sell at a lower price, whereas Apple chooses to rip people off. So you see, to say Samsung is better than Crucial or Corsair doesn't make much sense.

Secondly....so Samsung ram is better than others because Apple uses it? I do hope you are joking. Apple will put in the cheapest ram possible to maximize profits. They'll get prices from different manufacturers and take the best deal. If Elpida and Hynix were bidding and Hynix came in lower, they'd go with the lower price.

You seem to be perpetuating the lie that Apple only uses the best parts, which I had assumed was dead.

You seem to be perpetuating the lie that Apple chose Samsung because they had a lower bid. I can assume you have no facts even close to prove what you are saying. Did they choose Intel processors over AMD because the Intel's were cheaper too? Not even close. They chose them because they are better. How about their screen panels....they chose those because they were cheaper too, huh? They just happen to be better than most other panels on the market. You know, common sense really does play a part in our lives. Why don't you emply some at least part of your day.

 

[superfula]

You seem to be perpetuating the lie that Apple chose Samsung because they had a lower bid. I can assume you have no facts even close to prove what you are saying. Did they choose Intel processors over AMD because the Intel's were cheaper too? Not even close. They chose them because they are better. How about their screen panels....they chose those because they were cheaper too, huh? They just happen to be better than most other panels on the market. You know, common sense really does play a part in our lives. Why don't you emply some at least part of your day.

Wow. No need for personal attacks here.

Given your attitude I'm assuming this is 300D back to haunt us all.

It's all about price. This is how companies work...it's econ 101. If a company operated any other way they wouldn't be successful. This is largely the reason you see companies buying Dells and HPs in bulk rather than Macs. Usability be damned, it's all about price in the corporate world. Granted they won't use absolute crap products (some companies might, though), but they won't use the best unless it's a competitive price. Apple chose Intel over AMD because it was a better processor AND they were able to give Apple a better price. You don't really think Apple used IBM processors for all those years because they thought they were better, do you? No one thought they were better. Given Apple's history of screens, price is about the only reason they chose what they did. They certainly aren't the best.

Anyway, this is quite a way from the topic the op started. There's a thread talking about this very thing >> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1126371/ Be warned...if you post there you'll be the only one that still thinks Apple uses the best.

Back to the topic...I went with Crucial simply because they are priced competitively, ship quickly, and have never had issues with them.

 

[themac23]

None the less. Check out the results of the poll. It speaks for itself. Most of us aren't buying the cheapest brands out. To me, spending an extra $20 for the OEM Samsung RAM is worth it.

 

[iMackPro]

You would have saved money by getting the 2 Gb of ram that comes standard and then buying 8 to replace it.

I paid $40 for 8 at MicroCenter several months ago. It was on sale. I just checked and the prices are almost double now.

im new to the whole pc BTO scene. when i ordered my macbook i had no idea i could swap out the ram or upgrade through thirdparty products. although, im not disappointed with my purchase. i paid 180 with my education discount, and it came preinstalled with macbook and it was all ready to use. So, im sure youre right and i could have saved a dollar here and there. but after spending 2200 whats another 150 right?

 

[superfula]

None the less. Check out the results of the poll. It speaks for itself. Most of us aren't buying the cheapest brands out. To me, spending an extra $20 for the OEM Samsung RAM is worth it.

Ah, no. Read the posts in the thread. The large majority are buying the cheaper ram, it just may not be Crucial or GSkill.

But given your previous posts under this username and under 300D, this is exactly the stance I knew you'd take.

 

[themac23]

Ah, no. Read the posts in the thread. The large majority are buying the cheaper ram, it just may not be Crucial or GSkill.

But given your previous posts under this username and under 300D, this is exactly the stance I knew you'd take.

Sounds like someone else rubbed you the wrong way. It's not surprising from reading the lies you post here.

 

[KoL]

Crucial

 

[fr4c]

You seem to be perpetuating the lie that Apple chose Samsung because they had a lower bid. I can assume you have no facts even close to prove what you are saying. Did they choose Intel processors over AMD because the Intel's were cheaper too? Not even close. They chose them because they are better. How about their screen panels....they chose those because they were cheaper too, huh? They just happen to be better than most other panels on the market. You know, common sense really does play a part in our lives. Why don't you emply some at least part of your day.

If you owned Macs long enough, you would know that the memory that Apple uses varies (Hynix, Samsung, etc.) based on the supply/availability and market prices of memory. Most of these "cheap brands" that you mention are simply rebranded memory chips from the major suppliers (Hynix, Samsung, Micron, etc.) which is same as what Apple is doing. If you're telling me that Apple sticker on the chip gives you a better sense of satisfaction than the rest of us, then fine. But don't go around spreading nonsense of inferior memory when you have no idea of what you're talking about.

 

[themac23]

So now Samsung memory purchased from datamemorysytems.com comes with an Apple logo on the memory stick? How about you read the thread before posting. And I am the one who doesn't know what I am talking about, huh? You clearly can't read. Not to mention, your theory just shows us you bought the cheapest RAM you could find and are talking yourself into believing the lie. Enjoy your inferior chips to save a mere $20.

 

[fr4c]

So now Samsung memory purchased from datamemorysytems.com comes with an Apple logo on the memory stick? How about you read the thread before posting. And I am the one who doesn't know what I am talking about, huh? You clearly can't read. Not to mention, your theory just shows us you bought the cheapest RAM you could find and are talking yourself into believing the lie. Enjoy your inferior chips to save a mere $20.

Did you not buy the Samsung memory from datamemorysystems.com because that is what Apple uses? Were you not trying to convince that rest of us that because Apple uses Samsung chips, it was superior to all of the other brands? Essentially you're telling us that the Samsung chips you use are "better" because it is identical to what Apple packages, slaps on a sticker, and installs it in the computer. Enjoy your superior chips.

 

[X2468]

Prices tend to fluctuate because ram is a commodity item. When I bought my new BTO 2010 15" MBP, I had Apple build mine with 8GB, since at the time it was virtually the same price as the various top of the line aftermarket brands.

 

[SuperCachetes]

Did you not buy the Samsung memory from datamemorysystems.com because that is what Apple uses? Were you not trying to convince that rest of us that because Apple uses Samsung chips, it was superior to all of the other brands? Essentially you're telling us that the Samsung chips you use are "better" because it is identical to what Apple packages, slaps on a sticker, and installs it in the computer. Enjoy your superior chips.

Yep:

Why is it better? Simply because Apple uses it.

I would like to know what metric, other than a popularity contest, we are using to define memory module superiority. My Mac runs just fine on the "inferior" stuff and I still have my $20. Win.

 

[themac23]

"I like my Toyota Tercel, and still have the $60,000 I saved on an M3. Win!"

Sure buddy.

 

[SuperCachetes]

"I like my Toyota Tercel, and still have the $60,000 I saved on an M3. Win!"

Sure buddy.

You honestly think my computer performs slower or looks different because of the memory I have?

Do you not understand computers, or are you just really bad at analogies?

Edit: And you segued right into my question, but rather than answer it, you took the opportunity to be snarky. Nice try.

To continue your poor analogy: show me the 0-60 test results, lap times, or other performance criteria that says the $20 is worth it. Hint: "Apple uses it" is not an acceptable data set.

 

[themac23]

You honestly think my computer performs slower or looks different because of the memory I have?

Do you not understand computers, or are you just really bad at analogies?

Edit: And you segued right into my question, but rather than answer it, you took the opportunity to be snarky. Nice try.

To continue your poor analogy: show me the 0-60 test results, lap times, or other performance criteria that says the $20 is worth it. Hint: "Apple uses it" is not an acceptable data set.

Show me proof that the $20 extra isn't worth it? It can go both ways. I would think that the fact that Apple chose this certain brand is more proof than you can provide otherwise. It's $20 bud.

 

[SuperCachetes]

Show me proof that the $20 extra isn't worth it? It can go both ways. I would think that the fact that Apple chose this certain brand is more proof than you can provide otherwise. It's $20 bud.

I already gave you proof enough in an earlier post: my machine runs the same on the memory I have as it did on the OEM stuff. No issues, no slowdowns, no freezes, no nothing. Over nine months. I could care less what Apple uses. You have absolutely no way of knowing why they choose the brands they do for OEM, and your claims to that effect so far have been baseless.

I wonder why, in the past view days, you've gained such confidence in the more expensive stuff? You seemed unsure a few days ago: Looky here. It's almost like you didn't read the very logical responses from knowledgable forum members in your own thread.

I think that the only thing that's changed since then is that you've bought more expensive RAM and are trying vehemently to justify it. That's cool, whatever floats your boat. But there's really no need to do it at the expense of everyone who chose a different, but equally successful option. Buddy.

 

[themac23]

That post was set up as a debate. Read it.

I happened to get info from one member where to buy my Samsung RAM even cheaper. Hence, even more reason to purchase it.

You can't prove anything except the fact that you are cheap. Anyone who can only afford a mediocre product is going to talk themselves into believeing what they have is great.

Hell, if $20 means that much to you, you shouldn't own a Macbook Pro.

 

[SuperCachetes]

That post was set up as a debate. Read it.

I happened to get info from one member where to buy my Samsung RAM even cheaper. Hence, even more reason to purchase it.

You can't prove anything except the fact that you are cheap. Anyone who can only afford a mediocre product is going to talk themselves into believeing what they have is great.

Hell, if $20 means that much to you, you shouldn't own a Macbook Pro.

Well, besides the fact that overpaying any amount is against my principles, when I bought my memory, the difference was more than $20. And before I purchased, I listened to people's advice rather than going off on my own and then coming back and trying to convince everyone else they're inferior. You are still throwing around terms such as "mediocre" and "cheap" like you know something...

You don't.

You've really trolled this thread into oblivion. Nice work.

 

[sugarboylovemac]

Hi All,

I am just found this

http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2465684&tstart=180

When purchasing DDR SDRAM for use in Macintosh computers, make sure the memory vendor conforms to the JEDEC (Joint Electron Device Engineering Council) specification. Check with your memory vendor to ensure that the DDR SDRAM supports the correct timing modes and that the Serial Presence Detect (SPD) feature has been programmed properly, as described in the JEDEC specification."

Go to JEDEC website, check the member list

http://www.jedec.org/about-jedec/member-list

there have samsung, ADATA Technology Co., Ltd., Kingston Technology Company Inc., Hynix Semiconductor America Inc......

So I think whatever what kinds of RAM.. just make sure the RAM is support your machine properly.

Kingston have a system-specific ram for Apple. So I think it is good to buy it anyway.

Of course, if someone come and show me the data and it can proof the Samsung RAM is better than other...otherwise I think they are same.

 

[adztaylor]

My Crucial RAM arrived this morning slotted them in and work perfectly fine. Never had any issue with them.

 

[marc11]

I think it is time to stop feeding the troll, it is the only way to make him go away.

 

[themac23]

I think its time to upgrade your Apple equipment. Its all outdated.