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People may also notice the primary reason the hdd went to 5400 rpm is because the hdd went from a 3.5" desktop size to a 2.5" laptop size.

That + non-upgradable memory = FAIL.

I am not going to argue one way or the other, but I am genuinely curious about this. I wonder how many people, apart from a couple of thousand people that frequent forums like these, would ever considering upgrading the RAM in their iMac anyway.
 
Looks like there is going to be no student discount on iMacs either. Student website shows normally prices.

I think that it'll change once they're available for pre-order. I don't know how their site works, but maybe things that are just announced and not available for order just sit there and aren't affected by anything else. Maybe it's not in the official store database or something yet.
 
"I wish there were some reasonably priced TB audio interfaces out."

A few Thunderbolt-based audio interfaces may appear, but they probably won't be "reasonably-priced".

Instead, I imagine we'll see a whole slew of affordable (and fast) USB3 interfaces before much longer.
 
I've been waiting to buy a new imac since June.

I'm not too impressed with a couple of features/changes.

  • Lastly the video cards are terribly weak. The best card is a 660m (not even a TI)

Just my 2 cents!

Best card is 680MX Built to Order, with standard high-end 27" coming with 675MX.


Granted, that's just the 27" (which is the only one I want). But that's the only place I see you getting the 660 item from.
 
I'm amazed how many people are complaining about thinness and heat. So many haters out there. First of all, the rear bulge in this thing is still pretty fat. Just the edges are thin. Secondly, don't you think Apple has tested heat issues with this design. They certainly have had enough time to do so. Those who don't like the form shouldn't really be imac customers to begin with. No one is forcing this on anyone. Just move on if you don't like it.
 
I think that it'll change once they're available for pre-order. I don't know how their site works, but maybe things that are just announced and not available for order just sit there and aren't affected by anything else. Maybe it's not in the official store database or something yet.

I use the Education store and it shows the typical $100 off prices.
 
I'm amazed how many people are complaining about thinness and heat. So many haters out there. First of all, the rear bulge in this thing is still pretty fat. Just the edges are thin.

Agreed, I was concerned until the first profile-pics appeared from the conference. It gets quite big in the middle, though I HOPE that's aluminum back there

Secondly, don't you think Apple has tested heat issues with this design. They certainly have had enough time to do so. Those who don't like the form shouldn't really be imac customers to begin with. No one is forcing this on anyone. Just move on if you don't like it.

Well... from my understanding, past iMacs have had heat issues before. I don't mean "the 2011 high-end iMac feels too warm to the touch" but that some of the older models had issues.

Being a revision A of a new design, I'm a little concerned about the 680MX option. I really want it, but I also have to wonder if it's going to have heat issues.
 
I am not going to argue one way or the other, but I am genuinely curious about this. I wonder how many people, apart from a couple of thousand people that frequent forums like these, would ever considering upgrading the RAM in their iMac anyway.

I rarely if ever have seen a Used iMac for sale that didn't have it's Ram upgraded..... Plus why in the world would you be opposed to it? I mean if all you do is surf the web and listen to music , then you wouldn't understand anyways........
 
It sucks. It's not a desktop computer. It's just some disposable non-portable laptop thing. Sure, it will meet the needs of most computer users but it's just a waste of money in my mind. I'd rather stick with hackintoshes.
 
....Secondly, don't you think Apple has tested heat issues with this design. They certainly have had enough time to do so. Those who don't like the form shouldn't really be imac customers to begin with. No one is forcing this on anyone. Just move on if you don't like it.

You would assume that but then again you could apply your comment to previous generations where it has been an issue, along with other design issues. An example would be the screen discolouration / smudge marks from, in all probability, dust entering the LCD matrix/mesh from the rear which has been present over, at least the last three iMac revisions. Hopefully Apples new laminated screen technology may have addressed this (although I suspect not).

Don't get me wrong, this is a potentially great iMac revision and if I was in the market for one I would be genuinely excited about my prospective purchase, however don't kid yourself that Apple always take everything into consideration in their design. Each iMac has had it's issues and compromises due to design and I'll guess this one will likely have it's own.
 
Best card is 680MX Built to Order, with standard high-end 27" coming with 675MX.


Granted, that's just the 27" (which is the only one I want). But that's the only place I see you getting the 660 item from.


Ok I stand corrected all I read about yesterday was the 660m
 
That's cute, except firewire is NOT an aging technology or legacy spec. Thousands of professional businesses around the country use it, demand it and have many many items that do as well.

New Mac Book Pros have firewire ports.....
Also we still use Mac Pros from 2 years ago just because of this as well + all of the many other options....

Just because YOU think this is CURRENT technology does not mean all of our prior items that we use DAILY should now have to be Axed.......

Imagine when USB3 came out and now all of your USB2 items were done.....
Think about that......

Hey buddy, you don't have to ax all your items, just do the same thing the industry does ok? UPDATE.

Like it or not its here, no one will force you to buy it.
 
Totally agree that they are using more and more laptop parts just to squeeze everything in there and laptop parts are more prone to fail than anything.

Too bad I don't have the expertise to build myself a Hackintosh! I'd love me one and would get more of a bang for my buck!

It sucks. It's not a desktop computer. It's just some disposable non-portable laptop thing. Sure, it will meet the needs of most computer users but it's just a waste of money in my mind. I'd rather stick with hackintoshes.
 
Are you saying Adobe Creative suite will run alot better with the i7 processor instead of the i5? I started a thread asking about this but so far the responses have been telling me it's really doesn't make a difference and that i7s are only for 'curing cancer'. :confused::confused::confused:

No. I am saying that Adobe still likes to run many things single threaded. I know they are getting better but testing consistently favors the CPU's with the highest turbo ratio's. That means the i5 that can turbo to 3.9GHz is also perfectly viable. The users that tell you a processor that can execute 4 threads (i5) and one that can execute 8 (i7) are no different are not knowledgeable on the subject. They maybe don't see their iTunes going any faster but that is not the point. Their Compressor transcodes will be 40-100% faster.
 
Thin???? Confused..

Is it just me or do I see a big hump in the back where the stand meets the back of the computer? The edges are thing but the machine isn't thin cos it bulges which makes its real thickness not thin. The glass part is really thin but overall how can people say the computer is thin? It is a mini pyramid on it's side, like those old TV's when my grandma was growing up.



:confused:

Thin????
 
Who cares about thin? How often are you using it on it's side. As long as it was not 12" deep I don't care. I already have nice furniture.
 
Too bad I don't have the expertise to build myself a Hackintosh! I'd love me one and would get more of a bang for my buck!

I haven't build one but it's really easy now. Even building computer from scratch isn't hard. You just need a screwdriver and antistatic wriststrap, seriously the most difficult task is applying thermal paste to CPU. It's like a Lego or sth.
You can still pay $50 to someone to build it from your bought parts if you don't want to do it by yourself.
The most difficult thing is troubleshooting, you would have to help yourself but there is a big community out there that is very active. I have a friend and he built himself something like a Mac Pro but twice powerful and 60 percent cheaper, he has really nice case, it's quiet. He had no problems with installation or keeping the system running, only problem is bluetooth so he uses some additional dongle that works.
He still bought the cheapest 2011 Mac mini that he uses for personal stuff, when he needs to work he just flips KVM switch to do it on his hackintosh.
It's very tempting but yes, you have to be somewhat technically inclined, at least be able to google things and understand them.
If I haven't got a good deal on 2009 Mac Pro I'd be building one right now, no way I'm spending that much cash on new machines.
 
Is it just me or do I see a big hump in the back where the stand meets the back of the computer? The edges are thing but the machine isn't thin cos it bulges which makes its real thickness not thin. The glass part is really thin but overall how can people say the computer is thin? It is a mini pyramid on it's side, like those old TV's when my grandma was growing up.



:confused:

Thin????

Why post the same thing in different topics? :confused:
 
I've just read through lots of mostly negative posts. I suppose you can't please all of the people all of the time!
Me, I like the new iMac and i'll be buying one. It's lack of DVD doesn't bother me and Ivy Bridge i5 with 8GB RAM is all I need. It's a giant leap forward from my 9 yr old Windows laptop :eek:
 
Seriously underwhelmed by the 21.5" but then again I guess they're catering to mainstream consumer users and not power/pro users-that's what the 27" and Mac Pro are for.
 
This is not correct.

Fusion drive is really just an Apple-name for hybrid drives that have been around for awhile. Good - but not really new.

The Fusion Drive technology is different than the hybrid drives on the market today. The current hybrid drives cache a copy of the file or application on the flash portion of the drive for quick access. The Fusion Drive for Apple actually moves the files or application back and forth from the HDD to the Flash drive based on usage. It's a little different and of course, a lot more expensive than a basic hybrid drive.
 
The Fusion Drive technology is different than the hybrid drives on the market today. The current hybrid drives cache a copy of the file or application on the flash portion of the drive for quick access. The Fusion Drive for Apple actually moves the files or application back and forth from the HDD to the Flash drive based on usage. It's a little different and of course, a lot more expensive than a basic hybrid drive.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
What's amazing about it?
The only thing that impresses me is that Apple really cares how thin the damn edge of their DESKTOP computer can be.

It could be 6 inches thick for all I care if they just put a real graphics card in there.

Go to bed and get over it.
 
Totally love the 2012 iMac.

1998

What's the point of transparency? Who needs to see the insides? Where's my floppy drive? and so on...

2012

What's the point of thinness? Who needs a thin desktop? Where's my superdrive? And so on...

Déjà vu all over again for an innovative Apple product.
 
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