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What if Apple does not release a new MBP at WWDC in June?

What will you do if you need to replace your MBP but Apple is not releasing a new one at WWDC?

  • Continue to wait

    Votes: 185 47.6%

  • Just buy what they have right now even the keyboard has issue and they are one year old machines

    Votes: 49 12.6%

  • Go for a Windows laptop

    Votes: 75 19.3%

  • Turn to Hackintosh

    Votes: 11 2.8%

  • Others

    Votes: 9 2.3%

  • Others

    Votes: 4 1.0%

  • Go to a temple and become a monk for a year. Then, come back and check.

    Votes: 56 14.4%
  • Total voters
    389
smallcoffee said:
I like that Razer laptop too... just can't stomach going away from macOS. (not that I dislike the new MacBook Pros, though).
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I work on and I support windows, and there are definitely things windows does better. I prefer macOS to be sure, but I can live within windows.
 
PhoneI said:
like what?
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Configuration/customization. I have an incredible amount of flexilbity in configuring windows, even going as far easily theming if I so choose.
Support of peripherals, I can easily get drivers and applications for my printers and scanners. For macOS, Epson told me to use ImageCapture but their windows app is more robust then image capture.
DirectX - playing games (if that's your thing).
File management - I find the file explorer to be more feature rich and easier to use then the Find
 
I'm gonna be sad cuz I really wanna upgrade my current MBP. Having said that, I can wait till the end of the year if they at least announce native eGPU support across both MacOS and Windows Bootcamp with simple plug and play functionality for both AMD and Nvidia on all the most used programs. (games, FCPX, Premiere Pro, stuff like that) Allowing me to use the eGPU for streaming in OBS in MacOS would be a bonus.

That new Asus Zenbook Pro looks mighty tempting tho, more every day.
 
maflynn said:
Configuration/customization. I have an incredible amount of flexilbity in configuring windows, even going as far easily theming if I so choose.
Support of peripherals, I can easily get drivers and applications for my printers and scanners. For macOS, Epson told me to use ImageCapture but their windows app is more robust then image capture.
DirectX - playing games (if that's your thing).
File management - I find the file explorer to be more feature rich and easier to use then the Find
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You find file explorer Find to be superior than Spotlight?
 
I think Apple is trying to create some kind of orgasm-like expectations among users. Apple is trying to make us want more and more by not giving us enough what we want and delaying an delaying.
 
maflynn said:
Configuration/customization.
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You must be jesting. Configuration in Windows is a total mess. You have multiple menus and tools for most settings, all of them in different UI styles and all of them offering different options. Error reporting and diagnostics are practically non-existent. Its a massive PITA to configure and manage (its part of my day job, so I talk from experience). Already something as trivial as setting up a printer can be infuriating (ever tried installing five printers of the same type but in different locations on a single computer and then trying to make sense which printer is which? try it, its much fun).

Windows strength in here is wider hardware support (but that also lives and dies by the quality of the third-party driver) and yes, visual customisation, if you are into that kind of thing. MacOS on the other hand is fully scriptable and is much easier to set up for automated workflows.

maflynn said:
File management - I find the file explorer to be more feature rich and easier to use then the Find
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Yeah, that is also something I keep hearing and something I can't really understand. Explorer, with its bloated UI is supposed to be better then Finder? Its a different style of file management for sure, so that might be part of a problem, but I've always found Finder more convenient and also more functional. Not to mention that Windows folder structure, with weird virtual folders and aliases is deeply confusing. QuickLook, search, smart folders and tags are what makes macOS file management superior — if you know how to take advantage of it.
 
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rexlampard88 said:
Continue to wait, I have a 2012 rMbp its running perfectly but I want to upgrade to 16gb ram.
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I'm just about ready to move on.

There's so many latops with Intel's 8 generation hexcore processors, and some really beefy GPUs, nothing that we'd see Apple use, like the nvidia 1060, 1070, or even the 1080. I think its to Apple's detriment to be late once again. The only hope I have is they're taking this time to revamp the keyboard, but at this point it may be too little too late for me.
 
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maflynn said:
I'm just about ready to move on.

There's so many latops with Intel's 8 generation hexcore processors, and some really beefy GPUs, nothing that we'd see Apple use, like the nvidia 1060, 1070, or even the 1080. I think its to Apple's detriment to be late once again. The only hope I have is they're taking this time to revamp the keyboard, but at this point it may be too little too late for me.
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Well we have yet to see mobile vega gpus these should rival the Nvidia offerings. The vega 64 is the 6th fastest gpu on the market beaten only by the 1080 and three variants of the 1080 and the Titan.

As to waiting a few months I would much rather they took their time and released a great product myself, patience is a virtue after all.
 
hajime said:
I have been using Apple's products since the Apple II. I grew up with Apple. Without people like me, Apple would not have been a big company. Of all these years, I have only returned one computer which I consider to be rubbish and toy-like. I guess it is a fair game. If they make excellent products, people will not return them. They made a return policy and they expect that some people will return them. It is part of the marketing strategy. As some people mentioned in this forum, if there were no such policy, they would have hesitated to try out the products and Apple would not have sold some products. If they don't want people to use their products and return during a transition period such as now, perhaps they should let us know their products' road maps. They have been behind compared with other manufacturers, removing useful features, made those butterfly keyboards for crazy thinness and have caused some long-term customers to suffer, they should feel shame on what they have done.
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On the other hand I have read many posts on this forum by people who were over the top OCD and returned products multiple times for a speck or smudge that was only visible under certain light with a magnifying glass. Their reasoning was if the paid big money for a product it should be perfect.
 
Samuelsan2001 said:
Well we have yet to see mobile vega gpus these should rival the Nvidia offerings. The vega 64 is the 6th fastest gpu on the market beaten only by the 1080 and three variants of the 1080 and the Titan.
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There's no guarantee that apple will put that class of a GPU into their MBP, Apple does have a long and illustrious histroy of using slower GPUs and since Apple doesn't consider gaming, I would believe that we may not see that. I'm no GPU expert by any stretch, but it seems the computing industry has largely standardized on nvidia

Samuelsan2001 said:
As to waiting a few months I would much rather they took their time and released a great product myself, patience is a virtue after all.
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Perhaps, but at some point people need to bite the bullet and buy a computer, and if apple isn't ready...

One big question mark for me, is the keyboard, will apple address what is shaping up as the weakest component on their laptop? If they roll out an updated butterfly keyboard am I willing to gamble almost 3k on the hopes they finally fixed the issue? I'd have more confidence if they went back to the scissors mechinism, but to be honest that move seems out of charachter with them (though I've been wrong before).
 
Ermir444 said:
I think Apple will not announce the new MB and MBP at WWDC. The noise regarding the defective keyboards has intensified significantly over the last two months with the class-action lawsuits and online petitions, In a way Apple cannot afford to release a new version of MBP with a defective keyboard when being fully aware of the issue, as they risk a large scale recall or even legal repercussions, not to mention the PR hit.

In my opinion, Apple will not release another MPB until the keybard is redesigned and fully reliable.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2018/05/31/mark-gurman-wwdc-2018-preview/

told you so...that keyboard issue is bigger than anyone previously thought...
 
bopajuice said:
On the other hand I have read many posts on this forum by people who were over the top OCD and returned products multiple times for a speck or smudge that was only visible under certain light with a magnifying glass. Their reasoning was if the paid big money for a product it should be perfect.
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Cosmetics is one of the reasons people pay more to buy Apple's products. The high cost includes the design and cosmetics so if the cosmetics side has issue, people return the product.
 
maflynn said:
There's no guarantee that apple will put that class of a GPU into their MBP, Apple does have a long and illustrious histroy of using slower GPUs and since Apple doesn't consider gaming, I would believe that we may not see that. I'm no GPU expert by any stretch, but it seems the computing industry has largely standardized on nvidia


Perhaps, but at some point people need to bite the bullet and buy a computer, and if apple isn't ready...

One big question mark for me, is the keyboard, will apple address what is shaping up as the weakest component on their laptop? If they roll out an updated butterfly keyboard am I willing to gamble almost 3k on the hopes they finally fixed the issue? I'd have more confidence if they went back to the scissors mechinism, but to be honest that move seems out of charachter with them (though I've been wrong before).
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Maybe, but not if that computer runs Windows 10. Thats a showstopper.

As for the keyboard, I kind of like the butterfly, though I really liked the old style too. I doubt Apple goes back.
 
PhoneI said:
Maybe, but not if that computer runs Windows 10. Thats a showstopper.
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Everyone is different. I use and support windows at work and I have little issues with windows. Both operating systems have pros and cons.

PhoneI said:
As for the keyboard, I kind of like the butterfly, though I really liked the old style too. I doubt Apple goes back.
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Its less about how the fell of the keyboard and more about the quality. There's no getting around that many people are dealing with failing keyboards, so much so apple is now facing 2 class action lawsuits. While the MBP has a lot going for it, I'm rather uncomforable about gambling almost 3k on a keyboard that may fail over time.
 
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maflynn said:
Configuration/customization. I have an incredible amount of flexilbity in configuring windows, even going as far easily theming if I so choose.
Support of peripherals, I can easily get drivers and applications for my printers and scanners. For macOS, Epson told me to use ImageCapture but their windows app is more robust then image capture.
DirectX - playing games (if that's your thing).
File management - I find the file explorer to be more feature rich and easier to use then the Find
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I guess I don’t use Windows in depth enough to know all of the additional features it has, but the lack of native tabs is the biggest thing that bothers me about the file explorer. That and how it previews files. Combined with quick look, for me, it makes finder much more useful.
 
It's been years now of Apple not introducing new laptop/desktop class hardware with any regularity and when they do, it's old tech and over priced. It's been time to move on for a while if you want the latest and greatest at a fair price. With that said, the MBP is still my favourite looking laptop around.
 
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