What is "Jailbreak Monte" and Why do you care...

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by maturola, Jan 24, 2011.

  1. maturola, Jan 24, 2011
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    maturola macrumors 68040

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    I haven't seen complaining about this or discussion at all for that matter (I am sure it is coming anytime now) so i thought to share a bit of info and get the ball rolling.

    Jailbreak Monte is the name given to the current way that the Dev team is Making the 4.2.1 Jailbreak untethered, this method is a way to recycle exploits by convincing the device that it's running a given firmware right up to the pwnage step (on the current version 4.2b3), then switching to the newer firmware at a later time before the whole process is completed.

    This current iteration of redsn0w require you to have 4.2b3 SHSHs and also access to the 4.2b3 IPSW, which is pushing the JB community way to close the the "piricy" issue line (and nigher I nor the developer like to be there).

    So Dev team have been working hard to port the same exploit to use 4.1 SHSHs (and IPSW) which most Jailbreaker should have (leaving just minor population out of those who got the phones with 4.2.1 stock or replace).

    @MuscleNerd actually accomplished just this last night

    Now he is on the road to port the same method into the 4.3b2 and start experimenting with it until 4.3 is release, giving us a great chance to have a JB ready at release date (or just a few days later) that include no only the GSM iPhone but the CDMA iPhone As well. (this is also why TU and Cydia started saving the 4.3b2 blobs).

    Edit: I forgot to mention that the recycling of the same exploit will allow to save the exploit that the new Greenpois0n tool from the Chronic Dev team just demoed a few days back to be save to future uses, either as 4.3 backup or maybe even later. Of course this is to the discretion of the team, which IMO is the best thing to do for the whole community.

    Edit 2: Please note that I said "giving us a great chance to have a JB ready at release date (or just a few days later)", Niether I nor any of the team are "promising" or "setting in stone" a release date for the new tool. It is just good news for now but things can change in no time with new betas and other road blocks that could be found on the way
     
  2. numanuma89 macrumors newbie

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    That would mean new users like me who just bought an iPhone with no SHSH saved to be doomed...:(
     
  3. maturola thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Not really, that just means good news for everyone else, for people in your case, you just need to wait for other options. Not even close to "doomed"....
     
  4. numanuma89 macrumors newbie

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    I know....I'm actually running on tethered through redsnow now. And, it's actually good enough. :)
     
  5. iPhone1 macrumors 65816

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    Tethered 4.2.1 jailbreak is great. Just have to put my phone into airplane mode when landing or taking off on flights. Shhh, don't tell nobody!
     
  6. crampinator macrumors 6502

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    Actually, we are doomed. Don't tell me untethered jailbreaking should be exclusive to those with older phones or people who have previously jailbroken. It's not my fault Apple gave me a new phone.
     
  7. KentuckyHouse macrumors 68020

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    And...it begins...:p
     
  8. CZK macrumors 6502a

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    Dev-Team......................................................................Thats sad.
     
  9. Maverick1337 macrumors 65816

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    The Dev-Team won't leave people with new iPhones in the dust. Then what would they work on? They are always trying to jailbreak/hack the latest and greatest. They won't stop just because they can do the same with older hashes. If the Dev-Team won't, then someone else will. Geohot might come in and save the day!
     
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    It's not dev team's fault for not giving something that you want.
     
  12. fsck-y dingo macrumors 65816

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    It's not as if the untethered jailbreak is exclusive to older phones for spite. I can't speak for them but I'm pretty sure they'd love to have there tools work for everyone and every device. They're very talented coders and hackers, not miracle workers.
     
  13. Wowzera macrumors 6502a

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    It's useless for me and my iPhone 4. Dev-team aren't as experts as people think. Hope a new hacker pop up!


    Yep, not their fault. All we need to do is wait for more experienced and talented hackers. Dev-team are stuck into their "recycling" methods.
     
  14. Scott90, Jan 24, 2011
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    I've read about it here and there (mainly MuscleNerd's twitter), but what exactly is that piracy issue? Using a firmware version that's not available for download on the Apple servers?

    Btw, when I go into Cydia, it doesn't tell me the 4.3b2 blobs are saved. Anything I can do to make sure it does save it?
     
  15. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Use the latest version of tinyumbrella.
     
  16. Maverick1337 macrumors 65816

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    @Scott90

    Download latest version of tinyumbrella. Have your phone plugged in and click save all SHSHs and it will save any that it can. It will also show that it has been successfully completed. Saved SHSHs won't show up in Cydia sometimes between "4-8weeks" Sauriks words not mine. As long as Tinyumbrella has it you're golden :)
     
  17. HPLouis macrumors regular

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    Hi Maverick,
    I apologize for the threadjack but did you save your 1.59 BB with TinyUmbrella?
     
  18. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Exactly.
     
  19. Maverick1337 macrumors 65816

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    It's a trick only available to iPhone 4 users. Download the 4.2.1 IPSW for the iPhone for, then plug your phone in and shift/command + click on UPGRADE (not restore) in iTunes and select the 4.2.1 IPSW. iTunes will run through the motions and almost at the end you'll get an Erro (1013) which is good. It just means that you're baseband is staying at 1.59.00. From here you're iPhone will be put into recovery mode. Once this happens, open up tinyumbrella and select your device and click "Kick out of Recovery" and once you click that you're phone will be upgraded to 4.2.1 with the 1.59.00 baseband. CAUTION *** iPhone 4 only and you have to UPGRADE.
     
  20. HPLouis macrumors regular

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    Thank you,
    Henry
     
  21. Rajani Isa macrumors 65816

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    If you don't like their methods, go find your own exploit and make a jailbreak with it.

    If they can, the recycling makes sense - that way it's less likely the other exploit will be patched before it can be turned into a jailbreak for the next version, etc.
    And not the Dev Team's fault Apple doesn't publish guides to "HERE"S AN EXPLOIT YOU CAN JAILBREAK WITH!" either.
     
  22. Wowzera macrumors 6502a

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    I have nothing against dev-team but as they don't bring anything new to the scene, but recycling, we all would like to see new hackers to give us an untethered jb.
    What about everyone that defends dev-team says: "make yourself a jailbreak!" :D
     
  23. chiefpavvy macrumors 6502a

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    Yep.

    I gather it has to do with the fact that on iPhone 4 Apple uses separate SHSH signatures for the firmware AND the baseband, rather than bundling them together as on the other models. Wish this trick worked for 3GS :(
     
  24. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Yes, that's basicly what it is.
    It uses different and more complicated shsh's for the baseband upgrade and you can also use those to downgrade if you time it right while Apple still signs the old firmware version. Only for iphone 4's though.
     
  25. neko girl macrumors 6502a

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    Don't worry so much! Tethered jailbreak isn't as bad as it sounds and it's really easy to boot your device if you reboot.
     

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