Amethyst1
macrumors G3
I don’t think SL was ever available via Internet Recovery. The 2010 MBA came with a nifty lil’ USB drive.
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TheShortTimer
macrumors 68040
That explains why I couldn't download it.
Yes, with a version of SL that's more recent than the retail disc. As you know, I managed to create a compatible installer after some effort. 🙂
wicknix
macrumors 68030
Odd. My freshly installed 10.6 on my 06 mini youtube works fine in both. Try setting a mobile user agent string for youtube.com. If that doesn't do it grab tensixtube from the garden. If that doesn't work there is an odd underlying cause in your machine.
originaldotexe
macrumors 6502
i got a similar error telling me that my disk is almost full on my macpro4,1 running ventura the other day, even though i had about 70GB free on boot. i havent seen the error since though, even though i have less space free now
VirtuallyInsane
macrumors 6502
Oh no, the RAM slots. Installing RAM incorrectly sounds like a pain. I put 1GB in my MBP 06 and it made it run faster, taking the total up to 2GB. 120GB SSD in there too. It was smooth for a while before it started to have issues.
That's weird. On Interweb, I put content blocker addons (uBlock Origin and AdBlocker) when my MBP '06 15inch was working, and on my MBP '09 17inch (both on Snow Leopard, had to use a restore of the SL '06 Harddrive to get the '09 one up and going again) and 480p loaded fine on the MBP 06, and the MBP 09 can play 720p fine with the addons.
I think that it's all the modern content not letting the older browsers through, but for me, the content blockers are allowing me to bypass that and watch videos on YouTube.
Had some "fun" with Bootcamp recently. For some reason, I thought it would be fun to see how Windows 10 performs on my 2012 MBP. I initially thought Mojave's bootcamp wasn't working because when I tried making a bootable USB the progress bar would move halfway and then just stay there and not move. I even bought a Windows 7 DVD, with the intention of upgrading to Windows 10 from there, thinking maybe bootcamp would work better with a DVD installer instead of trying to make a bootable USB. After all that, it turned out that Mojave's bootcamp can indeed make a bootable Windows 10 USB it's just terrible with showing you the progress. The only way I knew that it was actually copying data to the USB stick was through the Disk tab in Activity Monitor. After about an hour I had a bootable USB with Bootcamp support software. Installation went well and Windows 10 runs okay, but it feels so bloated compared to Mojave. The more I used Windows 10 the more I remembered why I dislike it. Updates would get stuck, the UI is kind of crap and trying to do right click on a MBP trackpad is cumbersome. What Windows 10 does still have going for it though is that it still gets updates unlike Mojave. It annoys me that Windows 10 gets updates, but Mojave doesn't. It is the only officially supported OS that still gets updates. While I did say previously that I felt fine browsing on Mojave, there are certain sites (example: Turbo Tax) that I don't feel comfortable using on an abandoned OS version and thus would rather visit on an up to date OS. With unsupported OSes like Monterey and Ubuntu having Wi-Fi issues this means that my only option for a supported and still updated OS is Windows 10. The idea of having to rely on Windows 10 for anything fills me with dread. So, I gave in and bought an M2 Mac Mini. I'm still keeping my 2012 MBP, I've wanted one for too long and enjoy using it too much to ever get rid of it, but it is no longer my daily driver.
On a more upbeat note, I used my Windows 7 DVD on my early 2009 Mac Mini. Because it's the 64-bit edition, I used Disk Utility to partition the drive and after installation was complete I ran the Bootcamp support software from the Snow Leopard DVD. Everything works except the volume control and eject buttons on my Apple Pro Keyboard. I love Windows 7, it is way better than Windows 10 in every way. 7 was the last Windows version I actually loved. It was so nostalgic to hear that Window 7 startup sound again. Performance isn't too far off from the 2011 i3 Toshiba Satellite laptop I used to run Windows 7 on (my daily driver from 2011 to 2017). While I did envy those who had unibody MBPs back during my Windows 7 days, I can't say I was ever unhappy with Windows 7. Haven't activated 7 yet, because I'm debating whether to keep it on the Mini or repartition the 2012 MBP and put it on there. Not sure what I will actually do with Windows 7 in 2023, but it's a nice nostalgia trip at least.
On a more upbeat note, I used my Windows 7 DVD on my early 2009 Mac Mini. Because it's the 64-bit edition, I used Disk Utility to partition the drive and after installation was complete I ran the Bootcamp support software from the Snow Leopard DVD. Everything works except the volume control and eject buttons on my Apple Pro Keyboard. I love Windows 7, it is way better than Windows 10 in every way. 7 was the last Windows version I actually loved. It was so nostalgic to hear that Window 7 startup sound again. Performance isn't too far off from the 2011 i3 Toshiba Satellite laptop I used to run Windows 7 on (my daily driver from 2011 to 2017). While I did envy those who had unibody MBPs back during my Windows 7 days, I can't say I was ever unhappy with Windows 7. Haven't activated 7 yet, because I'm debating whether to keep it on the Mini or repartition the 2012 MBP and put it on there. Not sure what I will actually do with Windows 7 in 2023, but it's a nice nostalgia trip at least.
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originaldotexe
macrumors 6502
working on packet tracer labs for school (macpro4,1 ventura)
originaldotexe
macrumors 6502
i have q9100 and 16gb ram in an old dell precision m6400 laptop. i had snow leopard on it for a while, makes a pretty cool hackintosh
eyoungren
macrumors Nehalem
Fixed a flyer for my wife. Had the wrong address.
Took about 15 mins, not perfect, but good enough for this.
2009 MacPro, Adobe InDesign CC21, Illustrator CC21 (for the Vitalant logo), Photoshop CS2 (scanned in the image from one of the two SL only Minis in the garage), Photoshop CC21 (cropping and prep work for vectorizing), and Vector Magic to make the lightbulb in the bottom left and the QR code vector.
Took about 15 mins, not perfect, but good enough for this.
2009 MacPro, Adobe InDesign CC21, Illustrator CC21 (for the Vitalant logo), Photoshop CS2 (scanned in the image from one of the two SL only Minis in the garage), Photoshop CC21 (cropping and prep work for vectorizing), and Vector Magic to make the lightbulb in the bottom left and the QR code vector.
VirtuallyInsane
macrumors 6502
Well, I messed around with a few things and I managed to get Reason 6 running on the MBP '09:
And now I am just playing around with it. I forgot how primitive it was compared to the new version of Reason, but it's still adequate enough to make basic beats, and preview some of the old demo songs on it:
I got Reaper downloaded too, but it will take a while to figure that out, since I'm not used to it.
And now I am just playing around with it. I forgot how primitive it was compared to the new version of Reason, but it's still adequate enough to make basic beats, and preview some of the old demo songs on it:
I got Reaper downloaded too, but it will take a while to figure that out, since I'm not used to it.
Heindijs
macrumors 6502a
Bought a late 2009 Mac mini for a couple of tenners. The guy put it up online just 5 minutes before I checked and within 10 minutes we made a deal 🙂 Now I'll just have to wait till it arrives since he lived just a little too far to cycle to.
I don't know exactly what I'll do with it yet, but I think I'm going to messing around with Snow Leopard again. Or just put Mojave or Catalina on it and use it as a spare computer for another room.
I don't know exactly what I'll do with it yet, but I think I'm going to messing around with Snow Leopard again. Or just put Mojave or Catalina on it and use it as a spare computer for another room.
rampancy
macrumors 6502a
My previous SOP for running browsers like AF, IW and WS/PM up until now has been to install FoxPEP, uBlock Origin, and SteveJobzniak's Disable YouTube 60 FPS userscript through Greasemonkey. Admittedly, I haven't tested it that much lately since I moved to 10.11 on my MacBook Pro 3,1 and later 10.15 on my iMac. I wonder if it's FoxPEP causing the problems.
mectojic
macrumors 65816
They're nice machines, really aesthetic too. I love using mine as a silent Snow Leopard box with SSD. It's nice to know it's there if I need a spare computer.
Amethyst1
macrumors G3
theMarble
macrumors 65816
What size screen is it? Looks like either a 4:3 or 5:4 panel to me.
Amethyst1
macrumors G3
VirtuallyInsane
macrumors 6502
So, I ended up not getting the Early 2009 Macbook 13 inch, and I got an Early 2008 13 inch instead, and so far, I prefer the iBook over it. Yes, the specs are alright, but it's stuck on Lion. (Yeah, I did get it pretty cheap but still, I paid less for it than I did for the iBook).
I threw Interwebs on it and it's working well. I put dark mode on it cause the screen on this is harder to read than on my iBook G4 cause it's less bright. But it has the widescreen, versus the 4:3 aspect ratio, which I don't mind either.
Video playback is alright too, but it's better on the iBook G4. It doesn't even stutter and it has less RAM. Maybe it's better optimized there for older videos.
It has black bars on the side, but that's alright.
This is it in the miniplayer vs fullscreen.
And I prefer typing on the iBook over these keys, but it's still alright.
I also put OpenOffice on it this time and it runs fine. Wanted to try it out.
So does this old program called StoryO that I found online for novel writing.
I guess that I need a bit more time with this to determine for sure if it's good. I am just tinkering around on it tonight and trying it out, and it's fine for doing light stuff on. I'm trying out Lion also for the first time, and I prefer SL to it. It feels more responsive and has less crap on it. Less things to search, more simple.
I threw Interwebs on it and it's working well. I put dark mode on it cause the screen on this is harder to read than on my iBook G4 cause it's less bright. But it has the widescreen, versus the 4:3 aspect ratio, which I don't mind either.
Video playback is alright too, but it's better on the iBook G4. It doesn't even stutter and it has less RAM. Maybe it's better optimized there for older videos.
It has black bars on the side, but that's alright.
This is it in the miniplayer vs fullscreen.
And I prefer typing on the iBook over these keys, but it's still alright.
I also put OpenOffice on it this time and it runs fine. Wanted to try it out.
So does this old program called StoryO that I found online for novel writing.
I guess that I need a bit more time with this to determine for sure if it's good. I am just tinkering around on it tonight and trying it out, and it's fine for doing light stuff on. I'm trying out Lion also for the first time, and I prefer SL to it. It feels more responsive and has less crap on it. Less things to search, more simple.
wicknix
macrumors 68030
Lion's not so bad. I actually like it, and run it on a few devices. If you don't need the legacy powerpc software that'll run in snow leopard, lion gives you much better browser support and a better development environment.
Chromium Legacy: Current chrome back ported and updated quite often. Good for those "chrome only" sites.
Pale Moon: Just reinstated Mac support. Great general use browser.
Chromium Legacy: Current chrome back ported and updated quite often. Good for those "chrome only" sites.
Pale Moon: Just reinstated Mac support. Great general use browser.
rampancy
macrumors 6502a
I keep saying this a lot lately: If you don't like Lion but still want better web browser support, put Linux on your MacBook (either via dual-booting or as the sole OS). IMHO the biggest difference between the 2008 MacBooks and 2006-7 MacBooks is the presence of a 64-bit EFI, making installing most modern distros very easy. For something lean and mean, Zorin OS 16.2 Lite is my favorite, but Xubuntu, and Lubuntu are also good too. (One of these days I'd like to also try Peppermint or mxLinux on one of my 2008 MacBooks.)
With the RAM maxed out, an SSD and a working battery, this generation of MacBooks can still work very, very well for most general web tasks. I tried daily driving such a setup for a few months, and I was very pleased with the experience. Even Zoom video chats worked on a 2.4 Ghz machine.
If you don't want to go down that route, Chromium Legacy, Pale Moon and @wicknix's own InterWeb are great browsers for general use on Lion.
theMarble
macrumors 65816
You can run Mountain Lion on it with NPF, not sure how much faster/slower it would be.
Heindijs
macrumors 6502a
Nice to know that they're silent.
That's the reason why I use my 2012 Mini as my main computer. Yeah I have more powerful systems, but they all have noisy fans. My Mini is just dead silent 95% of the time.
Amethyst1
macrumors G3
IME there’s little, if any difference in performance and any Mac that runs Lion can unofficially run ML. So I’d always go for that. (Disclaimer: I don’t like Lion.)
VirtuallyInsane
macrumors 6502
I am gonna play around some more on Lion, and experiment and see what else I can download. But I still prefer SL, maybe because it's running well on all the machines that I put it on. Yeah, the support's not amazing, but I can find old versions of most of the files that I need/want. It's amazing on the MBP '09 (probably cause of the RAM but still, it was good on the MBP '06 as well as the last supported version for that system).
I probably will add on the Chromium Legacy for the Chrome Only sites, thanks for suggesting this.
Maybe when I get fed up with Lion, I'll do some experimenting on my MacBook. I didn't know that the 2008 MacBooks had 64 bit support. I thought it was only the later Pros, for some reason. Linux seemss easy enough to install, if we're going by the YouTube videos and it would be fun to mess around on that.
Yeah, I had a battery that I slipped into this thing, but I don't know if I want to be bothered maxing out the RAM and putting an SSD in it at this moment in time. If the worst comes to the worst, I can always take the one out of my MBP and run SL on it again, with all the files copied across. Or just boot it from the external enclosure, but it's good to know that it still works to this day well enough to be a Daily Driver.
I am using Interwebs at the moment and it's smooth. I'm also gonna add on Chromium Legacy for "Chrome Only" sites as well, like Wick said.
Yeah, I don't wanna take that risk right now but thanks anyway 😛 When I got my MBP 09, it was awful on El Capitan and I could not wait to get rid of it, lol. My old iMacs in the music department I studied at were awful as well on El C, but they needed updated. I just ended up on my own MBA running Sierra for the last year of my course. It worked well back then. Did what I needed it to do.
Heindijs
macrumors 6502a
Got my 2009 Mini in the mail today. The guy advertised it as coming with a keyboard but he thought it was a bootleg one. So I told him to forget the keyboard and just send the Mini as I didn't want to have to throw it out myself.
He did send the keyboard with it and I'm glad he did because it's a legit full sized Apple usb keyboard! (visible on the left)
After digging around for some sticks of ddr3 ram and a spare ssd, it's up and running. Taking it apart makes me appreciate the 2012 mini even more. No needing to pry it open to replace the ram on that one. 😛
EDIT: It's all set up (for now)
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TheShortTimer
macrumors 68040
After mentioning to a fellow member of a film/TV archival and preservation community my admiration for the work of Hitchcock, they sent me a sample of a 35mm print scan and restoration project that they're working on - which I watched with the help of my 13" 2011 i5 MacBook Pro and the ever reliable VLC.
This is pre-restoration, which will involve a clean up of print damage and colour correction. As you can see from the title shot, it's a German print so they very helpfully synced the original English language audio track. I look forward to watching the final version. 🙂
(Yes, the film is available on home video but there are technical aspects of this particular print which were felt deserving of preservation so that it can be enjoyed as an addition to what's commercially available.)
This is pre-restoration, which will involve a clean up of print damage and colour correction. As you can see from the title shot, it's a German print so they very helpfully synced the original English language audio track. I look forward to watching the final version. 🙂
(Yes, the film is available on home video but there are technical aspects of this particular print which were felt deserving of preservation so that it can be enjoyed as an addition to what's commercially available.)
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