What hardware are you running?

[leifp]

Thanks for the mention


I have the base M4 Max Studio and crossover works well enough for most of the games.

A good for instance would be Bethesda's Starfield, which has a high GPU requirement (higher then prior Bethesda games). On my PC, I was easily getting 60 FPS with the 7800XT with high without any frame generation. In Crossover with my M4 Max, I'm getting mid 50s with the details set to low and upscaling/frame generation. Boosting the image quality to high, the FPS drops to low 30s.

The M5's GPU performance is supposed to be significantly better then the M4, so I would expect better results. I'm largely pleased with gaming on my M4, but it is noticeably slower then running it natively on my PC, even with the M4 having superior numbers in the benchmarks.

Obviously native macos gaming, provides excellent results, such as Cyberpunk.

I don't play any games with anti-cheat, so that's something I cannot comment.

Another option is GeforceNow, my experience playing that is that you "can" get better results then crossover, but by and large its inconsistant performance. Regardless of your internet bandwidth, you can expect a fair amount of lagginess and stutters. I was using GFN for a little while, but it just wasn't worth the cost.

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For reference, I have an RX 5800X and RTX4070 on my gaming rig. Crossover, in particular, is of interest to me as it chokes a fair bit on my M1Max. I do not play net games, certainly none that require anti-cheat tech to keep players honest. My problem (ironically?) has been playing older games. And lesser lights (AA and indies). I will probably always have a gaming PC at home but I travel a fair bit and won’t be doing so with something other than a Mac.

 

[maflynn]

in particular, is of interest to me as it chokes a fair bit on my M1Max.

I think the improvements with the M4, have produced a better gaming experience with crossover, and I fully expect the M5 to be even better. Is the M4 Max on par with the RTX 4070? Probably in many situations, but not if you're playing through Crossover.

For me, the M4 Max provides what I want and need, and allows me to just focus on one computer. It gives me all of the upsides of Macs, and none of the downsides of windows.

 

[QuarterSwede]

M4 mini for what will run on it.

Currently going through Unreal Gold since it was ported to AS. Freaking blast and bringing back a lot of good memories. Still looks great (I LOVED Glide back then) and wow it’s fun at 300Hz with their XOpenGLDrv driver. Looks almost exactly the same.

I have a Debian server mini PC that I also have Steam on for non-Mac games. Currently playing Octopath Traveler. Doesn’t run well at all in Crossover yet.

I think I enjoy the process of getting things running more than playing games sometimes. I don’t have much time for gaming these days and I certainly can’t stomach paying $500 and north for a single use console. Just isn’t something I’m interested in spending my money on when I have a lot of projects I’m interested in (3D printing crack anyone?). Multi-use? heck yeah, that’s my bag.

 

[maflynn]

Just an aside, but Crossover 26 is now out, with improvements, including higher compatibility.

 

[Plutonius]

For reference, I have an RX 5800X and RTX4070 on my gaming rig. Crossover, in particular, is of interest to me as it chokes a fair bit on my M1Max. I do not play net games, certainly none that require anti-cheat tech to keep players honest. My problem (ironically?) has been playing older games. And lesser lights (AA and indies). I will probably always have a gaming PC at home but I travel a fair bit and won’t be doing so with something other than a Mac.

Crossover doesn't do as well on 32 bit games.

 

[keksikuningas]

Just an aside, but Crossover 26 is now out, with improvements, including higher compatibility.

they mention in their emails about 32 bit bottle support being dropped. Do I understand correctly that 32 bit windows games wont be able to be run starting from crossover 27?

 

[throAU]

all of the above

 

[leifp]

Crossover doesn't do as well on 32 bit games.

And Crossover 26 removes 32 bit support, although I don’t know if that’s for launchers (Steam) or games on launchers or straight up all things 32 bit. And that’s a death knell for me. The main games I’m trying to get operational on my Mac are actually games that originally worked on Mac but are 32 bit and now dead. Guess I’ll have to go the Parallels route, which I wanted to avoid at all cost(s). Sigh

 

[salamanderjuice]

And Crossover 26 removes 32 bit support, although I don’t know if that’s for launchers (Steam) or games on launchers or straight up all things 32 bit. And that’s a death knell for me. The main games I’m trying to get operational on my Mac are actually games that originally worked on Mac but are 32 bit and now dead. Guess I’ll have to go the Parallels route, which I wanted to avoid at all cost(s). Sigh

If it's like Wine 11 on which it's based, it doesn't remove 32bit support, but they removed 32 bit bottles. You can still run 32 bit apps on 64 bit OSs just fine on Wine 11 and I'm pretty sure it's the same on Crossover.

 

[maflynn]

And Crossover 26 removes 32 bit support, although I don’t know if that’s for launchers (Steam) or games on launchers or straight up all things 32 bit. And that’s a death knell for me. The main games I’m trying to get operational on my Mac are actually games that originally worked on Mac but are 32 bit and now dead. Guess I’ll have to go the Parallels route, which I wanted to avoid at all cost(s). Sigh

I believe the removal is for 32bit bottles, but if you have 32 bit games in your steam library they still will play. I'll have to see if I have any 32 bit games, and play them in Crossover 25, and then upgrade. I'm not ready to upgrade to Crossover 26 quite yet as I want to take some benchmarks on games I do play and compare them to the newer version

 

[leifp]

I believe the removal is for 32bit bottles, but if you have 32 bit games in your steam library they still will play. I'll have to see if I have any 32 bit games, and play them in Crossover 25, and then upgrade. I'm not ready to upgrade to Crossover 26 quite yet as I want to take some benchmarks on games I do play and compare them to the newer version

Absolutely interested in your results!

 

[Wyvernspirit]

Announcing CrossOver 26.0.0 | Announcements | Community Forums | CrossOver Support | CodeWeavers

Announcing CrossOver 26.0.0

www.codeweavers.com

Per article: Lastly, we are planning to remove 32-bit bottles from CrossOver 27. In anticipation of this change, 32-bit bottle creation is now disabled by default. If you have a favorite application that does not install into or run in a 64-bit bottle, please let us know. You can go into the Settings menu to reenable 32-bit bottles if needed in CrossOver 26, but this option will be removed in 27.

This means version 26 still can do 32 bit bottles, just enable it. If what you are using runs fine in 26 when 27 comes out just keep using 26. Also let them know if you have a problem with lack of a 32 bit bottle. The 32 bit game may run under a 64 bit bottle, give it a shot.

 

[maflynn]

This means version 26 still can do 32 bit bottles, just enable it.

I installed version 26, didn't do anything different, and ran Commander Keen - a 35 year old 16 bit dos game and it ran fine. I don't know what 32 bit bottles gives you, but it seems games still run fine regardless of the bottle type - at least in my very limited testing

 

[Luftkopf]

I installed version 26, didn't do anything different, and ran Commander Keen - a 35 year old 16 bit dos game and it ran fine. I don't know what 32 bit bottles gives you, but it seems games still run fine regardless of the bottle type - at least in my very limited testing

Hah! Commander Keen! Now I’m all nostalgic.

Commmander Keen, Lemmings, Monkey Island, Space Quest, Kings Quest… I had a lot of fun back then!

 

[leifp]

Hah! Commander Keen! Now I’m all nostalgic.

Commmander Keen, Lemmings, Monkey Island, Space Quest, Kings Quest… I had a lot of fun back then!

Never got into Monkey Island but a friend had an Amiga with Lemmings and my god that was mind blowing. In particular once the PC port arrived and was barely a shadow of its former self.

The entire Quest series (well, Police Quest wasn’t my favourite; I was probably too young) were drivers of PC desire. Space Quest in particular.

 

[Luftkopf]

Never got into Monkey Island but a friend had an Amiga with Lemmings and my god that was mind blowing. In particular once the PC port arrived and was barely a shadow of its former self.

The entire Quest series (well, Police Quest wasn’t my favourite; I was probably too young) were drivers of PC desire. Space Quest in particular.

Amigas were something else back in the day, weren't they! I always loved visiting one friend when I got to use his Amiga 500 to play Dizzy Island, Marble Madness, and whatever else I could get my hands on.

 

[Shelly74]

I’ve been wrestling with whether this configuration equivalent from the M5 generation will be enough for me… it’s a really convenient setup: drop in replacement when I want it.

How do you game on it? Steam for Mac, Crossover, Parallels?

I use Steam for Mac and Crossover.

 

[maflynn]

Amigas were something else back in the day,

I was in the audience when the Amiga was introduced during the Boston Computer Society. and it blew me away. This computer was unlike anything else and so far ahead of its time

 

[Luftkopf]

I was in the audience when the Amiga was introduced during the Boston Computer Society. and it blew me away. This computer was unlike anything else and so far ahead of its time

Wow, that's an awesome memory to have!

 

[Wyvernspirit]

I’ve been wrestling with whether this configuration equivalent from the M5 generation will be enough for me… it’s a really convenient setup: drop in replacement when I want it.

How do you game on it? Steam for Mac, Crossover, Parallels?

I basically Have Steam installed twice on my Macs. One Mac version for games that have a Mac option, and I have a Win version installed in a bottle in crossover for win only or games that had mac options but no longer suported (32 bit). My Mac Library is bigger than my WIN only library but mostly becasue I choose to buy games that give a Mac option unless I really want it.

 

[Pezimak]

M3 Max 14" MacBook Pro
Last version of the OG fat PS5
Lenovo Legion Go 2 Z2E

Those are my current systems.

 

[maflynn]

I changed my vote, at least for the time being. I've been running CachyOS on my PC since February and its breathed new life into the machine, plus I don't have the Microsoft stuff that I seemingly been fighting.

My PC's configuration is AMD 3700x cpu, with 64 GB of ram, and for the GPU a AMD RX 7800XT. The CPU may be a little long in the tooth, but the cost of upgrading to current was the reason why I bought the M4 Studio Max in the first place.

Gaming on Linux is on par with Windows, and significantly faster then on my M4 Max, when playing Crossover

 

[Heat_Fan89]

DIY PC:

NZXT H7 Flow Case
Thermaltake AIO
9800X3D
64GB AMD Expo CL30-36-36-76
Dual Gen 4 2TB Sticks
RTX 5080
Windows 11 Pro

 

[diamond.g]

I changed my vote, at least for the time being. I've been running CachyOS on my PC since February and its breathed new life into the machine, plus I don't have the Microsoft stuff that I seemingly been fighting.

My PC's configuration is AMD 3700x cpu, with 64 GB of ram, and for the GPU a AMD RX 7800XT. The CPU may be a little long in the tooth, but the cost of upgrading to current was the reason why I bought the M4 Studio Max in the first place.

Gaming on Linux is on par with Windows, and significantly faster then on my M4 Max, when playing Crossover

Your PC hardware is basically a PS5 Pro!!

 

[jerryjohnson]

MacBook Air M4 ：
Processor
8-core CPU
10-core GPU
16-core Neural Engine

Memory (RAM)
16GB

Storage
512GB SSD
Can basically handle the job