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I love “Murder By Death”! So many quotable lines (“Say your goddam pronouns!”) (“I’ll get it later ma’am, when I park the car.”) (“I hope he knows how to stop that thing.”) 😄😄😄

This movie is hysterical...especially vs. the anemic movie it’s most often compared to, “Clue”.
 
I love “Murder By Death”! So many quotable lines (“Say your goddam pronouns!”) (“I’ll get it later ma’am, when I park the car.”) (“I hope he knows how to stop that thing.”) 😄😄😄

This movie is hysterical...especially vs. the anemic movie it’s most often compared to, “Clue”.

As I kid I used to watch Murder by Death almost every week. It's just incredible - and it's even more incredible knowing that thanks to youtube the actual ending that somewhat solves the mystery makes the whole thing even funnier. My kids also like it.

However, I also love Clue. It's just a different movie, from a different era, with a different idea in mind. MBD was making fun of dime novels, Clue is just "re-enacting" a boardgame in a fun way. Other than a murder mystery dinner to solve, there isn't much in common (and I don't think that any male teenager can forget about Yvette...).
 
Watched "My Spy" last night on Amazon. This was a delightful movie and thoroughly enjoyable. I really recommend it! I love Bautista and he has never failed to amuse me in anything he's done. I love that he just doesn't take himself and his roles too seriously. This was a good one! And Chloe Coleman was great, too. She is also in the Amazon series "Upload". This kid has a good future in cinema!

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My criteria for sequels is pretty high. Aside from the usual qualities such as good acting:
  • It should have several scenes which recall the original without directly copying it.
  • It should be a legitimate continuation of the story, not just a money grab.
  • Its continuity with the original should be true. (Don't say one thing in one movie and something else in the sequel.)
  • Most of all, it should feel right. Cinematography, acting, story, music, etc. should be very much in the style of the original.
And damn if "Doctor Sleep" doesn't meet all of those.


Holy **** that's a scary movie. 😨

All the things they did right: they didn't turn Danny Torrance into a different kind of person, they had pretty good lookalike actors for Jack and Wendy and especially Dick Halloran, who sounded unbelievably like Scatman Crothers. The "Shine" was still the thrust of the story and it eventually took us back to the Overlook. Rose the Hat was genuinely creepy. And the scene in Dr. John's office is a beautiful callback to Stuart Ullman's office from "The Shining"; even Bruce Greenwood's gestures are similar to Ullman's. And the scene where "Baseball Boy" is murdered is disturbing--deeply so, hearing him crying and pleading for his life--without being gratuitously gory.

Like the original, we hear heartbeat sounds throughout the film, and when see the overhead driving shots they are set to "The Shining" theme. The cherry on top is the end credits, once again played to "Midnight, the Stars and You", with wind howling long after the song is over.

Oh--and they successfully walked the fine line between honoring the Stanley Kubrick version of the story, and keeping Stephen King happy.

Excellent job!


The space pirates thing puzzled me until Roy talks about bringing the same problems we have on Earth with us out into the universe. The monkey part...yeah, I agree with you there.
Where did you watch this? I looked it up on Prime and only see it to buy...
 
As I kid I used to watch Murder by Death almost every week. It's just incredible - and it's even more incredible knowing that thanks to youtube the actual ending that somewhat solves the mystery makes the whole thing even funnier. My kids also like it.

However, I also love Clue. It's just a different movie, from a different era, with a different idea in mind. MBD was making fun of dime novels, Clue is just "re-enacting" a boardgame in a fun way. Other than a murder mystery dinner to solve, there isn't much in common (and I don't think that any male teenager can forget about Yvette...).
Omigod, Yvette... 😍

Yes, "Murder by Death" has barely aged at all. Even Peter Sellers' very politically incorrect depiction of Sidney Wang isn't offensive, since it's a parody of an offensive stereotype. And the lines are so fast and funny I find myself rewatching it more often than most movies.

I've actually seen online reviewers complain that the ending makes no damn sense. Of course! That's the point! Twain himself says lots of mystery endings are nonsensical, so this one is the mother of all incomprehensible, illogical endings.

Although I do remember seeing this for the first time in the theater and my immediate reaction being a bemused "What the hell?!?!?" 😄
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Where did you watch this? I looked it up on Prime and only see it to buy...
HBO.
 
Omigod, Yvette... 😍

Yep...

Yes, "Murder by Death" has barely aged at all. Even Peter Sellers' very politically incorrect depiction of Sidney Wang isn't offensive, since it's a parody of an offensive stereotype. And the lines are so fast and funny I find myself rewatching it more often than most movies.

I don't think that Sellers would be able to play the part now, but since the movie was made back then, we shouldn't complain much. The movie truly stereotypes everything, from the Brit (Niven), to the French (Coco), to the Asian (Sellers), and the American (Falk) as they were stereotyped in older dime novels.

I've actually seen online reviewers complain that the ending makes no damn sense. Of course! That's the point! Twain himself says lots of mystery endings are nonsensical, so this one is the mother of all incomprehensible, illogical endings.

Although I do remember seeing this for the first time in the theater and my immediate reaction being a bemused "What the hell?!?!?" 😄
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have you seen the other ending that was filmed but never shown because the stars in the movie were pissed off that it took their "stardom" away?
 
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Yep...



I don't think that Sellers would be able to play the part now, but since the movie was made back then, we shouldn't complain much. The movie truly stereotypes everything, from the Brit (Niven), to the French* (Coco), to the Asian (Sellers), and the American (Falk) as they were stereotyped in older dime novels.

I've actually seen online reviewers complain that the ending makes no damn sense. Of course! That's the point! Twain himself says lots of mystery endings are nonsensical, so this one is the mother of all incomprehensible, illogical endings.**

Although I do remember seeing this for the first time in the theater and my immediate reaction being a bemused "What the hell?!?!?" 😄
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have you seen the other ending that was filmed but never shown because the stars in the movie were pissed off that it took their "stardom" away?


* Belgian...

** At one point when they are trying to solve the case they go around complaining about each others character's writing faux paux

And is the other ending on youtube?
 
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Omigod, Yvette... 😍

Yes, "Murder by Death" has barely aged at all. Even Peter Sellers' very politically incorrect depiction of Sidney Wang isn't offensive, since it's a parody of an offensive stereotype. And the lines are so fast and funny I find myself rewatching it more often than most movies.

I've actually seen online reviewers complain that the ending makes no damn sense. Of course! That's the point! Twain himself says lots of mystery endings are nonsensical, so this one is the mother of all incomprehensible, illogical endings.

Although I do remember seeing this for the first time in the theater and my immediate reaction being a bemused "What the hell?!?!?" 😄
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HBO.
Was this a HBO movie or maybe HBO has exclusive streaming rights for a while? Found it on Amazon and Vudu for purchase only $20.
 
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Wait a minute, we’re getting confused here. 😄 I believe that Huntn was asking where I saw “Doctor Sleep” (back in post #15,334). I DVRed it on HBO and watched it the next day. Cable subscribers can also stream it on HBO Go.

Edit: And I see HBO is going to do away with HBO Go soon. Like, in a few weeks.

“Murder By Death” I have on Blu-Ray.
 
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I was asking about Doctor Sleep, sorry for the confusion.
Wait a minute, we’re getting confused here. 😄 I believe that Huntn was asking where I saw “Doctor Sleep” (back in post #15,334). I DVRed it on HBO and watched it the next day. Cable subscribers can also stream it on HBO Go.
“Murder By Death” I have on Blu-Ray.

All sorted now. 👍🏻
 
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I kind of dug on Dr. Sleep. I haven't read the novel, but I'm very familiar with The Shining (the novel and Kubrick movie), I'm a bit of a Kubrick fanatic, and I totally get what Flanagan, was trying to do (I'm a huge fan of his adaptation of Haunting of Hill House and Gerald's Game).

I kind of agree with this article, it was easy to blow off, the BO response was mediocre, but in review, it's pretty damn good (rewatching it this week):

 
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I think “Doctor Sleep” was done in at the box office—as was nearly every other film that month—by the juggernaut that was “Joker”.

Incidentally, I’ve seen two of Flanagan’s earlier films: “Absentia”, which I think was the movie that showed his promise; and “Oculus”, which proved what he could do with a studio sized budget.

Both good horror films. “Absentia” is free with Amazon Prime.
 
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