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What are your expectations for iTunes 9?
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iTunes does not have DVD support, and I only want Blu-Ray for backup purposes.
Just give everyone their own user account.
Honestly, they should rename iTunes, iMedia or something.
It's definitely not for "tunes" anymore. I like to see in the sidebar:
Music
Music Video
Movies
Home Video
TV Shows
Podcasts
Audiobooks
Photos
That's right. Photos. One place to view all my digital media. All linked to the proper OS X folder and not thrown in the iTunes folder which is located in the music folder. In 64-bit goodness.
Also, they should a feature to watch my folders so iMedia updates what I add or delete from the folder automatically.
It's definitely not for "tunes" anymore. I like to see in the sidebar:
Music
Music Video
Movies
Home Video
TV Shows
Podcasts
Audiobooks
Photos
That's right. Photos. One place to view all my digital media. All linked to the proper OS X folder and not thrown in the iTunes folder which is located in the music folder. In 64-bit goodness.
Also, they should a feature to watch my folders so iMedia updates what I add or delete from the folder automatically.
I'd rather have iTunes and iMedia be separate. It is just too much for one application to do very well. This would kinda defeat the purpose of most of the iLife applications. iMedia could never have the specialized tools of iMovie or iPhoto. Plus, the thing would be massive in size.
The only way I see Photos happening is by adding iPhoto integration and thats it.
I think iMedia or something similar would be a good move, but that means system folders would have to be changed to change the name and everything. If it happens, it will be a big update.
If you look, all of your iTunes system folders are called "iTunes". If the name changes, they would have to change the name of every single system file/folder that has to do with iTunes to the new name.
I see now. Just one of those moments. How hard could it be? I think Automator would be petty good at that.
I'm not saying to get rid of iMovie and iPhoto. You would still use those to do your editing and whatnot. I'm saying the viewing of the final product could be done with iMedia.
If they could do it like this, it would be a great setup make an Apple Home Server (similar to what HP has).
I'm not saying it would be difficult. Like you said, Automator would probably do the job, but the update, my guess will be a 500 MB + update if the name changes, features are added and sped is increased.
Also, do you think the new iTunes will be Snow Leopard only? Or will Leopard support be there too?
Damn the one thing I didn't think of. Good call.
I was playing around with this last night and don't think this would solve the problem. Each user acct has to have its own library (same as just creating multiple libraries. There is no great way to sync those libraries so when you add a song to one its in everyones library. It get more complicated when you have iphones and ipod touches and sharing apps etc. Unless maybe by putting the .lib and .xml files in the shared folder instead. But then you are back to square one and sharing all playlists etc. Unless there is a way I am looking to do this with multiple user accounts.
I'd like to see it properly sync CalDAV and subscription calendars to iPhones / iPod touches. Right now, you can:
a) Set up CalDAV and/or subscription calendars in iCal, and tell iTunes to sync your calendars to your iPhone or iPod. iPhone OS 3.0 supports both CalDAV and subscriptions, but this will not set them up on the device as such. It will sync them as normal calendars, as if they were just created on the computer. The device will not sync over the air with the CalDAV server, and it will not refresh subscription calendars.
b) Set up CalDAV and/or subscription calendars both in iCal and on the device, and don't tell iTunes to sync your calendars. This will allow the device to sync with CalDAV OTA and refresh subscriptions, but say you change your iPod events when you're not in Wifi, it won't add them to CalDAV and therefore even when syncing with your computer, your computer calendar won't pick them up until your iPod connects to the internet.
I REALLY just want Apple to allow syncing of CalDAV and subscriptions calendars while retaining their CalDAV and subscription status! Otherwise, why bother adding these functions to the iPhone OS in the first place?
a) Set up CalDAV and/or subscription calendars in iCal, and tell iTunes to sync your calendars to your iPhone or iPod. iPhone OS 3.0 supports both CalDAV and subscriptions, but this will not set them up on the device as such. It will sync them as normal calendars, as if they were just created on the computer. The device will not sync over the air with the CalDAV server, and it will not refresh subscription calendars.
b) Set up CalDAV and/or subscription calendars both in iCal and on the device, and don't tell iTunes to sync your calendars. This will allow the device to sync with CalDAV OTA and refresh subscriptions, but say you change your iPod events when you're not in Wifi, it won't add them to CalDAV and therefore even when syncing with your computer, your computer calendar won't pick them up until your iPod connects to the internet.
I REALLY just want Apple to allow syncing of CalDAV and subscriptions calendars while retaining their CalDAV and subscription status! Otherwise, why bother adding these functions to the iPhone OS in the first place?
The iPhone kernel extensions aren't 64-bit yet. You can't tether at the moment if you are booted in the 64 bit kernel.
Hopefully that will change in iTunes 9.
Speed and more speed.
Cover art shouldn't be this damn hard to find.
I would love to be able to import DVD's/Blu-ray's but would the movie studio let Apple do that? I don't think so.
I have multiple optical drives but I can't import more than one CD at a time. Why?
I want the option to buy Lossless files from the store, maybe then I'll stop buying CD's.
I want last.fm integration.
A better way to sort my apps would be nice.
In a lot ways iTunes is like an OS. A poorly written one. Even on a Mac Pro it is slow and unresponsive. I think it is in real need of a complete rewrite. It might have been an okay option in 01 but now in 09 it is a mess.
Cover art shouldn't be this damn hard to find.
I would love to be able to import DVD's/Blu-ray's but would the movie studio let Apple do that? I don't think so.
I have multiple optical drives but I can't import more than one CD at a time. Why?
I want the option to buy Lossless files from the store, maybe then I'll stop buying CD's.
I want last.fm integration.
A better way to sort my apps would be nice.
In a lot ways iTunes is like an OS. A poorly written one. Even on a Mac Pro it is slow and unresponsive. I think it is in real need of a complete rewrite. It might have been an okay option in 01 but now in 09 it is a mess.
- Separate Video & Music Libraries
With the scale tipping in favour of more people using laptops than desktops these days, the limited disk space on MacBooks can quickly become overwhelmed by the large files of HD video content.
This is a pressing issue that is only going to get worse as more people begin buying video on iTunes and HD 1080p content is eventually added.
Allow a user to specify a library for Video which can go on an external drive on the network and perhaps leave the music library on the laptop.
- Library Streaming or iTunes video streaming
One would complement the above feature by allowing you to remotely stream video stored on your network at home via MobileMe while the other would eliminate the need for it.
People listen to the same music very frequently. Great: music can be stored locally. The same cannot be said for video. You'll watch a TV show or movie a few times at most and then leave it in your library for the next time you want to watch it.
Store a user's purchase history and then allow them to stream video they've purchased without having to store it themselves.
- Rent, then Purchase
Sometimes I'll rent a movie and will like it so much that I would like to keep it. Currently, you'll already have spent the $5 bucks to rent so spending another $19.99 to own it is a little hard to swallow and discourages people from buying after renting.
Allow a user to purchase a movie after they've rented it by paying the difference -- even if there is a time limitation, say within the 24 or 48 hours that the movie is on your system.
Apple has nothing to lose with this as the user has already downloaded the content so there are no further bandwidth requirements, just a simple unlock of the file to remain on your system beyond the rental period.
- Social Networking
In the old days of TV and Cinema before digitally available shows and movies, you'd watch a show or movie and then share it with your friends by telling them about it and recommending the ones you liked.
Boxee has built the digital equivalent of this behaviour into their app. You can see what your friends have watched or listened to recently and take those as suggestions for yourself.
iTunes already allows for rating and commenting on TV shows, Movies and Music. By creating a Social application into iTunes, you could view what your friends have watched, see their ratings and comments and even have a "Share" feature where you'd recommend a title to a friend.
iTunes already has the User infrastructure built in via Apple ID's. It would be just a matter of inputting your friend's IDs to add them as iTunes Friends.
With the scale tipping in favour of more people using laptops than desktops these days, the limited disk space on MacBooks can quickly become overwhelmed by the large files of HD video content.
This is a pressing issue that is only going to get worse as more people begin buying video on iTunes and HD 1080p content is eventually added.
Allow a user to specify a library for Video which can go on an external drive on the network and perhaps leave the music library on the laptop.
- Library Streaming or iTunes video streaming
One would complement the above feature by allowing you to remotely stream video stored on your network at home via MobileMe while the other would eliminate the need for it.
People listen to the same music very frequently. Great: music can be stored locally. The same cannot be said for video. You'll watch a TV show or movie a few times at most and then leave it in your library for the next time you want to watch it.
Store a user's purchase history and then allow them to stream video they've purchased without having to store it themselves.
- Rent, then Purchase
Sometimes I'll rent a movie and will like it so much that I would like to keep it. Currently, you'll already have spent the $5 bucks to rent so spending another $19.99 to own it is a little hard to swallow and discourages people from buying after renting.
Allow a user to purchase a movie after they've rented it by paying the difference -- even if there is a time limitation, say within the 24 or 48 hours that the movie is on your system.
Apple has nothing to lose with this as the user has already downloaded the content so there are no further bandwidth requirements, just a simple unlock of the file to remain on your system beyond the rental period.
- Social Networking
In the old days of TV and Cinema before digitally available shows and movies, you'd watch a show or movie and then share it with your friends by telling them about it and recommending the ones you liked.
Boxee has built the digital equivalent of this behaviour into their app. You can see what your friends have watched or listened to recently and take those as suggestions for yourself.
iTunes already allows for rating and commenting on TV shows, Movies and Music. By creating a Social application into iTunes, you could view what your friends have watched, see their ratings and comments and even have a "Share" feature where you'd recommend a title to a friend.
iTunes already has the User infrastructure built in via Apple ID's. It would be just a matter of inputting your friend's IDs to add them as iTunes Friends.
My expectations are sort of low:
iTunes 9 will:
• remain a 32-bit Carbon application
• integrate with Facebook to show media suggestions (no Twitter or FriendFeed support), although social features will be minor
• support Apple's new 'CockTail' project (new "digital album" format with artwork).
• be marketed as a "faster"
• keep the iTunes application name and branding
• include improvements to iPhone and iPod touch sync
iTunes 9 will not:
• play back Blu-ray discs
• sport a new radical UI
• require QuickTime X or use Core Frameworks for playback
• support ColorSync
• support OpenCL or Grand Central Dispatch
• have built-in transcoding or any additional media sharing capabilities (no DLNA server support, etc)
• have a stand-alone server component for AirPort Extreme or Time Capsule
• have a "live streaming" video component or offer "live" iTunes Store content
• use WebKit to render iTunes Store pages
• support FLAC
• have Last.FM or Pandora support
• offer an iTunes Store subscription service
I'm also not expecting:
• The Beatles
• An Apple TV hardware update (although I do expect a silent price drop on Wednesday with the 160GB dropping down to the 40GB price).
iTunes 9 will:
• remain a 32-bit Carbon application
• integrate with Facebook to show media suggestions (no Twitter or FriendFeed support), although social features will be minor
• support Apple's new 'CockTail' project (new "digital album" format with artwork).
• be marketed as a "faster"
• keep the iTunes application name and branding
• include improvements to iPhone and iPod touch sync
iTunes 9 will not:
• play back Blu-ray discs
• sport a new radical UI
• require QuickTime X or use Core Frameworks for playback
• support ColorSync
• support OpenCL or Grand Central Dispatch
• have built-in transcoding or any additional media sharing capabilities (no DLNA server support, etc)
• have a stand-alone server component for AirPort Extreme or Time Capsule
• have a "live streaming" video component or offer "live" iTunes Store content
• use WebKit to render iTunes Store pages
• support FLAC
• have Last.FM or Pandora support
• offer an iTunes Store subscription service
I'm also not expecting:
• The Beatles
• An Apple TV hardware update (although I do expect a silent price drop on Wednesday with the 160GB dropping down to the 40GB price).
You're describing iTunes 8.3 not iTunes 9.
I think with the writing from the ground up of Quicktime and Leopard resulting in Quicktime X and Snow Leopard, it's fairly likely that we'll see an iTunes X with the same UI theme as Quicktime X and a written from the ground up 64bit (and 32bit) in Cocoa with an opportunity to address the UI and technical issues that adding movies into a music app have created.
They did a great job with Safari 4 for Windows. Hopefully they will do a revamp of QuickTime for Windows soon (what with the demise of QuickTime 7).
So I bet they are capable of doing a more native port to Windows. More work, sure, but better for all in the long run.
You're describing iTunes 8.3 not iTunes 9.
Will see Wednesday.
I hope I'm wrong, but with iTunes development on the Mac and Windows being parallel — I don't expect anything big from 9.Some of you are forgetting that the largest group of iTunes users are Windows users. iTunes' development is hampered because its features must remain the same across both platforms.
Will see Wednesday.
Some of you are forgetting that the largest group of iTunes users are Windows users. It's development is hampered by it's requirement for the features to remain the same between both platforms.
Microsoft hasn't been as kind to Mac users (i.e. MSN Messenger, Explorer... as a web developer, it's needed to check for cross platform support)
Apple could release their complete rework of iTunes for Mac as iTunes X and do an incremental update of the Windows version to iTunes 9.
Once Quicktime X becomes available for Windows, so would iTunes X.
- Multiple Artists Support
There remains a problem where a song has 2 (or more) artists and you must choose only one. This means that if you choose Artist A for the Artist field, the song doesn't show up in Artist B's list of songs.
Add a comma separated Artist field like in Mail's To: field. With each subsequent comma, each artist would become a bubble with their name and the song would be attributed to all the artists involved in the song.
There remains a problem where a song has 2 (or more) artists and you must choose only one. This means that if you choose Artist A for the Artist field, the song doesn't show up in Artist B's list of songs.
Add a comma separated Artist field like in Mail's To: field. With each subsequent comma, each artist would become a bubble with their name and the song would be attributed to all the artists involved in the song.
I dont see why they would name it iTunes X.. X means 10. Not 9
It doesnt mean 8 either, but that didnt stop them with QuickTime.
They use the X when they break from the current codebase to a whole new underlying product. I highly doubt iTunes 9 will be that, as it has historically come at the cost of functionality and Apple can't do that with iTunes.