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Getting the firmware from a torrent won't make Apple lose any money. Different from other software providers Apple does not care that much about piracy, you can compare a Windows program vs OS X or iOs program, you'll see that windows' invest a lot more in security than apple side.
 
Getting the firmware from a torrent won't make Apple lose any money. Different from other software providers Apple does not care that much about piracy, you can compare a Windows program vs OS X or iOs program, you'll see that windows' invest a lot more in security than apple side.

Its not about making Apple losing money. Its their code.

You pay or you dont get it.

Thats the law and they have to protect their copyrighted work.

You can't argue this.
 
Its called an opinion. And my opinion is that no one on earth works for free for years only by good will. There is something under that and its called money. Do i need a proof or arguments when i say that my fav. Color is blue?
Actually, what you said about the dev team originally wasn't an opinion, it was stated as a fact.
I like what dev team are doing and all. I just can't stand all the lies about their ''free'' work and that being the reason why they can't deliver.

No where did you say anything to indicate that was an opinion.

Before you call "It's my opinion" defesne, please learn to properly state something as an opinion.
 
Anyway - back to the main topic.

Just to clarify - as an owner of a recently purchased (week or two) iPhone 4, will the Monte work for me at all if the 4.3 version gets done, or I am I out of luck lacking pre-4.2.1 SHSHs?
 
Anyway - back to the main topic.

Just to clarify - as an owner of a recently purchased (week or two) iPhone 4, will the Monte work for me at all if the 4.3 version gets done, or I am I out of luck lacking pre-4.2.1 SHSHs?

At the moment you are out of luck and stuck with a tethered JB.
Down the road noone knows what will be released.
 
Ok, lets play on words. I'm not attacking devs, i am saying that Monte require piracy ( free vs 99$) and MN should stop putting effort into that.

According to me, 90-99% of people are pirating it.

Betas are everywhere on torrents and a lot of people are downloading them.

''Why pay 99$ when you can have it for free in less than 5min ?'' A lot of people are thinking that way.




You think in reverse mode.

It should looks like:

Pirate it, this way no need to pay 99 $ ( or even 1$).


Ps: I am on 4.1 on all my idevices. Not saying that i think that way, i say that a HUGE majority of people is thinking that way ( No matter what they say on forums to look good)

I am really tied of your none sense and all what you keep saying about developers, Monte DO NOT required pirating, it is not a requirement and again, your 90 - 99% number you got it from the button of your shoe (just because i don't want to say where you really got it from) and even if the number is 90% that is NOT everyone, se please be respectful of developers.
 
I am really tied of your none sense and all what you keep saying about developers, Monte DO NOT required pirating, it is not a requirement and again, your 90 - 99% number you got it from the button of your shoe (just because i don't want to say where you really got it from) and even if the number is 90% that is NOT everyone, se please be respectful of developers.

he said
"according to me"
just drop it.
 
he said
"according to me"
just drop it.


Maturola, you get the idea. Stop playing on words you are obviously not good at it.

I can't drop it, I find it really offensive, nobody with a brain can generalized like that. Just because he said "according to me" he cannot state that the sun is green or that the earth doesn't move. So as he is expressing his moronic statement I am expressing my discomfort with his generalization.
 
I can't drop it, I find it really offensive, nobody with a brain can generalized like that. Just because he said "according to me" he cannot state that the sun is green or that the earth doesn't move. So as he is expressing his moronic statement I am expressing my discomfort with his generalization.

Im not stating that the sun is green or something ridicule..... Just that i think that there is a HUGE majority of People pirating this ipsw because they think it should be free and not 99$. Not like it wasnt everywhere on torrents and not massively Hosted.This ipsw is very very accessible and is currently massively pirated because of the jb monte. Now tell me thats not true because you and 2-3 of your friends did pay the 99$ plus you guys are devs, not users that only want the 4.2b3 for a single and unIque reason and use.
 
Im not stating that the sun is green or something ridicule..... Just that i think that there is a HUGE majority of People pirating this ipsw because they think it should be free and not 99$. Not like it wasnt everywhere on torrents and not massively Hosted.This ipsw is very very accessible and is currently massively pirated because of the jb monte. Now tell me thats not true because you and 2-3 of your friends did pay the 99$ plus you guys are devs, not users that only want the 4.2b3 for a single and unIque reason and use.

You see, and you k=just keep doing it, ... 2 or 3 ....really???? Really??? 2 or 3... WOW, I am done with you, go back to your notepad drawing little hearts with GeoHots name inside.
 
You see, and you k=just keep doing it, ... 2 or 3 ....really???? Really??? 2 or 3... WOW, I am done with you, go back to your notepad drawing little hearts with GeoHots name inside.

Your out of argument brah? Replace 2-3 by a couple if this can make you feel better. This change nothing to my argumentation and i am totally ok with it !!! Unless you have an infinite ammount of friends i cant be wrong
 
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With all due respect, guys, dont be too hard on CZK.
Hardly anything CZK posts is helpful or makes sense to anyone at all.

https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=22583184

In fact most if it just "Useless topic is useless.", "This topic is useless", "/topic", "This is stupid. The end".

Ironically, he goes to the iPhone Accessories sub fora often and replies to any sort of White iPhone Conversion Thread with "Enjoy voiding your waranty [sic] for $200" while hanging out on the Hacks sub forum extolling the virtues of jailbreaking and unlocking (both of which void your "waranty" for free...) :confused:

In this thread, for example, hes huge on advocating the legal side of pirating IPSWs and how it is illegal to pirate IPSWs but hes ALL over Geohot's "legal" right to change Sony's code https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1078519/
 
I think it's better than your own attempt at not answering :

Answer was too obvious, wasnt dodging... Stop bringning useless points. Will not comment on the post above this one, the guy is just plain d***
 
...Will not comment on the post above this one, the guy is just plain d***

You just did, mate. :D

In all seriousness, I was trying to help you CZK. Not everyone is smart enough to understand your flip-flopping logic and your skewed sense of legality. Pirating an IPSW is illegal, but reverse engineering Sony's firmware code is totally okay with you...

Its just weird because they're both "illegal" under the same body of Intellectual Property Law.

Go on, ask me how I know this.
 
Wow..... Im out of this topic

Alright, now that he's out of the topic. Let's all bring it back on track, shall we?

Maturola, great write up on explaining and demystifying JB Monte. Thanks for the updates.
Unfortunately, I had to bring my phone back to the genius bar for an exchange and I lost all my hashes. :( I think its probably reasonable to say that, 4.2.1 untethered is a low priority for them and I think theyre focusing more on 4.3
 
Maturola, great write up on explaining and demystifying JB Monte. Thanks for the updates.
Unfortunately, I had to bring my phone back to the genius bar for an exchange and I lost all my hashes. :( I think its probably reasonable to say that, 4.2.1 untethered is a low priority for them and I think theyre focusing more on 4.3

Yeah, sorry to hear that, you are on the population currently not benefice at all by all this news, but with all the work at least an untethered version should be at your disposal in the time being. I still think that Monte is one of the coolest thing we had on the community since the original JB apps. (I remember customized, the grandfather of Winterboard, it was so cool :cool:)
 
Yeah, sorry to hear that, you are on the population currently not benefice at all by all this news, but with all the work at least an untethered version should be at your disposal in the time being. I still think that Monte is one of the coolest thing we had on the community since the original JB apps. (I remember customized, the grandfather of Winterboard, it was so cool :cool:)

I hope I get something untethered. Working with a tethered phone is terrible. Once I had an issue with MobileSubstrate on my phone and it required a restart and my phone was effectively "stranded" while I was on the road.

The bad part is, if they work on an untether that requires 4.1 hashes, I'm done for. The current monte requires 4.2b3 and although I do have access to the IPSW (Dev Program), I cant really use it because I dont have the hashes.

I feel like I'm going to be running stock for a long time, which is terrible because I've paid out for MyWi, My3G, and BiteSMS. :(
 
You just did, mate. :D

In all seriousness, I was trying to help you CZK. Not everyone is smart enough to understand your flip-flopping logic and your skewed sense of legality. Pirating an IPSW is illegal, but reverse engineering Sony's firmware code is totally okay with you...

Its just weird because they're both "illegal" under the same body of Intellectual Property Law.

Go on, ask me how I know this.

It's legal because it's GeoHotz! :D
I am glad that I am not the only one that thinks CZK is an idiot.
 
Don't worry so much! Tethered jailbreak isn't as bad as it sounds and it's really easy to boot your device if you reboot.

I have to agree. I've been using tethered jailbreak for about two weeks now. It's honestly not that bad. I just have to make sure my battery stays charged, and be a little careful when installing stuff in Cydia.

Only time it was bad was when QuickReply for SMS decided to go rogue, and it caused me to have to reboot. However, I was a short walk away from my laptop.
 
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