What design changes would you make to the IPX?

[booksbooks]

The current iPhone X is a design disaster. I've posted this elsewhere.

• Apple had 3 choices: 1. Make the front camera and sensor array transparent and embed in the glass, thereby eliminating the notch. 2. Make the front camera and sensor array so small as to fit in the small bezel border, thereby eliminating the notch. 3. Change the design to have small bezels for the forehead and chin.

Now that I've dealt with eliminating the notch, here's what else:

• Make the screen of the X ~10% wider than the iPhone Plus. Also make it ~10% taller.
• Reduce the current bezel thickness of the iPhone X by about 20%, thereby allowing for a device that has a screen size just as wide as the current Plus, but yet is physically less wide by a factor of 10%. The device would also be significantly less tall physically with the severe reduction or elimination of bezels.
• Eliminate the camera bump: it's hideous and affects usability.
• Reduce the curvature of the corners of the X by several degrees: they are far too round and mess up the usability of the device in terms of wasting space and how content looks terrible around it.
• Eliminate the sound lock button: too many buttons.
• Eliminate the volume buttons.
• Incorporate the volume buttons into the sleep/wake button, so it's a 3-in-1 button. This will make the iPhone feel much better in the hand by all but eliminating buttons on the edges.

The size difference of the screen I suggest is a little arbitrary, but you all get the point. The idea is to create a device with very little bezel, that's totally balanced (no notch), that has a bigger screen than the Plus, but that is physically smaller than the Plus.

 

[American Pharaoh]

eyesore?
come on man.. this doesn't look good to you? it looks awesome to me tbh..

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do you actually like this better? really?


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It's a fact, symmetry and uniformity look the best to the majority of the people.

When something is not symmetric or uniform it automatically takes a hit aesthetics wise.

That is why the "notch" was viewed as a WTF in a negative light.

There is no reason why they can not and shouldn't have put a black background on the top while still keeping the notifications, sensors, cameras etc.
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I was thinking of this too. Have the “horn” area black and have the time, signal bars, WiFi, and battery indicators in a white font.

this seems like a last resort no brainer to me.
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The current iPhone X is a design disaster. I've posted this elsewhere.

• Apple had 3 choices: 1. Make the front camera and sensor array transparent and embed in the glass, thereby eliminating the notch. 2. Make the front camera and sensor array so small as to fit in the small bezel border, thereby eliminating the notch. 3. Change the design to have small bezels for the forehead and chin.

Now that I've dealt with eliminating the notch, here's what else:

• Make the screen of the X ~10% wider than the iPhone Plus. Also make it ~10% taller.
• Reduce the current bezel thickness of the iPhone X by about 20%, thereby allowing for a device that has a screen size just as wide as the current Plus, but yet is physically less wide by a factor of 10%. The device would also be significantly less tall physically with the severe reduction or elimination of bezels.
• Eliminate the camera bump: it's hideous and affects usability.
• Reduce the curvature of the corners of the X by several degrees: they are far too round and mess up the usability of the device in terms of wasting space and how content looks terrible around it.
• Eliminate the sound lock button: too many buttons.
• Eliminate the volume buttons.
• Incorporate the volume buttons into the sleep/wake button, so it's a 3-in-1 button. This will make the iPhone feel much better in the hand by all but eliminating buttons on the edges.

The size difference of the screen I suggest is a little arbitrary, but you all get the point. The idea is to create a device with very little bezel, that's totally balanced (no notch), that has a bigger screen than the Plus, but that is physically smaller than the Plus.

Not sure people want to make the X bigger.

From what I am hearing most people love the size of the X.

There are 3 main things I think need to be fixed for the next IP.

Remove the notch

Edge to edge screen

Remove camera bump

I much prefer the rounded edges over the brick looking Note.

 

[flat five]

It's a fact, symmetry and uniformity look the best to the majority of the people.

When something is not symmetric or uniform it automatically takes a hit aesthetics wise.

That is why the "notch" was viewed as a WTF in a negative light.

There is no reason why they can not and shouldn't have put a black background on the top while still keeping the notifications, sensors, cameras etc.

hey wait.. you totally dodged my questions.
; )

 

[American Pharaoh]

hey wait.. you totally dodged my questions.
; )

I for sure answered your first question.

No, the notch looks like poo.

Your second question is irrelevant due to their being more than 2 options.

 

[flat five]

I for sure answered your first question.

No, the notch looks like poo.

poo?

are you sure we're looking at the same thing?
go back to #23

re-look..

come back if still looks like poo.

 

[American Pharaoh]

poo?

are you sure we're looking at the same thing?
go back to #23

re-look..

come back if still looks like poo.

still poo

 

[magbarn]

There needs to be a X+
The current X is just too skinny. Makes portrait mode feel cramped

 

[eyeseeyou]

iPhone X tech in the iPhone 5s body style.

 

[justinTlME]

You don’t have to remove the notch, just allow developers to treat it differently. Just let them black out that one portion of the screen, if they aren’t using it for like a health bar or something etc.

Also, JUST MAKE THE PHONE WIDER!!!

 

[flat five]

still poo

lol.. ok.

(what i really think is-- you think that looks super cool but at the same time, you're not letting yourself enjoy it.. resistance)


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(meant to be taken light-heartedly as that's how i'm saying it)

 

[stlnvet]

On the software side, I'd like for them to remove the upper half darkening of the home screen. Here they have the best quality screen yet, and still they darken the top...annoying!

 

[flat five]

You don’t have to remove the notch, just allow developers to treat it differently. Just let them black out that one portion of the screen, if they aren’t using it for like a health bar or something etc.

why can't they?
you know of any app that's been rejected for trying to black out the notch?

also, i'm pretty sure, once any talented dev actually started thinking about it some, even if they didn't like the notch initially.. in the end, they're not going to just black out the notches just for the sake of blacking out the notches..

 

[justinTlME]

why can't they?
you know of any app that's been rejected for trying to black out the notch?

also, i'm pretty sure, once any talented dev actually started thinking about it some, even if they didn't like the notch initially.. in the end, they're not going to just black out the notches just for the sake of blacking out the notches..

They aren’t allowed to black out the notch only. It’s right in the rules for developing for the phone. You have to border both sides if you are going to black anything out.

 

[flat five]

They aren’t allowed to black out the notch only. It’s right in the rules for developing for the phone. You have to border both sides if you are going to black anything out.

go to the App Store.. search for an app called Notcho

it looks like this on the X:



...they quite literally did what you said they're not allowed to do.. further, the function of the app is to create wallpapers for iPhone X that disguise the notch..


those aren't rules.. they are guidelines.. big difference.


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• Make the screen of the X ~10% wider than the iPhone Plus. Also make it ~10% taller.
• Reduce the current bezel thickness of the iPhone X by about 20%, thereby allowing for a device that has a screen size just as wide as the current Plus, but yet is physically less wide by a factor of 10%. The device would also be significantly less tall physically with the severe reduction or elimination of bezels.

sorry but that doesn't make any sense.
i'm not quite convinced you know what % means because none of that works out properly.

• Incorporate the volume buttons into the sleep/wake button, so it's a 3-in-1 button.

well, 12-in-1

sleep, wake,volume up, volume down, siri, ApplePay, Assistive shortcuts, Gesture Macro, power on, emergency, hard reset, screenshot

sounds good

The size difference of the screen I suggest is a little arbitrary, but you all get the point. The idea is to create a device with very little bezel, that's totally balanced (no notch), that has a bigger screen than the Plus, but that is physically smaller than the Plus.

i made one somewhat along those lines..
the user's requirements were smallest bezels possible on an X style body while maintaining 90º corners on the display..
screen size/ratio is the same as iPhone Plus:
(the bezel is too small to accommodate a home button so this one still works pretty much like an X.. faceID/gestures/etc)

it's part of this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/alternate-x-designs-per-mr-users.2079241/

some of the stuff you're saying about the display size doesn't quite add up so i don't know exactly what you're after.. if you could clarify a little more, i'll show you what your ideal design would look like.

 

[booksbooks]

go to the App Store.. search for an app called Notcho

it looks like this on the X:

View attachment 733553

...they quite literally did what you said they're not allowed to do.. further, the function of the app is to create wallpapers for iPhone X that disguise the notch..


those aren't rules.. they are guidelines.. big difference.


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sorry but that doesn't make any sense.
i'm not quite convinced you know what % means because none of that works out properly.


well, 12-in-1

sleep, wake,volume up, volume down, siri, ApplePay, Assistive shortcuts, Gesture Macro, power on, emergency, hard reset, screenshot

sounds good




i made one somewhat along those lines..
the user's requirements were smallest bezels possible on an X style body while maintaining 90º corners on the display..
screen size/ratio is the same as iPhone Plus:
(the bezel is too small to accommodate a home button so this one still works pretty much like an X.. faceID/gestures/etc)


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it's part of this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/alternate-x-designs-per-mr-users.2079241/

some of the stuff you're saying about the display size doesn't quite add up so i don't know exactly what you're after.. if you could clarify a little more, i'll show you what your ideal design would look like.

Assume that the sensor array and front camera are transparent. Get rid of the notch, no bezels on the top or bottom.

 

[flat five]

Assume that the sensor array and front camera are transparent. Get rid of the notch, no bezels on the top or bottom.

doing that (the transparent thing) might eliminate the notch as we know it..
but it would be replaced with swiss cheese instead
: )

..if i'm understanding correctly.
you mean to cut all those individual holes for the mic/speaker/cameras/projector/etc in the OLED panel.. instead of a single cutout..
right?

also, you said something about the corners.. can the display still be rounded or are you thinking square corners for the screen?

 

[44267547]

People will get use to the notch, but it wont change the fact it make an eyesore for most.

It won't change the fact it makes the phone an "Eyesore" on a tech forum. However In the real world, plenty have upgraded and could care less about the notch, because the average iPhone consumer does not dissect every physical feature the way others do on here. It all comes down to the user experience with the new iPhone X.

 

[American Pharaoh]

go to the App Store.. search for an app called Notcho

it looks like this on the X:

View attachment 733553

...they quite literally did what you said they're not allowed to do.. further, the function of the app is to create wallpapers for iPhone X that disguise the notch..


those aren't rules.. they are guidelines.. big difference.


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sorry but that doesn't make any sense.
i'm not quite convinced you know what % means because none of that works out properly.


well, 12-in-1

sleep, wake,volume up, volume down, siri, ApplePay, Assistive shortcuts, Gesture Macro, power on, emergency, hard reset, screenshot

sounds good




i made one somewhat along those lines..
the user's requirements were smallest bezels possible on an X style body while maintaining 90º corners on the display..
screen size/ratio is the same as iPhone Plus:
(the bezel is too small to accommodate a home button so this one still works pretty much like an X.. faceID/gestures/etc)


View attachment 733567


it's part of this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/alternate-x-designs-per-mr-users.2079241/

some of the stuff you're saying about the display size doesn't quite add up so i don't know exactly what you're after.. if you could clarify a little more, i'll show you what your ideal design would look like.

That X looks soo much better without the notch.

Nice picture. Havent seen that yet.

 

[eyoungren]

However In the real world, plenty have upgraded and could care less about the notch, because the average iPhone consumer does not dissect every physical feature the way others do on here.

It's been my experience that the average Apple user (not on this forum or any other Apple/tech forum), hell the average tech user, has no friggin idea of what they have and as you said could care less.

Most of these average users drop their devices into a case and forget about the damn thing unless it malfunctions or they break it or it's time to upgrade.

Apple could save itself a lot of money year to year by just reselling the original iPhone with an occasional iOS update and none of these people would even notice. Some of them do not deserve to own the tech they buy they're so clueless and bad at it. Part of my personal time is often spent fixing fumble fingers who have no idea what they've done to screw their device up.

Apple could port Android to iPhone and these people wouldn't even know.

We are the only ones who care.

I have no respect for those who don't.

 

[BAZ1307]

I love the notch and don’t want it to go, makes the phone look unique and differentiates it from all the other full-screen phones from the front.

The one thing I would change however, is go back to LCD technology, OLED is Just not ready for use in such an expensive phone. It has far too many defects and feels unfinished compared to LCD. The white balance is totally off, the viewing angles are really bad, and they don’t last as long as LCD screens and can’t cope with stationary pixels for too long. Really upset with how poor the OLED by Samsung is, and is making me consider an ‘upgrade’ to an iPhone 8 Plus. :’(

 

[Technarchy]

Make it a 6”, 18:9 aspect ratio.

 

[DNichter]

I am fine with the things you mentioned, no issue for me. Gorgeous device.

 

[walex19]

I am fine with the things you mentioned, no issue for me. Gorgeous device.

Agreed. The phone is absolutely gorgeous the way it is! Has its own identity.

 

[quamsi]

Just like the home button was, Im quite certain the notch will be the new look or brand for the iPhone. To make it distinguishable from other brands.

The only thing I would change is to make the X a hair wider.

 

[eyedoc2020]

I would remove the ugly ass notch. I would also hope the Touch ID embedded in the screen comes to market.