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fayans said:
I do all those minus defragging. What application do you use to defrag? idefrag?

Actually, I should clarify - when i I was saying "everyone should do it", I was referring to general maintenance tasks, not defragging specifically. So what you're doing then is great, and I wouldn't worry. Although I defrag, it's just more of my own choice, and in fact, I would argue it isn't necessary on a Mac. All the other things I mentioned above are important, but defragging isn't a necessity, let me clarify.

Hard disk capacity is generally much greater now than a few years ago. With more free space available, the file system doesn't need to fill up every "nook and cranny." HFS Plus avoids reusing space from deleted files as much as possible, to avoid prematurely filling small areas of recently-freed space.

In general, fragmentation is often caused by continually appending data to existing files, especially with resource forks. But now, with faster hard drives and better caching, as well as the new application packaging format, many applications simply rewrite the entire file each time. Panther can also automatically defragment such slow-growing files. Aggressive read-ahead and write-behind caching means that minor fragmentation has less effect on perceived system performance.

For these reasons, there is little benefit to defragging. :cool:
 
dubbz said:
What do you mean? I know plenty of Windows users that just drag the Application directory into the trash (or Recycle Bin). ;)


...I hate it when they do that, as I'm usually the one who has to clean up after them :rolleyes:

Yeah, me too - that's the problem. ;) :)
 
~Shard~ said:
It's a good idea to do maintenance on your Mac, whether it be defragging, cleaning the cache, repairing permissions, etc., to keep it running in top form. It actually has little to do with the size of your files.
Maintenance is a good idea and the other tasks you mention are regardless of file size, but defragging does have to do with file size.

OS X auto-defrags files less than 20 MB in size as they are accessed. Therefore, if you rarely use large files your disk will not become that fragmented and if it does it will take quite a while to happen. Files under 20 MB that you don't access may be fragmented too but you won't get a performance hit until you need to access that file at which point OS X will move it and clear up the fragmented space.

I agree you should still defrag from time to time but users that do not work with large files won't see a bad performance hit for quite a while if they are not defragging.

Edit: Shard, you beat me too it. ;)

On Topic, software I miss on the Mac: Trillian, Google Earth. Sorry, not terribly familiar with PS.
 
Zone.com

Had to leave all my zone.com online friends behind when I switched to Mac.
 
feakbeak said:
Maintenance is a good idea and the other tasks you mention are regardless of file size, but defragging does have to do with file size.

OS X auto-defrags files less than 20 MB in size as they are accessed. Therefore, if you rarely use large files your disk will not become that fragmented and if it does it will take quite a while to happen. Files under 20 MB that you don't access may be fragmented too but you won't get a performance hit until you need to access that file at which point OS X will move it and clear up the fragmented space.

I agree you should still defrag from time to time but users that do not work with large files won't see a bad performance hit for quite a while if they are not defragging.

Edit: Shard, you beat me too it. ;)

No worries, that's why I clarified things. And thanks for the supporting information as well. :) :cool:
 
dubbz said:
What do you mean? I know plenty of Windows users that just drag the Application directory into the trash (or Recycle Bin). ;)


...I hate it when they do that, as I'm usually the one who has to clean up after them :rolleyes:

Whats worse is when they move desktop/start menu shortcuts to the recycle bin thinking that deleted the program
 
yg17 said:
Whats worse is when they move desktop/start menu shortcuts to the recycle bin thinking that deleted the program

It's not without reason that later (or some, at least) Windows versions actually warn about this if you delete a file from desktop.

Many users doesn't understand that it's just a shortcut, and not the program itself. The concept of shorcuts (and links in general) can be hard to grasp for some. I'm not sure if it has any real life equal...
 
I miss these:

Agent, Feurio, EAC, DVD Decrypter, Nero, Day Timer Address Book, Adobe Audition, Power Desk, CD-Wav, and several others.
 
happycamper said:
Agent, Feurio, EAC, DVD Decrypter, Nero, Day Timer Address Book, Adobe Audition, Power Desk, CD-Wav, and several others.

I don't know what all of those do, but what is it about DVD Decrypter that you miss? I used to use it on the PC too, but MacTheRipper works just great for me on the Mac. I also haven't missed Nero at all. Toast makes a fine replacement (for me).
 
mduser63 said:
I don't know what all of those do, but what is it about DVD Decrypter that you miss? I used to use it on the PC too, but MacTheRipper works just great for me on the Mac. I also haven't missed Nero at all. Toast makes a fine replacement (for me).

Agent is a GOOD newsreader, Feurio is a great program for burning audio tracs, EAC enables one to rip exact, error-free wav files, DVD Decrypter rips DVDs to ISO files, Nero does quite a few things but I only use it for a few video chores, Day Timer Address Book is a discontinued address book which has lots of featurs, Adobe Audition is paid for, Power Desk is a GREAT hard disk manager that makes the "Finder" seem like you're using a rock and piece of string to organize files, CD-Wav splits wav files into sector-boundary-free tracks easily.
 
radiantmark said:
Soundtrack pro is a good alternative to adobe audition.
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/soundtrackpro/
Then there's always logic express/pro.
http://www.apple.com/logicpro/

As far as money management software, iBank2 is looking to be amazing (current iBank user). I'm just waiting for it to go out of beta.
http://www.iggsoftware.com/ibank/


Yeah, but Audition's paid for and something equivalent is gonna cost a thousand bucks thanks to the Mac pricing scheme.
 
happycamper said:
Yeah, but Audition's paid for and something equivalent is gonna cost a thousand bucks thanks to the Mac pricing scheme.

My post in this thread was about a lack of a good replacement for Adobe Audition. Soundtrack Pro is $299, or $149 EDU price (which I qualify for). I have Soundtrack (not Pro) and it's not a good alternative to Adobe Audition, so I had assumed Soundtrack Pro wouldn't be either. I just went and watched the Quick Tours of Soundtrack Pro on apple.com, and I have to say, it looks quite good. The waveform editor looks very powerful, and it's specifically geared toward audio production for video work, which is what I do. That upgrade to Final Cut Suite is looking better and better...
 
I really miss the blue screen of death. I used to make a game out of it, trying to guess whether it would be there waiting for me when I woke up, got home, etc. Sometimes after a hard day, I would come home and see my old friend BSOD waiting for me, and I knew that all was right in the world.
 
I miss being able to use my cheap webcam on MSN messenger, although if I really feel like chatting I can always just turn on my other computer. Also, I used to sign on to AOL once in a blue moon to check out the videos and music files that are exclusive to members. AOL for Mac hasn't been updated in forever, and it doesn't even work on Tiger.

As far as Photoshop goes, I've been able to use all my brushes, actions, etc. on Mac. The program is pretty much the same on both platforms, you shouldn't have a problem with it.
 
MS Enterprise manager for managing MS SQL Server. Ain't see anything similar that is usable for my Mac. Stops me from switching 100% as I need it all the time.

Cheers

Del
 
Investing,charting, and trading apps!!!

So miss TCNET2005, Metastock, and Wealthlab pro.

Still have 2 Wintell boxes around to support these apps.
 
mduser63 said:
My post in this thread was about a lack of a good replacement for Adobe Audition. Soundtrack Pro is $299, or $149 EDU price (which I qualify for). I have Soundtrack (not Pro) and it's not a good alternative to Adobe Audition, so I had assumed Soundtrack Pro wouldn't be either. I just went and watched the Quick Tours of Soundtrack Pro on apple.com, and I have to say, it looks quite good. The waveform editor looks very powerful, and it's specifically geared toward audio production for video work, which is what I do. That upgrade to Final Cut Suite is looking better and better...

Yea Soundtrack Pro is a pretty big update to the original Soundtrack. Lots of new features.
 
Texas04 said:
Switched a few months ago... only thing i have not been able to find is a DVD Shrink Utility... i have MactheRipper for my DVD's that I backup, but nothing to shrink them.
Try DVD2OneX.

Works great.

Sushi
 
mduser63 said:
My post in this thread was about a lack of a good replacement for Adobe Audition. Soundtrack Pro is $299, or $149 EDU price (which I qualify for). I have Soundtrack (not Pro) and it's not a good alternative to Adobe Audition, so I had assumed Soundtrack Pro wouldn't be either. I just went and watched the Quick Tours of Soundtrack Pro on apple.com, and I have to say, it looks quite good. The waveform editor looks very powerful, and it's specifically geared toward audio production for video work, which is what I do. That upgrade to Final Cut Suite is looking better and better...

I'll look into that soundtrack pro stuff. I would really, really like to find a good newsreader though. Damn, I wish agent was osx compatible... Oh, and I with there was a decent backspace button of course.

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12" 1.5 GHz Superdrive PowerPC G4 w/ 1.25 GB DDR SDRAM
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe 2.8GHz Intel w/2 GB DDR memory
Asus P4P800 Deluxe 2.8 GHz Intel w/2 GB DDR memory
Asus P4P3-X 2.4 GHz Intel w/1 GB DDR memory

Never had a blue screen w/ XP Pro (but can't take any of the Asus machines to the coffee shop either)
 
happycamper said:
I'll look into that soundtrack pro stuff. I would really, really like to find a good newsreader though. Damn, I wish agent was osx compatible... Oh, and I with there was a decent backspace button of course.

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12" 1.5 GHz Superdrive PowerPC G4 w/ 1.25 GB DDR SDRAM
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe 2.8GHz Intel w/2 GB DDR memory
Asus P4P800 Deluxe 2.8 GHz Intel w/2 GB DDR memory
Asus P4P3-X 2.4 GHz Intel w/1 GB DDR memory

Never had a blue screen w/ XP Pro (but can't take any of the Asus machines to the coffee shop either)

What kind of newsreader?

For RSS newsreader, try Netnewswire:
http://ranchero.com/netnewswire/

For Binary/Usenet, use:
http://www.panic.com/unison/
Best usenet reader ever made on any platform, IMO. :)
 
mduser63 said:
I don't know what all of those do, but what is it about DVD Decrypter that you miss? I used to use it on the PC too, but MacTheRipper works just great for me on the Mac. I also haven't missed Nero at all. Toast makes a fine replacement (for me).
DVD decrypter is special because it'll rip dvds regardless of their region. I had mactheripper on my 1.67ghz PB, but it wouldn't rip my region 4 discs, so I had to keep using dvd decrypter on my PC.
 
I still mainly use my PC desktop but when I want to relax on the couch and watch football I like my ibook and often with I had a few key apps.


I miss all my photoshop plugins. I miss ThumbsPlus to view my photos (I hate iphoto with a passion) and Newsbin for binary downloads (nothing on mac even comes close IMO.. or even decent) and I too wish Agent were mac compatable.
 
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