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What do you think will happen if it's a 4S?

Reach9

Reach9

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After reading this article by 9to5Mac, I realized that we might actually see an iPhone 4S.
9to5Mac has a solid background, and if the iPhone 5 is seeing production and design delays, then there's no way in hell i'm buying a 4S.

From the looks of it, they're saying the delays will push the iPhone 5 into 2012.

I currently have a very good condition iPhone 3G, and if anything, i'll sell it and buy an iPhone 3GS. I'm not being tied down into a contract for such an incremental design change.

What are your plans if the next iPhone is a 4$? If the iPhone 5 is being delayed until 2012, will it be delayed until next Fall? Or will it come out earlier next year? Do you think that this will affect Tim Cook's image as the new CEO of Apple? What do you think?
 
Reach9 said:
After reading this post by 9to5Mac, I realized that we might actually see an iPhone 4S.
9to5Mac has a solid background, and if the iPhone 5 is seeing production and design delays, then there's no way in hell i'm buying a 4S.

From the looks of it, they're saying the delays will push the iPhone 5 into 2012.

I currently have a very good condition iPhone 3G, and if anything, i'll sell it and buy an iPhone 3GS. I'm not being tied down into a contract for such an incremental design change.

What are your plans if the next iPhone is a 4$? If the iPhone 5 is being delayed until 2012, will it be delayed until next Fall? Or will it come out earlier next year? Do you think that this will affect Tim Cook's image as the new CEO of Apple? What do you think?
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Not buying 4S.. I'm good with my 4 now. If it's 5, for sure.
 
I broke my iPhone 4 a couple months ago and grabbed a Razr to stay off contract so if it is only an iPhone 4S I will shed a tear then happily line up for the new gadget.

The difference between an iP4s and iP5 release is excitement/buzz it will generate. I will buy an iPhone 5 for sure. iP4s is something I would question a little though more likely than not to buy.
 
I'll still buy it just because I want to switch back to an iPhone, so I have nothing to lose upgrading to the next iPhone rather than the iPhone 4.
 
I'll be upgrading from an enV Touch so of course I'll be upgrading. For me it will be a HUGE upgrade. One more thing who came up with the name 4S? Apple could still call it a iPhone 5 even if it is a spec bump.
 
The Game 161 said:
depends what it has

why wouldn;t you upgrade if the screen is bigger and A5 chip
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I highly doubt the screen size is going to increase if it's just an iPhone 4S. I also hate the iPhone 4 design.

I also believe that we can't blame Apple for the lack of an iPhone 5, if the delays are genuine. Does this mean that we'll see a 5 in a few months? Or will Apple keep that design for next year's LTE iPhone launch?

But yes, for some people, it'll be one hell of an upgrade.
 
Reach9 said:
I highly doubt the screen size is going to increase if it's just an iPhone 4S. I also hate the iPhone 4 design.

I also believe that we can't blame Apple for the lack of an iPhone 5, if the delays are genuine. Does this mean that we'll see a 5 in a few months? Or will Apple keep that design for next year's LTE iPhone launch?

But yes, for some people, it'll be one hell of an upgrade.
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I would rather them hold the redesign for the LTE iPhone.
 
Any chance we might see a "boo!" moment in the audience if only the 4S is released?

I know I would if i were there.
 
I don't think we'll see a "Boo" moment, because the entire presentation will be a letdown, not just a single moment.

I think if Apple releases the 4S phone, we still won't see a true update until next fall. There are many people still buying the current iPhone 4 each day, even with the next phone coming soon. It doesn't make any difference to most consumers unless they currently have an iPhone 4.
 
I think a lot of the people (even here) will complain about it, then go buy it and tell everyone how much they love it. Happens every year. There may be a bit of a drop in market share but probably nothing major. Lots of people are stuck on contracts for another year and would just keep their iPhone 4.
 
rockyroad55 said:
If people buy the 4S, they better push early upgrades for people wanting to get the 5.
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WHY!! Carriers don't do this when the latest and greatest Android phone comes out every few months. If a new iPhone comes out and you are not eligible for a full discount then you pay full price or early upgrade price.
 
I'll definitely be a bit disappointed, but only for my wife who is using a 3GS and waiting on the next model.

I personally have no plans on upgrading, regardless of whether it is an incremental hardware upgrade or total redesign as my iPhone 4 does everything I need of it and is still more than quick enough (and was just swapped out on Applecare for a finicky home button so it's almost brand new). The only new feature that peaks my interest is LTE and as I'm on AT&T and staying with AT&T (I get great coverage and speed where I live), I don't expect to see that included on an iPhone until 2012 at the earliest.

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rockyroad55 said:
If people buy the 4S, they better push early upgrades for people wanting to get the 5.
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edk99 said:
WHY!! Carriers don't do this when the latest and greatest Android phone comes out every few months. If a new iPhone comes out and you are not eligible for a full discount then you pay full price or early upgrade price.
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I agree with edk99. Here's a thought--if you don't think the 4S is enough of a redesign to suit your needs, don't upgrade and save it for the next model. If you just can't live without the newest Apple toy, go ahead and upgrade but don't bitch when you can't 9 months (or 12, whatever it happens to be until next model) from now.
 
boss.king said:
I think a lot of the people (even here) will complain about it, then go buy it and tell everyone how much they love it. Happens every year. There may be a bit of a drop in market share but probably nothing major. Lots of people are stuck on contracts for another year and would just keep their iPhone 4.
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That will be me I'll b!tch about it, but I'll buy one just cause I can upgrade every year.
 
I will definitely be very disappointed since I sold my iPhone 4 months ago just for the iPhone 5. If Apple doesn't release crap my money will go on a galaxy Note for sure.
 
<-- not buying a 4S

edit: If it was the only thing coming out this year then MAYBE, depending on specs. On the other hand the iphone5 is a sure buy no matter the specs lol
 
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tbayrgs said:
I agree with edk99. Here's a thought--if you don't think the 4S is enough of a redesign to suit your needs, ...
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...feel free to purchase any number of Android based phones that would.

At least that will be the thinking from a large number of consumers. As it is, cell phone sales people do what they can to dissuade buyers from getting the iPhone. Just think of how much easier it would be to encourage Android if the latest iPhone is still using the same 1.5+ year old design.
 
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I'd buy a 4s for the larger 8mp camera & 1080P video. As a photographer who uses the Nikon D3 and D700 bodies, i like the iPhone's camera very much for what it can do. So yeah.....I'll buy a 4s especially if AT&T allows me to upgrade to a new phone every year!

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Reach9 said:
Any chance we might see a "boo!" moment in the audience if only the 4S is released?

I know I would if i were there.
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Yes I do believe there will be a "boo!" moment.

For 4 years, there has been a pattern. This year, they choose to deviate from it. To many, including myself, this long of a delay should result in a significant upgrade (bigger screen, etc.. and not just ios 5). If it doesn't, Apple's ripe for criticism. Also, whether or not you like Android, some of the new Android phones are gaining in popularity. This could adversely affect their phone marketshare. For those that say Apple is not into marketshare but into margins, that used to be the case with macs. However, they have always touted the marketshare of iPods and iPhones. What does this mean for future releases? Being their flagship device, how they handle the iPhone is very important. Even though they are the biggest company (market capitalization), they are not untouchable.

Even though all of this was probably decided under Jobs' leadership, it could be negative publicity for Tim Cook.

Of course, at this point, we don't know what the upgrade could be or when the new iPhone will be released. So, all of this could just be moot. They very well could release a significant upgrade.

Also, the millions of Apple fanbois could very well just buy anything Apple releases, even if there is little improvements; meaning Apple's share price could just keep escalating. We'll see...
 
boss.king said:
I think a lot of the people (even here) will complain about it, then go buy it and tell everyone how much they love it. Happens every year. There may be a bit of a drop in market share but probably nothing major. Lots of people are stuck on contracts for another year and would just keep their iPhone 4.
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Agreed.
Fortunately, again, I won't be one of them.
 
I'm saying if they release the 5 shortly after the 4S and don't tell people about the 5, then a lot of people are going to be pretty pissed.
 
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